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jrodmc
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5/2/2013  10:09 AM
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I will happily point to the fact we won three playoff games!

At least Melo plays in the playoffs, contrary to all those we traded away/let go.

Isn't that kind of irrelevant?

Say was lose in 7 and Denver loses in 6, you think that it matters?

Denver loses after winning 57 games might sting for its fans, but this ain't about them, its about Knicks.

Is it irrelevant to all the "All we've got to show for Melo is one playoff win" posts? The man shows up. Three years running. Melo don't need no fuhhucking percentages.

What's irrelevant is Denver. Denver is irrelevant. Gallo is irrelevant. Moz is irrelevant. I could say Wilson is irrelevant, but I don't have the ambition required to go look up his impact on their series so far.

I am a Knicks fan. I love our Starphuqched Mooby and all his bully ball killer quarters BK channeling talent. Beats the crap out of spending my life wondering how to pay Faried to stay in nowhere land. IMHO.

If its irrelevant, why keep bringing them up? A small sample of posters who do it.

If you measure the knicks against Denver, its relevant to you.

Are you part of the small sample set?
I was also referring to JLin, DLee, etc...

Melo is relevant. 3 wins are relevant. Playoffs spent in the uniform is relevant.
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5/2/2013  10:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/2/2013  10:23 AM
Only crybabies think like losers before the results are final.

Man up

Anyone who thinks any playoff series is easy, is delusional

Especially a franchise with ghosts in the rafters

once a knick always a knick
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5/2/2013  10:37 AM
misterearl wrote:Only crybabies think like losers before the results are final.

Man up

Anyone who thinks any playoff series is easy, is delusional

Especially a franchise with ghosts in the rafters

Crybabies? Losers? Man up at a UK bball get together and talk **** like that earl, please. Ghost in the rafters? You're blaming it on fing ghosts? Who is delusional here? They lost because they were acting like a bunch of high schoolers. We handed it to them. No one here has given up.
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5/2/2013  10:39 AM
You tie a great millstone to this team and pitch it into the Hudson River and start over.
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5/2/2013  10:57 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
misterearl wrote:Only crybabies think like losers before the results are final.

Man up

Anyone who thinks any playoff series is easy, is delusional

Especially a franchise with ghosts in the rafters

Crybabies? Losers? Man up at a UK bball get together and talk **** like that earl, please. Ghost in the rafters? You're blaming it on fing ghosts? Who is delusional here? They lost because they were acting like a bunch of high schoolers. We handed it to them. No one here has given up.

I think he means the Celtics "heroes with banners" tht hang in the rafters in Boston. When we talk of "Yankee pride", they talk the same. They have the tradition.

Even if they go down, Boston made is a series and can keep their head up with pride.
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5/2/2013  11:08 AM
Nalod wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
misterearl wrote:Only crybabies think like losers before the results are final.

Man up

Anyone who thinks any playoff series is easy, is delusional

Especially a franchise with ghosts in the rafters

Crybabies? Losers? Man up at a UK bball get together and talk **** like that earl, please. Ghost in the rafters? You're blaming it on fing ghosts? Who is delusional here? They lost because they were acting like a bunch of high schoolers. We handed it to them. No one here has given up.

I think he means the Celtics "heroes with banners" tht hang in the rafters in Boston. When we talk of "Yankee pride", they talk the same. They have the tradition.

Even if they go down, Boston made is a series and can keep their head up with pride.


That's a generous interpretation of why they lost. It was the Knicks lack of professionalism that did them in more than it was Celtic tradition. They talk trash and act the way they did like this to any team filled with former champions and veterans, could be the Heat, and this is what is going to happen more often than not. Bucks learned that the hard way. I ain't afraid of no ghosts.
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5/2/2013  12:58 PM
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I will happily point to the fact we won three playoff games!

At least Melo plays in the playoffs, contrary to all those we traded away/let go.

Isn't that kind of irrelevant?

Say was lose in 7 and Denver loses in 6, you think that it matters?

Denver loses after winning 57 games might sting for its fans, but this ain't about them, its about Knicks.

not one bit and no one will remember anything positive either. Same way that the nba talking heads forget that we lost last year because of a lack of Point Guard play...same thing that cost Boston the 1st 3games but, if we win it will be because Rondo was injured, not because we were better. Its crazy.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/2/2013  1:04 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I will happily point to the fact we won three playoff games!

At least Melo plays in the playoffs, contrary to all those we traded away/let go.

Isn't that kind of irrelevant?

Say was lose in 7 and Denver loses in 6, you think that it matters?

Denver loses after winning 57 games might sting for its fans, but this ain't about them, its about Knicks.

not one bit and no one will remember anything positive either. Same way that the nba talking heads forget that we lost last year because of a lack of Point Guard play...same thing that cost Boston the 1st 3games but, if we win it will be because Rondo was injured, not because we were better. Its crazy.


Or the year before that when it was Melo and scrubs. I like it when the Knicks are doubted though they've played better.
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5/2/2013  1:23 PM
If we lose this series--we should keep the core and rebuild the back end with an eye on getting younger and helping out transition game(which is ranked 30th)
Tyson Carmelo Shumpert JR Smith Amare Felton

To me gone Kidd Prigioni Camby and would like to trade Novak

Needs 2 younger guards who have the capability to shoot and play 82 games

1 Vet big man

1 younger more athletic big man

RIP Crushalot😞
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5/2/2013  1:24 PM
Nalod wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:If they blow this series,

you have to trade Melo for whatever you can get,

you fire Woodson and hire Mike Fratello,

you have to trade everyone

Basically you saying "panic"!

Panic?

This is the third playoffs of the Melo Era. We are running out of ammo for the "give it time" excuse.

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5/2/2013  1:33 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
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DurzoBlint wrote:I will stop posting, will still be a knicks fan but, the level of fandom will severely drop. Meaning to hell with league pass, to hell with message boards and thank goodness I haven't wasted any money on a jersey in 5years.

You made it through all the Isiah and Layden years but won't make it through this? This board is a great social group. It's a great place to share each others sadness or joys after the season.

I'm just venting for the most part but, the league pass is dead to me.


Fair enough. I'd say you just have to learn to appreciate play throughout the league - the diversity of Lebron's skill set. The ridiculous efficiency of Harden and Durant, etc.

i LOVE League pass!! had it since directv introduced it years ago..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/2/2013  1:36 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I will happily point to the fact we won three playoff games!

At least Melo plays in the playoffs, contrary to all those we traded away/let go.

Isn't that kind of irrelevant?

Say was lose in 7 and Denver loses in 6, you think that it matters?

Denver loses after winning 57 games might sting for its fans, but this ain't about them, its about Knicks.

Is it irrelevant to all the "All we've got to show for Melo is one playoff win" posts? The man shows up. Three years running. Melo don't need no fuhhucking percentages.

What's irrelevant is Denver. Denver is irrelevant. Gallo is irrelevant. Moz is irrelevant. I could say Wilson is irrelevant, but I don't have the ambition required to go look up his impact on their series so far.

I am a Knicks fan. I love our Starphuqched Mooby and all his bully ball killer quarters BK channeling talent. Beats the crap out of spending my life wondering how to pay Faried to stay in nowhere land. IMHO.

have you ever watched king play? he shot over 50% he may be channeling Burger king.. but not Bernard king... sorry bro.. not sure why that comparison keeps coming up....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/2/2013  1:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/2/2013  1:37 PM
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I will happily point to the fact we won three playoff games!

At least Melo plays in the playoffs, contrary to all those we traded away/let go.

Isn't that kind of irrelevant?

Say was lose in 7 and Denver loses in 6, you think that it matters?

Denver loses after winning 57 games might sting for its fans, but this ain't about them, its about Knicks.

Is it irrelevant to all the "All we've got to show for Melo is one playoff win" posts? The man shows up. Three years running. Melo don't need no fuhhucking percentages.

What's irrelevant is Denver. Denver is irrelevant. Gallo is irrelevant. Moz is irrelevant. I could say Wilson is irrelevant, but I don't have the ambition required to go look up his impact on their series so far.

I am a Knicks fan. I love our Starphuqched Mooby and all his bully ball killer quarters BK channeling talent. Beats the crap out of spending my life wondering how to pay Faried to stay in nowhere land. IMHO.

If its irrelevant, why keep bringing them up? A small sample of posters who do it.

If you measure the knicks against Denver, its relevant to you.

I don't even think that is correct nalod.. who is briging up those guys in knicks threads? other than those who are so bothered by the mention of their name?

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/2/2013  1:50 PM
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I will happily point to the fact we won three playoff games!

At least Melo plays in the playoffs, contrary to all those we traded away/let go.

Isn't that kind of irrelevant?

Say was lose in 7 and Denver loses in 6, you think that it matters?

Denver loses after winning 57 games might sting for its fans, but this ain't about them, its about Knicks.

Is it irrelevant to all the "All we've got to show for Melo is one playoff win" posts? The man shows up. Three years running. Melo don't need no fuhhucking percentages.

What's irrelevant is Denver. Denver is irrelevant. Gallo is irrelevant. Moz is irrelevant. I could say Wilson is irrelevant, but I don't have the ambition required to go look up his impact on their series so far.

I am a Knicks fan. I love our Starphuqched Mooby and all his bully ball killer quarters BK channeling talent. Beats the crap out of spending my life wondering how to pay Faried to stay in nowhere land. IMHO.

have you ever watched king play? he shot over 50% he may be channeling Burger king.. but not Bernard king... sorry bro.. not sure why that comparison keeps coming up....

Watched King several times, and watched both of the back to backs in their beautiful entirety. You don't see similarities or any basis for comparison because you're blinded watching Italy's brightest son.

Explain to me, even as a registered hater, who was the last bonafide scoring champion we had? I suppose you can remind me of lots of people on the knicks scoring 30-40 regularly? I forget...

Ease up tkf. Your personal demon hasn't blown the series yet.
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5/2/2013  2:03 PM
Nalod wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:If they blow this series,

you have to trade Melo for whatever you can get,

you fire Woodson and hire Mike Fratello,

you have to trade everyone

Basically you saying "panic"!

I'd say panic is a very appropriate response to what would be an unprecedented collapse in NBA history (no team has come back from 0-3). If we don't win the series I don't see how people can root for Melo anymore. Two seeds beat 7 seeds, that's the way it is. Blowing this series would be a CATASTROPHIC FAILURE that we could not live down until we won a championship, and even then the Knicks would forever be known as "that" team, the team that blew a 3-0 series lead. I haven't given up, there is still more basketball to be played, but I'm all for blowing it up if this year results in such historic incompetence.
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5/2/2013  2:28 PM
3G4G wrote:You tie a great millstone to this team and pitch it into the Hudson River and start over.

Would that force the N*yets to relocate to the Delaware River?
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5/2/2013  2:51 PM
Dagger wrote:
Nalod wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:If they blow this series,

you have to trade Melo for whatever you can get,

you fire Woodson and hire Mike Fratello,

you have to trade everyone

Basically you saying "panic"!

I'd say panic is a very appropriate response to what would be an unprecedented collapse in NBA history (no team has come back from 0-3). If we don't win the series I don't see how people can root for Melo anymore. Two seeds beat 7 seeds, that's the way it is. Blowing this series would be a CATASTROPHIC FAILURE that we could not live down until we won a championship, and even then the Knicks would forever be known as "that" team, the team that blew a 3-0 series lead. I haven't given up, there is still more basketball to be played, but I'm all for blowing it up if this year results in such historic incompetence.

Obviously, you're not a Yankee fan. Been there, done that. And guess what? I'm still a Yankee fan. The Yankees are still hated, an lo and behold, we went on to win another World Series, and Boston wound up with the Bobby Valentine's Day Fiasco in Team Mis-Management. See you in another 100 years.

Now, the Knicks are obviously not the Yankees, but please, typing CATASTROPHIC FAILURE doesn't mean the Knicks should all be exported to Turkey, and we should all start watching field hockey.

Things that would make you go Boom:
IT, and all that implies
Eddy Curry
Stephon Marbury
Larry Brown' roadside clown show
Not sniffing the playoffs
40 point losses
23 win seasons
Al Harrington single-handedly losing games by slapping backboards

Not things that make you go Boom:
Division lead, practically end to end
Division champ
2nd seed
Playoffs three years running
.300 to .600 ball
Interesting mix of weirdos, old folks and starphucques
Enough highlights to choke any number of Youtube [insert Knick] threads
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5/2/2013  2:51 PM
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I will happily point to the fact we won three playoff games!

At least Melo plays in the playoffs, contrary to all those we traded away/let go.

Isn't that kind of irrelevant?

Say was lose in 7 and Denver loses in 6, you think that it matters?

Denver loses after winning 57 games might sting for its fans, but this ain't about them, its about Knicks.

Is it irrelevant to all the "All we've got to show for Melo is one playoff win" posts? The man shows up. Three years running. Melo don't need no fuhhucking percentages.

What's irrelevant is Denver. Denver is irrelevant. Gallo is irrelevant. Moz is irrelevant. I could say Wilson is irrelevant, but I don't have the ambition required to go look up his impact on their series so far.

I am a Knicks fan. I love our Starphuqched Mooby and all his bully ball killer quarters BK channeling talent. Beats the crap out of spending my life wondering how to pay Faried to stay in nowhere land. IMHO.

have you ever watched king play? he shot over 50% he may be channeling Burger king.. but not Bernard king... sorry bro.. not sure why that comparison keeps coming up....

Watched King several times, and watched both of the back to backs in their beautiful entirety. You don't see similarities or any basis for comparison because you're blinded watching Italy's brightest son.

Explain to me, even as a registered hater, who was the last bonafide scoring champion we had? I suppose you can remind me of lots of people on the knicks scoring 30-40 regularly? I forget...

Ease up tkf. Your personal demon hasn't blown the series yet.

there is no comparison. bernard king was out of the league because of booze and god knows what else. he finally got the message and guess where he went: pete newell's big man's camp to work on his footwork. when he came back into the nba he was unstoppable because he had developed his footwork.

i have always criticized melo because his footwork is undeveloped. it holds him back truth be told. i had the same problem with ewing: undeveloped footwork held ewing back.

and speaking of truth, if you want to know what good footwork is, watch pierce play.

finally, guess where bron spent the summer? with newell's greatest student, hakeem.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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5/2/2013  2:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/2/2013  2:53 PM
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I will happily point to the fact we won three playoff games!

At least Melo plays in the playoffs, contrary to all those we traded away/let go.

Isn't that kind of irrelevant?

Say was lose in 7 and Denver loses in 6, you think that it matters?

Denver loses after winning 57 games might sting for its fans, but this ain't about them, its about Knicks.

Is it irrelevant to all the "All we've got to show for Melo is one playoff win" posts? The man shows up. Three years running. Melo don't need no fuhhucking percentages.

What's irrelevant is Denver. Denver is irrelevant. Gallo is irrelevant. Moz is irrelevant. I could say Wilson is irrelevant, but I don't have the ambition required to go look up his impact on their series so far.

I am a Knicks fan. I love our Starphuqched Mooby and all his bully ball killer quarters BK channeling talent. Beats the crap out of spending my life wondering how to pay Faried to stay in nowhere land. IMHO.

have you ever watched king play? he shot over 50% he may be channeling Burger king.. but not Bernard king... sorry bro.. not sure why that comparison keeps coming up....

Watched King several times, and watched both of the back to backs in their beautiful entirety. You don't see similarities or any basis for comparison because you're blinded watching Italy's brightest son.

Explain to me, even as a registered hater, who was the last bonafide scoring champion we had? I suppose you can remind me of lots of people on the knicks scoring 30-40 regularly? I forget...

Ease up tkf. Your personal demon hasn't blown the series yet.


don't you see where your problem is.. you are more concerned with me liking gallo than trying to make a valid point... he is nothing like Bernard king.. and I watched king a bit more than several times... believe me, there is nothing similar between a guy who ran the wing better than any forward, who had a unstoppable turnaround jumper and shot over 50% and a guy who is a ball stopping, jab stepping volume chucker.. who doesn't even get the respect from bench players around the league... sorry.. I don't see any similarities...

who was the last bonafide scoring champion we had?

as a so called KNICK fan, why would that matter? we haven't won a title in 40 years, that is more important than some chucker who shoots low 40% and doesn't defend or pass... it is empty.. taking 35 shots to get 35 points.. if that floats your boat, then fine... but As knick fans, we should strive for more than that.. hero worship leave very little room for objectivity bro....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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5/2/2013  2:59 PM
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I will happily point to the fact we won three playoff games!

At least Melo plays in the playoffs, contrary to all those we traded away/let go.

Isn't that kind of irrelevant?

Say was lose in 7 and Denver loses in 6, you think that it matters?

Denver loses after winning 57 games might sting for its fans, but this ain't about them, its about Knicks.

Is it irrelevant to all the "All we've got to show for Melo is one playoff win" posts? The man shows up. Three years running. Melo don't need no fuhhucking percentages.

What's irrelevant is Denver. Denver is irrelevant. Gallo is irrelevant. Moz is irrelevant. I could say Wilson is irrelevant, but I don't have the ambition required to go look up his impact on their series so far.

I am a Knicks fan. I love our Starphuqched Mooby and all his bully ball killer quarters BK channeling talent. Beats the crap out of spending my life wondering how to pay Faried to stay in nowhere land. IMHO.

have you ever watched king play? he shot over 50% he may be channeling Burger king.. but not Bernard king... sorry bro.. not sure why that comparison keeps coming up....

Watched King several times, and watched both of the back to backs in their beautiful entirety. You don't see similarities or any basis for comparison because you're blinded watching Italy's brightest son.

Explain to me, even as a registered hater, who was the last bonafide scoring champion we had? I suppose you can remind me of lots of people on the knicks scoring 30-40 regularly? I forget...

Ease up tkf. Your personal demon hasn't blown the series yet.


don't you see where your problem is.. you are more concerned with me liking gallo than trying to make a valid point... he is nothing like Bernard king

who was the last bonafide scoring champion we had?

as a so called KNICK fan, why would that matter? we haven't won a title in 40 years, that is more important than some chucker who shoots low 40% and doesn't defend or pass... it is empty.. taking 35 shots to get 35 points.. if that floats your boat, then fine... but As knick fans, we should strive for more than that.. hero worship leave very little room for objectivity bro....

Hate leaves very little objectivity, either buddy.
How many chips did BK win? WTF are you talking about? Striving requirements? Shooting %? And your buddy's over there giving dance lessons in the other response.

Rather than completely change the subject, why don't you respond to the points I made?

The valid topic is comparison to BK. The valid points would be, where are the two players comparable as Knicks. Stick to the topic, you'll live longer.
Scoring champion.
Prolific scorer.
Tremendous finisher.
Bona fide star.
#1 option for the team.

Dispute them please. Then you might start making sense.
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