It's all effort related, they'll play much better in game 4, the exact same lineup.

Also by making the Pacers work harder and longer on defense that will help the Knicks overall in defending the Pacer too. If the Pacers have to keep moving and adjusting to the offense, effectively chasing the Knicks smaller players that would take some of their energy away. But if we play slow that just allows the Pacers to conserve energy for their offense and defense against us. Also playing a faster pace allows us to get more possessions and the more shots we put up the more chance our shooters will get hot. That leads to a hot streak and a run which is how this team often beats teams.

nixluva wrote:Seems Woody agrees with me that the Knicks are playing too slow. Not that I didn't think the team was aware of the need to play faster, but what the hell happened then?

Coach Woodson: "We're playing too slow. We gotta pick our pace up."

They gotta play faster on Offense and Defense. The help has to come quicker and more aggressive like it was in game 2. Felton, Shump, JR and Prigs all have to push the pace and play more aggressively on both ends. Picking up the energy will lead to good things and I'm hopeful that they will bring that energy in game 4.

Our best 2 defensive BIGS for this team to play together are Martin with Camby
I seriously don't think it is mainly Plantar Facilt.. that is keeping Camby from playing but Woodson himself

We need to give Copeland the chance to play/spread the floor/creating mismatch with their bigs
However, he plays his best at C and is too slow to play together with Chandler/Amare *weak defensively and RBs*

Chandler is just not the same player he was, whether it is his neck/age/injuries, effort has been inconsistent all season, with many of his great RB nights off tap outs
He is a step slow and simply lacks speed/mobility in addition to the effort he had last year
Maybe he needs to get involved in offense with PnR's to get him going defensively as Shaq would say, "It is natural for a big to play harder on both ends if he get's touches on the offensive end"
He has been playing like a 3rd string C for the most part but he starts the game and gets starters minutes
His inability to be a scoring threat and fighting for position has been putrid

Martin is just too small to match up vs Hibbert, that is why I would prefer 2 mobile bigs that are our best shot blockers/rotaters on team DEF in Camby/Martin together with Camby putting a body on Hibbert and both can help each other with others which Woodson's philosophy does

Woodson needs to tweak his lineups and rotations, especially with Kidd, he should not be playing or playing many minutes off the bench
However, Woodson is just too damn stubborn to do so and always favoring veterans over talents like Copeland he has always delivered when given the chance to do so
It was a huge mistake by not building on his confidence as he was a big part of our winning streak to the play offs
Instead he opts to give Amare minutes when he has not played for 3months and is even worse of a DEF and REBOUNDER than Cope without his ability to stretch the floor to cause mismatches

Remember our last meeting vs Pacers, even Vogal said it is very hard to defend 4 shooters on the court together, let alone 5 with Cope

1- IF Chandler is not producing, don't play him that many minutes,
2- if Kidd is struggling to defend sit him,
3- IF DJ AGUSTINE is too quick/fast for our back ups to defend put someone else on him,
4- if JR is not shooting the ball well TELL HIM TO CONCENTRATE on REB/DEF/FACILITATING and not going 1v1,
5- IF MELO's shot is not falling call less ISO plays and tell him to make a move or just move the ball to the open man, it really is that simple
6- If West/Hibbert is killing us, put to put in different bodies, make sure they are boxing out Hibbert for the offensive boards when Chandler isnt

We cannot blame it all on Woodson when the shot is not falling but there were plenty of things that he could have done especially with the amount of time we had to prepare for such an important game, adjustments, preparation, and accountability were not made

ACCOUNTABILITY... where did it go?

IronWillGiroud wrote:woodson needs to hold someone accountable, because it feels like this ship is in a tailspin and we're going down fast

not sure what he can do, imho. without melo or jr doing anything we aren't going to win too many games against good teams like the pacers.

Has anyone considered that whatever personal issue Ray Felton had to deal with during the break, and miss practice, may have affected his play?

1) 3 ball game has disappeared along with Novak, JR, cope and Kidd
2) Felton has a bad game, were usually toast
2) We not a very good rebounding team, but when we miss FT's and Turn the ball over (which were really good at)were awful

Even though novak doesn't play much D and Cope is suspect, the ONE thing they always do, is move the ball, which sets off a trend, and we start getting good shots for others.

Woods feel like Novak can'T guard anyone of the pacers bigs (thats how a defensive coach thinks)

MDA may think, as long as my defense is half decent, my offense will win, theres no way the pacers have enough weapons to keep up with us.