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5/12/2013  2:22 AM
Before Tyson went to Dallas people criticized him for being lazy and soft.

Well, turns out he is all that.

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5/12/2013  8:02 AM
Tyson was complaining in the post game that they didnt follow the game plan guarding Hibbert & didn't trap him ,basically throwing the rest of the team under the bus, he won the defensive player of the year last year, you would think he would take it upon himself and say I need to play better against him and play harder. I'm very disappointed in Chandler He should be able to guard Hibbert one on one he should not need a double or help. I wish the Knicks would have went after Marc Gasol in 2011 instead of Chandler , even though Memphis probably would have matched cause he was a restricted free agent, that's a guy who plays on both ends and is tough, Chandler has been a soft at times & gives zero on offense.
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5/12/2013  9:18 AM
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MSG3 wrote:Chandler is the most overrated player in the NBA. I said this during his DPOY year and u said it this year pre all star break. Everything good about his offense is because of the hard work of others getting him easy looks. He's nothing special at all. Him and JR are fools gold. Fuck Tyson.

Lol, tell us how you really feel. I've mentioned trading Tyson in the past and I keep on coming back to the Clippers. Tyson's played with Chris Paul in New Orleans, Chris Paul is supposedly feuding with DeAndre Jordan (and Griffin which doesn't matter to us), and the Clippers are supposedly desperate to please him so he'll agree to stay. I've been wondering if we can trade Tyson to LA for Jordan and Bledsoe, maybe include our 1st rounder this year as well.


Lol, you're not getting a younger version Tyson and Bledsoe for Tyson, offer Melo and they might bite.

I think we could if Chris Paul wants him, LA will bend over backwards for him and he supposedly doesn't like Jordan. Also, LA doesn't play him at the end of games because him and Griffin are such bad FT shooters, Tyson's not great but he's good enough that they could put out their best 5-man unit to close out games.

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5/12/2013  9:40 AM
the best you could do is trade Tyson to the blazers. No one is going to give up anything for Tyson.
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5/12/2013  9:41 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:the best you could do is trade Tyson to the blazers. No one is going to give up anything for Tyson.

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5/12/2013  10:00 AM
I thought Amare played Hibbert with the best defense.
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5/12/2013  10:30 AM
Love it when people start judging a player when they're in a slump and make out that's what they're always like.

He's been okay this season, with some high points but a some lows too. Which C's are honestly better than him? Gasol, Hibbert (who is paid a lot more and is more inconsistent), Dwight, Noah, maybe Asik- anyone else? Who would you really rather have at center who is obtainable?

Overall it's been a disappointing year defensively- I think he's moved his focus on to wanting to score more, and so when he doesn't get many touches on that end, he doesn't seem to play with as much passion defensively.
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5/12/2013  10:36 AM
I said this during the game,

guy looked half asleep out there and 2 steps slow,

I know exactly how he was playing, because I've played like that for a few 10 pm games in rec league when I was very tired and just "not with it",

it's pretty bad for a pro athlete whose only job is to play basketball, for me it is excused because I work full time and I can't always be 100%, especially not for a 10 pm game,

because when I play 10 pm game, first it doesn't really start until 10:15 or so, then you play for an hour, you're all hyped up and it's almost midnight by the time you get home, by the time you shower clean up and get to bed, it's almost 1 am, then you gotta wake up in the morning, i just hate 10 pm games,

but this guy is payed gazillions of dollars to do nothing else BUT PLAY BASKETBALL, AND HE IS HALF ASLEEP? TWO STEPS SLOW?? DISGRACE, TYSON SHOULD BE BENCHED FOR THE REST OF THE PLAYOFFS

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5/12/2013  10:36 AM
smackeddog wrote:Love it when people start judging a player when they're in a slump and make out that's what they're always like.

He's been okay this season, with some high points but a some lows too. Which C's are honestly better than him? Gasol, Hibbert (who is paid a lot more and is more inconsistent), Dwight, Noah, maybe Asik- anyone else? Who would you really rather have at center who is obtainable?

Overall it's been a disappointing year defensively- I think he's moved his focus on to wanting to score more, and so when he doesn't get many touches on that end, he doesn't seem to play with as much passion defensively.

Thats a back handed slap. One end of the floor should not affect the other. I personally think Chandler is hurting with his injury. In this series I feel Barron would be really useful.
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5/12/2013  10:42 AM
smackeddog wrote:Love it when people start judging a player when they're in a slump and make out that's what they're always like.

He's been okay this season, with some high points but a some lows too. Which C's are honestly better than him? Gasol, Hibbert (who is paid a lot more and is more inconsistent), Dwight, Noah, maybe Asik- anyone else? Who would you really rather have at center who is obtainable?

Overall it's been a disappointing year defensively- I think he's moved his focus on to wanting to score more, and so when he doesn't get many touches on that end, he doesn't seem to play with as much passion defensively.

Defensively, he's pretty much been this bad all season. And if he's not playing defense like he did last season then there really isn't much of a difference between him and any other starting center.

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5/12/2013  10:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/12/2013  10:47 AM
smackeddog wrote:Love it when people start judging a player when they're in a slump and make out that's what they're always like.

He's been okay this season, with some high points but a some lows too. Which C's are honestly better than him? Gasol, Hibbert (who is paid a lot more and is more inconsistent), Dwight, Noah, maybe Asik- anyone else? Who would you really rather have at center who is obtainable?

Overall it's been a disappointing year defensively- I think he's moved his focus on to wanting to score more, and so when he doesn't get many touches on that end, he doesn't seem to play with as much passion defensively.

Chandler is solid but we need more than him to get us over the top.

Deandre Jordan and Bledsoe would be a GREAT deal.

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5/12/2013  10:48 AM
VCoug wrote:
knickscity wrote:
VCoug wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Chandler is the most overrated player in the NBA. I said this during his DPOY year and u said it this year pre all star break. Everything good about his offense is because of the hard work of others getting him easy looks. He's nothing special at all. Him and JR are fools gold. Fuck Tyson.

Lol, tell us how you really feel. I've mentioned trading Tyson in the past and I keep on coming back to the Clippers. Tyson's played with Chris Paul in New Orleans, Chris Paul is supposedly feuding with DeAndre Jordan (and Griffin which doesn't matter to us), and the Clippers are supposedly desperate to please him so he'll agree to stay. I've been wondering if we can trade Tyson to LA for Jordan and Bledsoe, maybe include our 1st rounder this year as well.


Lol, you're not getting a younger version Tyson and Bledsoe for Tyson, offer Melo and they might bite.

I think we could if Chris Paul wants him, LA will bend over backwards for him and he supposedly doesn't like Jordan. Also, LA doesn't play him at the end of games because him and Griffin are such bad FT shooters, Tyson's not great but he's good enough that they could put out their best 5-man unit to close out games.


They are not trading for Tyson no matter what Chris Paul wants.

Jordan doesn't play alot because he isn't that good and has a bad work ethic.

Want a big, find out any loophole to get dwight.
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5/12/2013  11:01 AM
knickscity wrote:
VCoug wrote:
knickscity wrote:
VCoug wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Chandler is the most overrated player in the NBA. I said this during his DPOY year and u said it this year pre all star break. Everything good about his offense is because of the hard work of others getting him easy looks. He's nothing special at all. Him and JR are fools gold. Fuck Tyson.

Lol, tell us how you really feel. I've mentioned trading Tyson in the past and I keep on coming back to the Clippers. Tyson's played with Chris Paul in New Orleans, Chris Paul is supposedly feuding with DeAndre Jordan (and Griffin which doesn't matter to us), and the Clippers are supposedly desperate to please him so he'll agree to stay. I've been wondering if we can trade Tyson to LA for Jordan and Bledsoe, maybe include our 1st rounder this year as well.


Lol, you're not getting a younger version Tyson and Bledsoe for Tyson, offer Melo and they might bite.

I think we could if Chris Paul wants him, LA will bend over backwards for him and he supposedly doesn't like Jordan. Also, LA doesn't play him at the end of games because him and Griffin are such bad FT shooters, Tyson's not great but he's good enough that they could put out their best 5-man unit to close out games.


They are not trading for Tyson no matter what Chris Paul wants.

Jordan doesn't play alot because he isn't that good and has a bad work ethic.

Want a big, find out any loophole to get dwight.

If Jordan isn't that good and has a bad work ethic why wouldn't they trade him for Tyson?

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5/12/2013  11:08 AM
knickscity wrote:
VCoug wrote:
knickscity wrote:
VCoug wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Chandler is the most overrated player in the NBA. I said this during his DPOY year and u said it this year pre all star break. Everything good about his offense is because of the hard work of others getting him easy looks. He's nothing special at all. Him and JR are fools gold. Fuck Tyson.

Lol, tell us how you really feel. I've mentioned trading Tyson in the past and I keep on coming back to the Clippers. Tyson's played with Chris Paul in New Orleans, Chris Paul is supposedly feuding with DeAndre Jordan (and Griffin which doesn't matter to us), and the Clippers are supposedly desperate to please him so he'll agree to stay. I've been wondering if we can trade Tyson to LA for Jordan and Bledsoe, maybe include our 1st rounder this year as well.


Lol, you're not getting a younger version Tyson and Bledsoe for Tyson, offer Melo and they might bite.

I think we could if Chris Paul wants him, LA will bend over backwards for him and he supposedly doesn't like Jordan. Also, LA doesn't play him at the end of games because him and Griffin are such bad FT shooters, Tyson's not great but he's good enough that they could put out their best 5-man unit to close out games.


They are not trading for Tyson no matter what Chris Paul wants.

Jordan doesn't play alot because he isn't that good and has a bad work ethic.

Want a big, find out any loophole to get dwight.

Tyson is better than Jordan and they both have 2 years remaining. Clippers without Paul is a lottery team.

How do you suppose the Clippers upgrade? They arent trading Griffin or Paul. So who does that leave?

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5/12/2013  1:38 PM
If we're going to try to flip Tyson Chandler for Bledsoe and Jordan, could we possibly flip them and filler for Rajon Rondo. I know that getting smaller is counterproductive to what ails this team but Rondo is legitimate star and provides a fail-safe when our offense stagnates. He and Shumpert would form the best defensive backcourt on the league, which should help balance what would be one of the weakest interior defenses in the league. I suppose the center position could be taken care of by committee with Martin, Amare, Camby (insert joke here), and Barron along with a free agent signing e.g. Dalembert, Kaman, Oden, etc.
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5/12/2013  1:41 PM
NardDogNation wrote:If we're going to try to flip Tyson Chandler for Bledsoe and Jordan, could we possibly flip them and filler for Rajon Rondo. I know that getting smaller is counterproductive to what ails this team but Rondo is legitimate star and provides a fail-safe when our offense stagnates. He and Shumpert would form the best defensive backcourt on the league, which should help balance what would be one of the weakest interior defenses in the league. I suppose the center position could be taken care of by committee with Martin, Amare, Camby (insert joke here), and Barron along with a free agent signing e.g. Dalembert, Kaman, Oden, etc.

I can't imagine Dolan doing that. That's basically forfeiting the 2013-14 regular season since we'd no center and Rondo would be out for most of the year.
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5/12/2013  1:50 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:If we're going to try to flip Tyson Chandler for Bledsoe and Jordan, could we possibly flip them and filler for Rajon Rondo. I know that getting smaller is counterproductive to what ails this team but Rondo is legitimate star and provides a fail-safe when our offense stagnates. He and Shumpert would form the best defensive backcourt on the league, which should help balance what would be one of the weakest interior defenses in the league. I suppose the center position could be taken care of by committee with Martin, Amare, Camby (insert joke here), and Barron along with a free agent signing e.g. Dalembert, Kaman, Oden, etc.

I can't imagine Dolan doing that. That's basically forfeiting the 2013-14 regular season since we'd no center and Rondo would be out for most of the year.

He should be back by the start of the season but he clearly won't be Rajon Rondo of old until later in the season, if not until next season. I suppose the good thing about leveraging Tyson Chandler's contract for him is that we can keep Raymond Felton as our stand-in.
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NardDogNation wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:If we're going to try to flip Tyson Chandler for Bledsoe and Jordan, could we possibly flip them and filler for Rajon Rondo. I know that getting smaller is counterproductive to what ails this team but Rondo is legitimate star and provides a fail-safe when our offense stagnates. He and Shumpert would form the best defensive backcourt on the league, which should help balance what would be one of the weakest interior defenses in the league. I suppose the center position could be taken care of by committee with Martin, Amare, Camby (insert joke here), and Barron along with a free agent signing e.g. Dalembert, Kaman, Oden, etc.

I can't imagine Dolan doing that. That's basically forfeiting the 2013-14 regular season since we'd no center and Rondo would be out for most of the year.

He should be back by the start of the season but he clearly won't be Rajon Rondo of old until later in the season, if not until next season. I suppose the good thing about leveraging Tyson Chandler's contract for him is that we can keep Raymond Felton as our stand-in.


Did you hear that? It usually takes a full year with ACL tears, which would mean a mid season return
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Bonn1997 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:If we're going to try to flip Tyson Chandler for Bledsoe and Jordan, could we possibly flip them and filler for Rajon Rondo. I know that getting smaller is counterproductive to what ails this team but Rondo is legitimate star and provides a fail-safe when our offense stagnates. He and Shumpert would form the best defensive backcourt on the league, which should help balance what would be one of the weakest interior defenses in the league. I suppose the center position could be taken care of by committee with Martin, Amare, Camby (insert joke here), and Barron along with a free agent signing e.g. Dalembert, Kaman, Oden, etc.

I can't imagine Dolan doing that. That's basically forfeiting the 2013-14 regular season since we'd no center and Rondo would be out for most of the year.

He should be back by the start of the season but he clearly won't be Rajon Rondo of old until later in the season, if not until next season. I suppose the good thing about leveraging Tyson Chandler's contract for him is that we can keep Raymond Felton as our stand-in.


Did you hear that? It usually takes a full year with ACL tears, which would mean a mid season return

I didn't hear that specifically but there were reports that the tear was not as serious as expected and might have only been a partial tear.
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5/12/2013  1:54 PM
NYDiva wrote:
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AnubisADL wrote:He isnt lazy he is overrated. He is solid versus teams with no center.

Miami is the perfect team for Chandler to play against, Bosh isn't a beast in the paint.

I'm starting to doubt the Knicks will be seeing Miami.

Tuesday's game is the thing. If they can win on Tuesday, it puts them right back in the driver's seat, with game 5 being at MSG.

If they don't...well, there are parting gifts to the left.


I'm worried about this team's ability to win two games in a row. Each team has shown the ability to win on the other's court. The flow of this series non has us behind the 8 ball. We need a different rotation to deal with the Pacers size advantage.
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