Solace wrote:Btw, Charles Barkley said something really weird on Mike Lupica today. He said Chandler is 6'8" which is why he got pushed around by Hibbert. Wha?? I don't know wtf kind of blind goggles he's wearing, but Tyson Chandler is a legit 7'1", tard.

Hes likes to break cahones. Seriously Tyson owes the Knicks and its fans a very HARD off-season. Lets be fair--hes been non exsistant when it counts. He needs to come back at 260 with much more strength in his legs combined with a post move and new faith in taking a 12-14 foot jumpshot. I hope he can listen to constructive criticism. He doesnt sck--he needs to gets stronger and come back with some simple offensive skill he never developed.

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Working on offensive moves would be great. Don't really care if he adds the muscle. It's very hard to add that much muscle in just a few months without adding a lot of fat too

Not true

and forget steroids or hgh or whatever

eat triple intake on daily protein--mainly leak fish and chicken I mean like eating 6 big plates a day train with heavier weights low reps with some higher rep intervals and a guy like Tyson could put on 20 pounds of muscle in 5 months while keeping his body fat in a solid range where it is now.

I still would move him in the right trade with no qualms

ChuckBuck wrote:Phucking Tyson Chandler...still no accountability:

GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- Tyson Chandler struggled on defense in the Pacers series. But he had no trouble defending himself Monday in the face of questions about his performance.

When asked if he felt he let his team down in the series against Indiana, Chandler said, "No, no. You cant let the team down if you give them 100 percent. I gave my teammates everything I had and Im fine with that."

A large segment of the Knicks' fanbase may disagree with Chandler there. The Knicks' center was thoroughly outplayed by Roy Hibbert over six games.

For the series, Chandler averaged 6.2 points, 6 rebounds and 1.7 blocks in 29 minutes per game.

Hibbert averaged 13.3 points, 10.3 rebounds and 3.2 blocks, including a 21-point, 12 rebound performance in Game 6.

Chandler admitted Monday that he wasn't 100 percent healthy during the series. He suffered back, wrist and knee injuries in Game 5. He also struggled with his conditioning and timing early in the playoffs after missing 16 of the Knicks' final 20 regular-season games due to a neck injury.

"I wasnt where I wanted to be. I wish I could have got a couple games in before the playoffs started," said Chandler, the center on the NBA's first team All-Defense. "I feel like I never really got in a rhythm. But thats just kind of how it went. I tried to give the team everything I had. I gave them 100 percent, gave them what I had. Unfortunately, it wasnt enough."

Chandler said his neck wasn't an issue after the Celtics series. But his timing just wasn't there after the long layoff. He was missing "the rhythm you get in with (teammates) being used to me being on the court, used to me, feeding me in certain positions, defensive rotations, all of that."

Chandler doesn't anticipate needing surgery to heal his injuries. He also hopes to work on his offense in the offseason.

"I definitely want to be more involved, more consistent on the offensive end," he said.

Phucking guy doesn't own up to shyt. Come on man, rhythm is one thing, but effort should always be there.

Sick of this guy. Always ready to point the figure, but never at himself...

Exactly. No accountability at all. ZERO.

He wanted to be more involved in the offense but then on the other end against Hibbert, West etc., it was all "I gave 100%, everything I had," neck injury this, didn't have enough time to prepare when he made it back that, the flu this, strep throat that...The whole "I wanted the ball more" stuff is the biggest laugh riot going....You wanted the ball more, buddy? Go crash the offensive glass and go get the damn ball and power it back up! Nah, the most you'll ever get out of this guy is one of his famous slap-outs which I can't stand -- it's got 'here, someone else deal with it' written all over it. Shouldn't even get credit for a rebound on that if you ask me. You take all his slap outs away from him, he's nothing more than a 5 rebound/game 7'1" C with zero offensive game....Argues every single foul call against him too which drives me absolutely nuts---dude would have zero credibility with me if I were an NBA official.

Good Berman piece this morning -- Jimmy Boeheim definitely has the right take on matters. I agree with him on everything here:

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/boeheim_rips_melo_teammates_9mV28aYvwiU7CAczkiSZoL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Knicks

Finestrg wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Phucking Tyson Chandler...still no accountability:

GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- Tyson Chandler struggled on defense in the Pacers series. But he had no trouble defending himself Monday in the face of questions about his performance.

When asked if he felt he let his team down in the series against Indiana, Chandler said, "No, no. You cant let the team down if you give them 100 percent. I gave my teammates everything I had and Im fine with that."

A large segment of the Knicks' fanbase may disagree with Chandler there. The Knicks' center was thoroughly outplayed by Roy Hibbert over six games.

For the series, Chandler averaged 6.2 points, 6 rebounds and 1.7 blocks in 29 minutes per game.

Hibbert averaged 13.3 points, 10.3 rebounds and 3.2 blocks, including a 21-point, 12 rebound performance in Game 6.

Chandler admitted Monday that he wasn't 100 percent healthy during the series. He suffered back, wrist and knee injuries in Game 5. He also struggled with his conditioning and timing early in the playoffs after missing 16 of the Knicks' final 20 regular-season games due to a neck injury.

"I wasnt where I wanted to be. I wish I could have got a couple games in before the playoffs started," said Chandler, the center on the NBA's first team All-Defense. "I feel like I never really got in a rhythm. But thats just kind of how it went. I tried to give the team everything I had. I gave them 100 percent, gave them what I had. Unfortunately, it wasnt enough."

Chandler said his neck wasn't an issue after the Celtics series. But his timing just wasn't there after the long layoff. He was missing "the rhythm you get in with (teammates) being used to me being on the court, used to me, feeding me in certain positions, defensive rotations, all of that."

Chandler doesn't anticipate needing surgery to heal his injuries. He also hopes to work on his offense in the offseason.

"I definitely want to be more involved, more consistent on the offensive end," he said.

Phucking guy doesn't own up to shyt. Come on man, rhythm is one thing, but effort should always be there.

Sick of this guy. Always ready to point the figure, but never at himself...

Exactly. No accountability at all. ZERO.

He wanted to be more involved in the offense but then on the other end against Hibbert, West etc., it was all "I gave 100%, everything I had," neck injury this, didn't have enough time to prepare when he made it back that, the flu this, strep throat that...The whole "I wanted the ball more" stuff is the biggest laugh riot going....You wanted the ball more, buddy? Go crash the offensive glass and go get the damn ball and power it back up! Nah, the most you'll ever get out of this guy is one of his famous slap-outs which I can't stand -- it's got 'here, someone else deal with it' written all over it. Shouldn't even get credit for a rebound on that if you ask me. You take all his slap outs away from him, he's nothing more than a 5 rebound/game 7'1" C with zero offensive game....Argues every single foul call against him too which drives me absolutely nuts---dude would have zero credibility with me if I were an NBA official.

Good Berman piece this morning -- Jimmy Boeheim definitely has the right take on matters. I agree with him on everything here:

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/boeheim_rips_melo_teammates_9mV28aYvwiU7CAczkiSZoL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Knicks

Imagine if Tyson had to defend the likes of Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq, Mourning, etc...? Maybe the crop of NBA centers are reemerging (Gasol, Hibbert) or maybe he just really overrated?

Considering the amount of cap room he takes up and the laughable quotes above, I'll go with the latter.

sealy wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Phucking Tyson Chandler...still no accountability:

GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- Tyson Chandler struggled on defense in the Pacers series. But he had no trouble defending himself Monday in the face of questions about his performance.

When asked if he felt he let his team down in the series against Indiana, Chandler said, "No, no. You cant let the team down if you give them 100 percent. I gave my teammates everything I had and Im fine with that."

A large segment of the Knicks' fanbase may disagree with Chandler there. The Knicks' center was thoroughly outplayed by Roy Hibbert over six games.

For the series, Chandler averaged 6.2 points, 6 rebounds and 1.7 blocks in 29 minutes per game.

Hibbert averaged 13.3 points, 10.3 rebounds and 3.2 blocks, including a 21-point, 12 rebound performance in Game 6.

Chandler admitted Monday that he wasn't 100 percent healthy during the series. He suffered back, wrist and knee injuries in Game 5. He also struggled with his conditioning and timing early in the playoffs after missing 16 of the Knicks' final 20 regular-season games due to a neck injury.

"I wasnt where I wanted to be. I wish I could have got a couple games in before the playoffs started," said Chandler, the center on the NBA's first team All-Defense. "I feel like I never really got in a rhythm. But thats just kind of how it went. I tried to give the team everything I had. I gave them 100 percent, gave them what I had. Unfortunately, it wasnt enough."

Chandler said his neck wasn't an issue after the Celtics series. But his timing just wasn't there after the long layoff. He was missing "the rhythm you get in with (teammates) being used to me being on the court, used to me, feeding me in certain positions, defensive rotations, all of that."

Chandler doesn't anticipate needing surgery to heal his injuries. He also hopes to work on his offense in the offseason.

"I definitely want to be more involved, more consistent on the offensive end," he said.

Phucking guy doesn't own up to shyt. Come on man, rhythm is one thing, but effort should always be there.

Sick of this guy. Always ready to point the figure, but never at himself...

Exactly. No accountability at all. ZERO.

He wanted to be more involved in the offense but then on the other end against Hibbert, West etc., it was all "I gave 100%, everything I had," neck injury this, didn't have enough time to prepare when he made it back that, the flu this, strep throat that...The whole "I wanted the ball more" stuff is the biggest laugh riot going....You wanted the ball more, buddy? Go crash the offensive glass and go get the damn ball and power it back up! Nah, the most you'll ever get out of this guy is one of his famous slap-outs which I can't stand -- it's got 'here, someone else deal with it' written all over it. Shouldn't even get credit for a rebound on that if you ask me. You take all his slap outs away from him, he's nothing more than a 5 rebound/game 7'1" C with zero offensive game....Argues every single foul call against him too which drives me absolutely nuts---dude would have zero credibility with me if I were an NBA official.

Good Berman piece this morning -- Jimmy Boeheim definitely has the right take on matters. I agree with him on everything here:

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/boeheim_rips_melo_teammates_9mV28aYvwiU7CAczkiSZoL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Knicks

Imagine if Tyson had to defend the likes of Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq, Mourning, etc...? Maybe the crop of NBA centers are reemerging (Gasol, Hibbert) or maybe he just really overrated?

Considering the amount of cap room he takes up and the laughable quotes above, I'll go with the latter.

Gasol has been fantastic in these playoffs. Looks like a completely different player

Solace wrote:Btw, Charles Barkley said something really weird on Mike Lupica today. He said Chandler is 6'8" which is why he got pushed around by Hibbert. Wha?? I don't know wtf kind of blind goggles he's wearing, but Tyson Chandler is a legit 7'1", tard.

Maybe he meant Tyson plays like he is 6'8"?

misterearl wrote:Just one offensive move would be spectacular.

Just one.

Tyson Chandler was dominated by Roy Hibbert. That was the difference in the series.

If Tyson doesn't pony up the money to Hakeem this summer, to at least appear to be a low post threat, we're phucked.

We have no wiggle room, besides getting some minimum vets and the draft, we have no choice but to improve from within.