StarksEwing1 wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:It was obvious from the 1st game. Hibbert was getting away with killing everyone in the paint. NY got called for touch fouls all series. The FT discrepancy was horrible all series and tonight much worse. 40-18???? really?

With that the team could have won.

Again the main reason the knicks lost was because they were awdul in Games 1 3 and 4.

NardDogNation wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:It was obvious from the 1st game. Hibbert was getting away with killing everyone in the paint. NY got called for touch fouls all series. The FT discrepancy was horrible all series and tonight much worse. 40-18???? really?

With that the team could have won.

Again the main reason the knicks lost was because they were awdul in Games 1 3 and 4.

Bull. I don't by the "fall on one's sword stuff". Its like tying a man's hand behind his back and then blame him for having a weak jab. That being said, we definitely had our faults and I think Indiana is the deeper team but this game was gift wrapped.

Men with hands tied behind their backs don't drop 39 points,

IronWillGiroud wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:It was obvious from the 1st game. Hibbert was getting away with killing everyone in the paint. NY got called for touch fouls all series. The FT discrepancy was horrible all series and tonight much worse. 40-18???? really?

With that the team could have won.

Again the main reason the knicks lost was because they were awdul in Games 1 3 and 4.

Bull. I don't by the "fall on one's sword stuff". Its like tying a man's hand behind his back and then blame him for having a weak jab. That being said, we definitely had our faults and I think Indiana is the deeper team but this game was gift wrapped.

Men with hands tied behind their backs don't drop 39 points,

they planned to tie all other hands behind the back except for melo's,

StarksEwing1 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:It was obvious from the 1st game. Hibbert was getting away with killing everyone in the paint. NY got called for touch fouls all series. The FT discrepancy was horrible all series and tonight much worse. 40-18???? really?

With that the team could have won.

Again the main reason the knicks lost was because they were awdul in Games 1 3 and 4.

Bull. I don't by the "fall on one's sword stuff". Its like tying a man's hand behind his back and then blame him for having a weak jab. That being said, we definitely had our faults and I think Indiana is the deeper team but this game was gift wrapped.

How about Game 1 3 and 4 were those all giftwrapped too? Look im the biggest Knick fan out there but i call it like it is. The refs were bad tonight but they arent the reason we are going home. If the Knicks showed up in Games 1 3 and 4 we could have won this series

StarksEwing1 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:It was obvious from the 1st game. Hibbert was getting away with killing everyone in the paint. NY got called for touch fouls all series. The FT discrepancy was horrible all series and tonight much worse. 40-18???? really?

With that the team could have won.

Again the main reason the knicks lost was because they were awdul in Games 1 3 and 4.

Bull. I don't by the "fall on one's sword stuff". Its like tying a man's hand behind his back and then blame him for having a weak jab. That being said, we definitely had our faults and I think Indiana is the deeper team but this game was gift wrapped.

How about Game 1 3 and 4 were those all giftwrapped too? Look im the biggest Knick fan out there but i call it like it is. The refs were bad tonight but they arent the reason we are going home. If the Knicks showed up in Games 1 3 and 4 we could have won this series

Irish, Is it possible for the Knicks to play poorly in game 1,3,and 4 and the refs officiated the game poorly???

Vmart wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:This was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen; on par with the Kings-Lakers back in the day. All you have to do is look at the free throw disparity and fouls called disparity. We shot about 18 free throws and they shot 40. There is no ****ing way a team that physical pulls that off. Ultimately, the refeering improved in the 2nd half but that doesn't say much considering how abyssmal it was to start. I mean, they called two phantom fouls against Shumpert and Martin in the final minutes of the game, which NEVER get called. The league needs to investigate these guys because I'm sure there are a few Tim Donaghey's in the bunch.

Don't think the league wasn't in on it.

Exactly. League knows the ratings for the ECF will be much higher if the most populous city in the country isn't represented.

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:It was obvious from the 1st game. Hibbert was getting away with killing everyone in the paint. NY got called for touch fouls all series. The FT discrepancy was horrible all series and tonight much worse. 40-18???? really?

With that the team could have won.

Again the main reason the knicks lost was because they were awdul in Games 1 3 and 4.

Bull. I don't by the "fall on one's sword stuff". Its like tying a man's hand behind his back and then blame him for having a weak jab. That being said, we definitely had our faults and I think Indiana is the deeper team but this game was gift wrapped.

How about Game 1 3 and 4 were those all giftwrapped too? Look im the biggest Knick fan out there but i call it like it is. The refs were bad tonight but they arent the reason we are going home. If the Knicks showed up in Games 1 3 and 4 we could have won this series

Irish, Is it possible for the Knicks to play poorly in game 1,3,and 4 and the refs officiated the game poorly???

I like that 'Irish'

IronWillGiroud wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:It was obvious from the 1st game. Hibbert was getting away with killing everyone in the paint. NY got called for touch fouls all series. The FT discrepancy was horrible all series and tonight much worse. 40-18???? really?

With that the team could have won.

Again the main reason the knicks lost was because they were awdul in Games 1 3 and 4.

Bull. I don't by the "fall on one's sword stuff". Its like tying a man's hand behind his back and then blame him for having a weak jab. That being said, we definitely had our faults and I think Indiana is the deeper team but this game was gift wrapped.

Men with hands tied behind their backs don't drop 39 points,

No but apparently teams do.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:It was obvious from the 1st game. Hibbert was getting away with killing everyone in the paint. NY got called for touch fouls all series. The FT discrepancy was horrible all series and tonight much worse. 40-18???? really?

With that the team could have won.

Again the main reason the knicks lost was because they were awdul in Games 1 3 and 4.

Bull. I don't by the "fall on one's sword stuff". Its like tying a man's hand behind his back and then blame him for having a weak jab. That being said, we definitely had our faults and I think Indiana is the deeper team but this game was gift wrapped.

How about Game 1 3 and 4 were those all giftwrapped too? Look im the biggest Knick fan out there but i call it like it is. The refs were bad tonight but they arent the reason we are going home. If the Knicks showed up in Games 1 3 and 4 we could have won this series

Listen, I know the Knicks had their faults. I've even mentioned that the Pacers are the deeper team. But its ridiculous IMO to sit here and pretend like the refs did not have an overwhelming impact in the dictating who won the game, which wasn't based on merit.

markvmc wrote:

Vmart wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:This was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen; on par with the Kings-Lakers back in the day. All you have to do is look at the free throw disparity and fouls called disparity. We shot about 18 free throws and they shot 40. There is no ****ing way a team that physical pulls that off. Ultimately, the refeering improved in the 2nd half but that doesn't say much considering how abyssmal it was to start. I mean, they called two phantom fouls against Shumpert and Martin in the final minutes of the game, which NEVER get called. The league needs to investigate these guys because I'm sure there are a few Tim Donaghey's in the bunch.

Don't think the league wasn't in on it.

Exactly. League knows the ratings for the ECF will be much higher if the most populous city in the country isn't represented.

No one said that the league is rigged and since I was the one to suggest foul play was at hand, I'm going to assume this sarcastic comment is directed at me. Re-read what I said. If you do, then you'll see that I think the refs were dirty and dirty **** happens even if guys at the top are not involved. My case and point was Tim Donaghey who was supposedly a lone wolf. So save the sarcastic remarks until you follow what is being said.