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VDesai
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5/20/2013  11:08 AM
Jennings stinks.

The right point guard for this team is Felton - from a cost and production standpoint. Unless your bringing in Chris Paul, I'm not actively throwing money out to get a PG. If you can acquire a Bledsoe or draft a guy, thats what I'd want to do.

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AnubisADL
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5/20/2013  11:12 AM
smackeddog wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
smackeddog wrote:He's awful! That game, several years ago where he scored a lot of points in his rookie year seems to have fooled people into thinking he's a great PG. He's not- bad skills, bad game, low bball IQ and lousy attitude. No thanks.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Bucks made the playoffs while the Sixer's and alot of other teams didnt. Hhhmmmmmm. I wonder why.

Jennings is no Chris Paul but he is above average for sure.

They only qualified for the playoffs, because the other eastern teams were so bad- they were terrible down the stretch and didn't deserve to make the playoffs. 38-44 record is an achievement nowadays and the mark of a good player? Really?

So what does that say about Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, Brandon Knight, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, and Kemba Walker?

Brandon Jennings is an above average player and has been for awhile.

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5/20/2013  11:15 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
smackeddog wrote:He's awful! That game, several years ago where he scored a lot of points in his rookie year seems to have fooled people into thinking he's a great PG. He's not- bad skills, bad game, low bball IQ and lousy attitude. No thanks.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Bucks made the playoffs while the Sixer's and alot of other teams didnt. Hhhmmmmmm. I wonder why.

Jennings is no Chris Paul but he is above average for sure.

They only qualified for the playoffs, because the other eastern teams were so bad- they were terrible down the stretch and didn't deserve to make the playoffs. 38-44 record is an achievement nowadays and the mark of a good player? Really?

So what does that say about Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, Brandon Knight, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, and Kemba Walker?

Brandon Jennings is an above average player and has been for awhile.

Problem is he thinks he's a max contract player- I am curious to see who actually wants him. Where do you see him going?

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5/20/2013  11:20 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
smackeddog wrote:He's awful! That game, several years ago where he scored a lot of points in his rookie year seems to have fooled people into thinking he's a great PG. He's not- bad skills, bad game, low bball IQ and lousy attitude. No thanks.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Bucks made the playoffs while the Sixer's and alot of other teams didnt. Hhhmmmmmm. I wonder why.

Jennings is no Chris Paul but he is above average for sure.

They only qualified for the playoffs, because the other eastern teams were so bad- they were terrible down the stretch and didn't deserve to make the playoffs. 38-44 record is an achievement nowadays and the mark of a good player? Really?

So what does that say about Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, Brandon Knight, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, and Kemba Walker?

Brandon Jennings is an above average player and has been for awhile.

Branden Jennings wants a max contract or close to it we cant S+T we have no cap room we have nothing the Bucks want so this player like Chirs Paul and D Howard has 0/100 chance of being a Knick.

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MS
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5/20/2013  11:35 AM
Again Lin is a marginal point guard, but better than average. His contract was crazy, but at the end of the day you signed Novak who is useless at 4MM a year, you signed Camby who is useless at 3MM and you have Kidd for two more years at 3MM a year. 10MM in players that likely won't contribute. Which was the cost of keeping Lin for the third year.

Would have been fine bringing him off the bench. You can't be financially prudent after you foolishly use an amnesty to bring in the one of the worst offensive centers in the league at 14MM a year.

The Knicks are exactly where they were before they started rebuilding. No where close to a championship.

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5/20/2013  12:02 PM
VDesai wrote:Jennings stinks.

The right point guard for this team is Felton - from a cost and production standpoint. Unless your bringing in Chris Paul, I'm not actively throwing money out to get a PG. If you can acquire a Bledsoe or draft a guy, thats what I'd want to do.

exactly. Felton is perfect for this team; an average PG who can pass the ball to melo.

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5/20/2013  12:03 PM
I wouldn't give a guy like Jennings more than the mini mid level let alone a max contract. He's an inefficient scoring point guard. I guess he'd be a good sixth man but I don't want him running my team.
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5/20/2013  12:07 PM
MS wrote:Again Lin is a marginal point guard, but better than average. His contract was crazy, but at the end of the day you signed Novak who is useless at 4MM a year, you signed Camby who is useless at 3MM and you have Kidd for two more years at 3MM a year. 10MM in players that likely won't contribute. Which was the cost of keeping Lin for the third year.

Would have been fine bringing him off the bench. You can't be financially prudent after you foolishly use an amnesty to bring in the one of the worst offensive centers in the league at 14MM a year.

The Knicks are exactly where they were before they started rebuilding. No where close to a championship.

Lin is a marginal PG but better than average? (scratching my head) what does that mean? he has a lot of upside. i understand his contract was crazy and they didn't want to resign him. since when were the knicks ever about thinking about the future anyways.

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5/20/2013  12:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/20/2013  12:15 PM
smackeddog wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
smackeddog wrote:He's awful! That game, several years ago where he scored a lot of points in his rookie year seems to have fooled people into thinking he's a great PG. He's not- bad skills, bad game, low bball IQ and lousy attitude. No thanks.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Bucks made the playoffs while the Sixer's and alot of other teams didnt. Hhhmmmmmm. I wonder why.

Jennings is no Chris Paul but he is above average for sure.

They only qualified for the playoffs, because the other eastern teams were so bad- they were terrible down the stretch and didn't deserve to make the playoffs. 38-44 record is an achievement nowadays and the mark of a good player? Really?

So what does that say about Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, Brandon Knight, John Wall, Kyrie Irving, and Kemba Walker?

Brandon Jennings is an above average player and has been for awhile.

Problem is he thinks he's a max contract player- I am curious to see who actually wants him. Where do you see him going?

Probably Dallas since they are swinging for the fences to appease Dirk. Like you, I'm cautious about Jennings but we need to take a gamble on a no.2 caliber player for Melo because Smith clearly isn't it and Amare is no longer in the discussion. Needless to say though, I side with Anubis in thinking that he is an above average player; I feel like that's no question.

What we should do is sign Jennings to a 3 year deal with the first two years grossly overpaying him and the 3rd a sharp decline ala Nick Collision a few year back who made $13 million in the first year of his contract and only made/makes about $2 million in subsequent years. Doing so better allows us to manage the risk of him not living up to expectations AND preserves our trump card which would be maximum cap space in the 2015 offseason.

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5/20/2013  12:14 PM
tj23 wrote:Nah I disagree I think Jennings is trash. He's a better version of Toney Douglas.

Oh damn!! The is nut. Ouch! TD is the worst I have ever seen. BJ is on another level if you are going to compare him to TD. IMO. Jennings would be a good fit.

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5/20/2013  12:16 PM
I really hope we draft a point guard.
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5/20/2013  12:16 PM
nycisgreat wrote:
tj23 wrote:Nah I disagree I think Jennings is trash. He's a better version of Toney Douglas.

Oh damn!! The is nut. Ouch! TD is the worst I have ever seen. BJ is on another level if you are going to compare him to TD. IMO. Jennings would be a good fit.

TD isn't even an NBA player. This was his last year ever playing ball on this level; dude was absolute trash.

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5/20/2013  12:41 PM
smackeddog wrote:Problem is he thinks he's a max contract player- I am curious to see who actually wants him. Where do you see him going?

He doesnt think he is a max player. He does not want to play in Milwaukee. He wants to be overpaid to play in Milwaukee. He was offered a 4 year 40 million dollar extension before the season started.

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5/20/2013  12:43 PM
I'd rather get Tyreke Evans than Jennings
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5/20/2013  12:45 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I'd rather get Tyreke Evans than Jennings

I rather have other players too but we arent getting Tyreke Evans.

I preferred Wade, Bosh, or Lebron to Amare. Have to work with what may be attainable.

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5/20/2013  12:48 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:I'd rather get Tyreke Evans than Jennings

I rather have other players too but we arent getting Tyreke Evans.

I preferred Wade, Bosh, or Lebron to Amare. Have to work with what may be attainable.


He could be had. I don't think the Kings are that high on him. Could be worng.
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5/20/2013  12:51 PM
I have the answer to this thread! He's been with us all along...Chris Smith!


Nah, seriously, hope we keep our 24th pick and go for Shane Larkin or Erick Green at guard. We desperately need some speed at that position.

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5/20/2013  12:57 PM
nycisgreat wrote:
tj23 wrote:Nah I disagree I think Jennings is trash. He's a better version of Toney Douglas.

Oh damn!! The is nut. Ouch! TD is the worst I have ever seen. BJ is on another level if you are going to compare him to TD. IMO. Jennings would be a good fit.

That's why I said "better version". His defense is straight but he's a reckless player, streak shooter, average around the basket, and average passer. He's not even better than Felton. I can only imagine the heat BJ will get here...

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5/20/2013  1:03 PM
yellowboy90 wrote: He could be had. I don't think the Kings are that high on him. Could be worng.

I prefer big guards like Tyreke Evans. But we have nothing the Kings want. Evans played well for them this year.

I only mention Jennings because Milwaukee lacks a center and we could send Chandler to Milwaukee. Larry Sanders is cool but the guy is rail thin.

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5/20/2013  1:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/20/2013  1:06 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I'd rather get Tyreke Evans than Jennings

Evans is fools good. He can stuff a stat sheet but has the bball IQ of a doorknob and stagnates an offense from the PG position. I seriously think that the Kings either let him walk or try to get together whatever few assets they can get for him.

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