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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
![]() Genuine question- did KG get suspended for these elbows to the face:
Elbows Mario Chalmers in the face Elbows Bogut in the face Elbows Kardashian in the face: Elbows Q-Rich in the face: Think he did for the last one, but it was an off the court altercation, so I don't know if that made it more severe. |
VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
![]() I don't know if KG was suspended but those aren't comparable situations. In the 1st video it's in the context of fighting for a rebound which is a pretty time-honored tradition in basketball. The 2nd and 3rd videos are not anywhere nearly as violent as JR's. I think you're right about the 4th one and him getting suspended and that might have had more to do with them spilling into the crowd; the NBA has been completely paranoid about that stuff ever since the Artest melee.
Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
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NYDiva
Posts: 21168 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/14/2012 Member: #4387 |
![]() Yeah, I had a bad feeling about that play as soon as it went down. I think the league will look to suspend him. (I think it would be an overreaction by the NBA, but I'm a 90s baby. This would have been a technical back in the day IMO. Totally different league now.)
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33483 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
![]() The reaction of Doc Rivers is priceless: absolutely mute on the obvious Terry foul and explodes on the J.R. swing. And watching the other KG elbow attacks and Rivers' reaction, these guys are simply a-hole clowns.
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
![]() smackeddog wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:playa2 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote: I agree. It's understandable. I just wouldn't try to spin it as a good thing. |
Nalod
Posts: 71305 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
![]() Sending a message? Knicks been working on not whining and responding with emotion. Sending a message? "We will react to your foolishness!" No messages but the final score of the game. Thats the only message. We can only succeed by being mentally tougher than our opponent. Celtics are getting creamed and teams will resort to low tactics to try to turn the tide. Knicks donn't need to take the bait. JR's tats did not elbow JT, His inflated pride did. Just win baby! |
joec32033
Posts: 30612 Alba Posts: 37 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #583 USA |
![]() Not to make this like the second gunman on the grassy knoll, but to me it looks like the hard swipe from Terry accidentally may have caught somewhere near the nuts/groin area, possibly lower abdomen. Looks to me like Terry got caught solid in the chest, not the saw and suddenly developed a case of spontaneous whiplash after he leaned back and well after the ball was above JR's head and there was about a foot or two worth of space between his face and Smith's elbow.
It was a solid, on purpose elbow though. A fine should be the extent. I've seen guys rebound the ball, stick out them elbows, and turn side to side like a freaking dog drying off and those have been much more dangerous and violent and would do a lot more damage if they connected. ~You can't run from who you are.~
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
![]() joec32033 wrote:Not to make this like the second gunman on the grassy knoll, but to me it looks like the hard swipe from Terry accidentally may have caught somewhere near the nuts/groin area, possibly lower abdomen. Looks to me like Terry got caught solid in the chest, not the saw and suddenly developed a case of spontaneous whiplash after he leaned back and well after the ball was above JR's head and there was about a foot or two worth of space between his face and Smith's elbow. Check 40 seconds in, Terry clearly got nailed in the face/chin. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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Markji
Posts: 22753 Alba Posts: -4 Joined: 9/14/2007 Member: #1673 USA |
![]() First - JR's foul does not warrant a suspension. An ejection and fine is plenty. Terry gets hit but not that hard and then flops.
Second, Terry whacks JR across the arm and/or stomach and no foul is called. Refs, where were you? You could have stopped this before it started.
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
![]() VCoug wrote: Terry got hit , but he flopped too. He only came back at J.R because he got dissed on National TV again. He got embarrassed , that's why he jumped up. What clip are you watching ? If you notice after he's hit, he takes two steps back(he has his balance) and then he drops like a fat women sat on his chest. In other words he made it look worst than what it was, because if J.R would have connected cleanly, Terry wouldn't have got up so fast. LIKE THIS !
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matt
Posts: 22259 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 11/5/2003 Member: #487 USA |
![]() Ahh.. **** Jason Terry and the Celtics
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joec32033
Posts: 30612 Alba Posts: 37 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #583 USA |
![]() VCoug wrote:joec32033 wrote:Not to make this like the second gunman on the grassy knoll, but to me it looks like the hard swipe from Terry accidentally may have caught somewhere near the nuts/groin area, possibly lower abdomen. Looks to me like Terry got caught solid in the chest, not the saw and suddenly developed a case of spontaneous whiplash after he leaned back and well after the ball was above JR's head and there was about a foot or two worth of space between his face and Smith's elbow. I watched it. His chest gets a brunt of the hit and it looks like a glancing blow to his chin. His head never snaps back until the ball his above JR's head. ~You can't run from who you are.~
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NYDiva
Posts: 21168 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/14/2012 Member: #4387 |
![]() Markji wrote:First - JR's foul does not warrant a suspension. An ejection and fine is plenty. Terry gets hit but not that hard and then flops. I agree that it does not warrant a suspension but that doesn't mean the league won't suspend him. If you catch my drift. Guess we'll see what happens. |
Silverfuel
Posts: 31750 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 6/27/2002 Member: #268 USA |
![]() Any word on JR's status for game 4?
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33483 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
![]() Silverfuel wrote:Any word on JR's status for game 4? Last I read J.R. was preparing like he was playing. Knicks_Fan
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ToddTT
Posts: 30617 Alba Posts: 53 Joined: 8/30/2001 Member: #105 |
![]() It was clearly not a big deal. And if it's taking them this long to decide, I'm hoping that means they have come to the same conclusion.
Fine Terry for flopping and call it a day. Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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Markji
Posts: 22753 Alba Posts: -4 Joined: 9/14/2007 Member: #1673 USA |
![]() NYDiva wrote:Markji wrote:First - JR's foul does not warrant a suspension. An ejection and fine is plenty. Terry gets hit but not that hard and then flops. I wonder if the league, privately, doesn't want the Knicks to sweep. The TV viewership is high and also more attendance at the arenas. The distribution of foul shots 18 for the Celtics; only 8 foul shots for the Knicks, is way too lopsided. The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
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NYDiva
Posts: 21168 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/14/2012 Member: #4387 |
![]() And THAT is what I think is taking them so long to decide. They know this doesn't really warrant a suspension, but they want to extend the series and up the revenue from it. So they're wondering if they can "get away with" suspending the 6th Man of the Year w/o an uproar occurring.
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Clean
Posts: 30331 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/22/2004 Member: #743 |
![]() No JR for game 4 it looks like.
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