Bonn1997 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

3G4G wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

3G4G wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

3G4G wrote:

“Just we’ve got to hold each other accountable, come next year,’’

I think you missed the single most important line of what Shump said. This is also why I am not as freaked out as the rest of this messageboard. Barges take a long time to turnaround. It wasn't that long ago everyone was getting in the truck and eating McDonald's before tipoff

Accountability started as soon as we made the trade for Melo 2 1/2yrs ago...IMO it's been a long time already.

I think when it comes to Shump saying it, he truly means holding players(Smith/J.R./Tyson/Felton) responsible, because remember how the vets all broke Lin down after half a season and felt he didn't measure up? Yet we're supposed to give this team a 4th yr to figure out what accountability is?

Meanwhile when 8-11yr vet players like Melo/Tyson/Felton say it's about accountability....IT'S THE BORROWING OF TIME...schtik!!!

that's fair but 2.5 years ago no one would have said losing in the 2nd round was a failure either

I would have because we didn't give away our young assets and future to get bounced in the 2nd round and to be honest we didn't look good in the playoffs throughout.

I'd wager to say the team that played 18-6 ball looked far better than the team we saw in the Playoffs.

(1) we didn't look good in the playoffs
(2) you would have considered a 2nd round exit 2 years ago a failure? Really?

In 2010 when we had tons of cap space, if I were told our peak over the next 3 years was a 2nd round exit, I'd have considered that a huge failure.

I would think most fans would strongly reconsider making that trade if this is where we would arrive foreknown knowledge. Especially as we embark on re-gutting half the roster at a minimum....because remember it was mostly everyone else's fault but Melo's.

3G4G wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

3G4G wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

3G4G wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

3G4G wrote:

“Just we’ve got to hold each other accountable, come next year,’’

I think you missed the single most important line of what Shump said. This is also why I am not as freaked out as the rest of this messageboard. Barges take a long time to turnaround. It wasn't that long ago everyone was getting in the truck and eating McDonald's before tipoff

Accountability started as soon as we made the trade for Melo 2 1/2yrs ago...IMO it's been a long time already.

I think when it comes to Shump saying it, he truly means holding players(Smith/J.R./Tyson/Felton) responsible, because remember how the vets all broke Lin down after half a season and felt he didn't measure up? Yet we're supposed to give this team a 4th yr to figure out what accountability is?

Meanwhile when 8-11yr vet players like Melo/Tyson/Felton say it's about accountability....IT'S THE BORROWING OF TIME...schtik!!!

that's fair but 2.5 years ago no one would have said losing in the 2nd round was a failure either

I would have because we didn't give away our young assets and future to get bounced in the 2nd round and to be honest we didn't look good in the playoffs throughout.

I'd wager to say the team that played 18-6 ball looked far better than the team we saw in the Playoffs.

(1) we didn't look good in the playoffs
(2) you would have considered a 2nd round exit 2 years ago a failure? Really?

In 2010 when we had tons of cap space, if I were told our peak over the next 3 years was a 2nd round exit, I'd have considered that a huge failure.

I would think most fans would strongly reconsider making that trade if this is where would arrive foreknown knowledge. Especially as we embark on re-gutting half the roster at a minimum....because remember it was mostly everyone else's fault but Melo's.

it's never melo's fault not even when he pushed his way here instead of waiting for free agency, not even when he admits not playing that hard for d'antoni, and when he doesn't like playing with jeremy lin, and not even when the old and broken down squad he has been forced to play because of his own decision to go for money first and team second. nope he did his job and his teammates didn't step up.

ten years of excuses.