Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

blkexec wrote:

callmened wrote:i know its natural to be overly pessimistic after a season ending loss and i hate to burst your bubble but
- were over the cap so we only have the 3MLE to sign a FA
- about 5 players are leaving
- say what you want about JR, but he averaged 18ppg and will leave
- Tyson and amare are damaged goods
- cope will leave for more money
- Rondo, Granger and DRose return to the east and lets not forget miami

please excuse me for feeling so gloomy but i think i have some objective reasons to be

I think you will be very surprised at the knicks off season moves. It looks bad now, but everybody knows are weaknesses by now. It will make it that much easier to add the right pieces.

This is right. We will see moves and improvements. Most people felt the same last offseason and said the same things. Look how much we improved.

Who did we really bring in that really helped us this year? Felton, Prigioni, and Kenyon Martin who was brought in midseason. Most of the roster and the guys who got most of the minutes were players who were already here; Melo, Tyson, Shumpert, JR, and Novak were already on the team. And we also had more maneuverability because we could do sign-and-trades last Summer, this year we probably won't be able to.

Copeland, Prigioni, Felton, and Martin were all unexpected pickups that helped tremendously. Also Brewer who helped early in the season. These were all buy low players who are nba role players. We will find more of these guys.

That alone might make us good enough to again be a poor man's version of last decade's Hawks but not a title contender

In their best 2 season they got swept in the 2nd round. They never won a division title and won 53 games once. So how are we a poor mans version of them again?

Fair enough. It was a bad exaggeration. We haven't achieved much more than last decade's Hawks and I don't see how anything you cited (adding more guys like Prigioni, etc.) will change that.

I agree it is an uphill battle but a good series from JR could have been the difference. We just have to hope things fall into place at the right time. Unless you are the Heat where your talent is that much greater, it takes a lot of luck and various factors to get there anyways. I think we can do it but a lot has to go right of course.

Jmpasq wrote:the only hope for the Knicks is for them to land an All Star like they did with David Lee at the back of the draft and Iman Shumpert turns into Andre Iguodala

Igoudala is the comparison I believe shumpert needs to strive for as well, plus be a better shooting version. We know he will improve. Also, if we can find a player the way we did Lee or trade for an emerging young player like Bledsoe, we will be on the right track.

PG AJ price/jose calderon
SG gary neal/randy foye
SF martell webster/anthony tolivver/matt barnes/dorell wright
PF dante cunningham/ivan johnson/Dejuan blair
C Sam dalembert