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ChuckBuck
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4/10/2013  2:38 PM
Can't believe guys find it hard to root for a team after a decade plus of these a$sholes:
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4/10/2013  2:41 PM

Look at your fingers, there won't be a ring on it, or a contract extension to sign, or any money. Your self esteem won't be elevated unless you want it too, but thats lame.

but now IM a man, I walk like a man, look like a man and I don't have sports idols. I have respect and admiration for those who have achieved greatness or perform at a very high level. I admire the talent of Melo and the season he has had. This franchise has been so poorly run for so many years just plain fun to watch this team.

No Mooby jersey on my back, no bumper stickers or banners in my office. Watch 50 games a year. Talk about the ones I see, not the ones I read.

Knicks are my team but if I could change that I would have by now.

Im hoping for a great post season ride! If not, I'll get over it.

Just like the last 40 seasons.
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4/10/2013  2:42 PM
dk7th wrote:when they cool off they will be relying on home court and a 17th ranked defense to pull them through. that may work against the celtics but in the second round...

the celtics worry me.... they have one thing we don't.... other than pierce..... and that is Poise....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/10/2013  2:46 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:Can't believe guys find it hard to root for a team after a decade plus of these a$sholes:


I think some really enjoy those days, judging by the posts i read, if not, they certainly deserved that garbage.
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4/10/2013  2:53 PM
IMO the Knicks are going to be a hard team to beat over a 7 game series.
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4/10/2013  4:20 PM
dk7th wrote:when they cool off they will be relying on home court and a 17th ranked defense to pull them through. that may work against the celtics but in the second round...

I think the first time they cooled off had a lot to do with Howard's extremely hard foul on Anthony. Melo seems to have finally recovered. Hopefully career threatening fouls are policed in the playoffs and that doesn't happen again.
My only concern is the health of the bigs. If the Knicks have Martin and Tyson healthy and can get contributions from Thomas, sheed, and or Camby I think they will have a great playoff run.

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4/10/2013  4:29 PM
I don't understand the doubts and fears. Over an 82 game season one thing we can be sure of is that they are what they have been all season. This is mostly an offensive team that has the ability to play some of the most potent offense in the league when it's moving the ball and hitting 3's and taking it to the basket like we have to end the season. That to me is what this team is and it's gonna be up to the teams we play to find a way to stop us. More than any other team NY has a STYLE that other teams have to worry about. Basically MDA was right, LOL Other teams have to adjust to us!!!! NY and MIA are two of the best examples of the smaller team, spread the floor approach. We can see now after having KMart that having a PF who can really move and defend can be highly effective over a slow big Center in this style of BB. One of the most deadly weapons is the Stretch 4. Despite what many think of taking a ton of 3's like the Suns used to, it's a very efficient style if you have good shooters, ball and player movement and can mix that up with great ISO players too. This team is #3 in the league in offensive efficiency and during the streak we're top in the league.

Think about what we do to other teams defenses. We spread them out and force them to play us on the perimeter. We have so much 3pt shooting as opposed to last year when we took a lot but didn't have the shooters to really make teams pay. Now we actually do have the shooters and ball movers to make it work. We also have great ISO scorers in Melo and JR. and even Cope. The spread floor makes it easier for them to get 1 on 1 match ups with space. PnR players with Prigs, Felton, Chandler n Cope. So basically teams have no real idea what they can do to slow us down if we're hitting shots from the perimeter. Kidd and Shump have gotten their groove back and that makes us even harder to deal with cuz they just fill in the gaps and make smart plays and 3's when we need it. This team is legit. The only thing we need is to get healthy with our bigs. We've got a week to do that and hopefully that is enough.
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4/10/2013  4:31 PM
LOL you sure have a way with pictures Chuck!
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4/10/2013  4:33 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:when they cool off they will be relying on home court and a 17th ranked defense to pull them through. that may work against the celtics but in the second round...

I think the first time they cooled off had a lot to do with Howard's extremely hard foul on Anthony. Melo seems to have finally recovered. Hopefully career threatening fouls are policed in the playoffs and that doesn't happen again.
My only concern is the health of the bigs. If the Knicks have Martin and Tyson healthy and can get contributions from Thomas, sheed, and or Camby I think they will have a great playoff run.

they will have home court for the 1st 2 rounds which is a plus.
having chandler healthy is vital but losing martin is very tough. he's been a good pickup for us.
sheed and camby are afterthoughts at this point but thomas can give you 8-10 minutes a night ion a grinding series although i don't foresee him being needed either.

i just don't believe that melo can keep up this level of shooting although his passing game has morphed into something dirkish which frankly is huge. smith remaining hot defies the odds too.

i like the knicks chances of making the ECF... so long as they don't sustain another injury.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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4/10/2013  5:33 PM
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:when they cool off they will be relying on home court and a 17th ranked defense to pull them through. that may work against the celtics but in the second round...

I think the first time they cooled off had a lot to do with Howard's extremely hard foul on Anthony. Melo seems to have finally recovered. Hopefully career threatening fouls are policed in the playoffs and that doesn't happen again.
My only concern is the health of the bigs. If the Knicks have Martin and Tyson healthy and can get contributions from Thomas, sheed, and or Camby I think they will have a great playoff run.

they will have home court for the 1st 2 rounds which is a plus.
having chandler healthy is vital but losing martin is very tough. he's been a good pickup for us.
sheed and camby are afterthoughts at this point but thomas can give you 8-10 minutes a night ion a grinding series although i don't foresee him being needed either.

i just don't believe that melo can keep up this level of shooting although his passing game has morphed into something dirkish which frankly is huge. smith remaining hot defies the odds too.

i like the knicks chances of making the ECF... so long as they don't sustain another injury.

We need Chandler and Kenyon should be available for the playoffs unless it's more than a sprain as has been reported.

No denying that Melo is playing at another level right now and it will be fools gold to think he'll stay this way throughout the playoffs he's the least of my worries. We NEED JR to keep up his level of play which is what has me worried. My hope is that Shump continues to improve (work his way back) and gets hot at the right time.

I'm with you! Barring injuries I see the ECF in our future.

Blue & Orange 4 Life!
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4/10/2013  5:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2013  5:55 PM
SFX: fade out

And now...

(Optimistic health projections aside. Until further notice or sudden recovery...)

... here is the starting lineup for your New York Knicks in the first round of the playoffs....

At Guard, via and the Argentinian Olympic Team, he shoots less than another number 9... (Rick Brunson) number 9 Pab-looo Pree-gee-oni

At the other Guard, from the University of North Carolina where he won the whole enchilada, scrappy number 2..Ray-mond Felton

At third guard, from Georgia Tech, rocking the high top fade with the former adidas logo triangular empty space, number 21... I Man Shum-pert

The other Forward, from Brooklyn via West Baltimore via Syracuse, the man with the scalding hot hand, number 7... Car-melo Ann-tho-knee

And at Center, from the University of Colorado and a bunch of places you never heard of, number 14... Chris Cope-land

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4/10/2013  6:30 PM
U cant trust the team because even when they are playing their best BB in a decade the whole front court is injured after a whole season worth of front court players already have been injured.This team has no luck it can never be all good. We are being set up for a disaster
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4/10/2013  6:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/10/2013  7:18 PM
The Poseidon Adventure

Jmpasq wrote:U cant trust the team because even when they are playing their best BB in a decade the whole front court is injured after a whole season worth of front court players already have been injured. This team has no luck it can never be all good. We are being set up for a disaster

The disaster has already struck. We have been hit by a tidal wave of injuries to our entire front court.

We are surviving on the insane productivity of an all star playing the best ball of his career. He is attracting so much attention, in double and triple teams. that his running buddies are getting more open looks. As a result, our shooting percentage has improved. Last night, six guys in double figures. To be certain, it was the Wizards, still, a positive sign.

We are winning with veteran poise, under a demanding coach who does not tolerate defensive mental lapses.

What's luck got to do with it?

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4/10/2013  8:10 PM
Papabear Says

Look we have some serious injuries on this team. I fear the Celtics in the first round more that I fear winning the second round who ever we play. I hope someone take out the Nets in the first round. Our Bigs are banged up. I believe what happened to Martin was the fear of other teams and thats why he was a last minute choice. If we don't make it to the finals I will be hurt. But life moves on and so will the knicks. The Celtics will be ready for us and Melo can't do it by himself.
The biggest mistake that we made going into the playoffs is Waiting for Sheed, Thomas and Camby. We should have cut our losses and grabed some other healthy bigs to play in the playoffs.

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4/11/2013  1:13 PM
NYKBocker wrote:I am still not excited about what is going on, but they have peeked my interest again....a little.

Still not watching full games and just follow via UK and stats.

I hope things will change in the playoffs for me.

I am in this same boat, watched 2 games this year, maybe 5 total since Melo/Woodson came to town,

overall, just an ugly team to watch and very difficult to root for, that's the boat that I'm floating in,

do you remember Linsanity, that was the last time that I would run home from work with joy in my heart, excited to watch the game, to see our Knicks play BASKETBALL, giving the business to the league

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4/11/2013  1:15 PM
misterearl wrote:Trust

IronWillGiroud wrote:It is the same with people,

men that fluctuate between extremes cannot be trusted,

this team goes from hot balls streak, then the death of the world, then back on top of the golden ball,

they do not understand the value of the middle ground, they are unable to work in a balanced state,

and in the playoffs, in the quest for the championship, it's the works you create from your balance that translate to the big prize,

without a middle, this team will face a difficult challenge and they will fall to an extreme; keep in mind that the bottom of the barrel is more realistic than to catch the fire balls again.

Can't Trust It

IronWillGiroud - Why even bother putting your self through the trauma of any less than a championship season?

There are many other ways to be entertained that are much more predictable. Trusting a team to win a championship, or win every game, smack of entitlement. There are no guarantees. Carmelo could catch a finger on his shooting hand while closing his car door. All you can do is take one day at a time.

men that fluctuate between extremes cannot be trusted,

Does that mean that winning 51 games and the 13 game streak is gold for fools?

Cool. Sign me up.

Yes, all very good for some team in middle states or maybe northwest smaller market,

Boston, Los Angeles put up championships on the reg! New York is in this same very big ship, yet we are supposed to be happy with some petty 51 win season,

bring the noise in the playoffs, come correct and bring us ECF at least, then we can be happy people this season,

This is New York, misterearl, it's a different level,

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4/11/2013  1:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/11/2013  1:24 PM
Ugly Team To Watch, Or Not Watch?


IronWillGiroud wrote:watched 2 games this year, maybe 5 total since Melo/Woodson came to town,

Valid reason not to watch. A retread coach and a retread player from West Baltimore

IronWillGiroud wrote:overall, just an ugly team to watch and very difficult to root for, that's the boat that I'm floating in,

"watched 2 games this year, maybe 5 total since Melo/Woodson came to town," You just proudly stated you do not watch Knick games, how do you confirm they are ugly?

IronWillGiroud wrote:do you remember Linsanity?

You talking about the ugly night that Miami abused Lin (1-11 and 8 turnovers), the night Deron Williams abused him for 38 points and 6 assists... or the time he decided that 80 per cent wasn't healthy enough to show up for a playoff game?

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4/11/2013  1:24 PM
misterearl wrote:Ugly Team To Watch, Or Not Watch?


IronWillGiroud wrote:watched 2 games this year, maybe 5 total since Melo/Woodson came to town,

Valid reason not to watch. A retread coach and a retread player from West Baltimore

IronWillGiroud wrote:overall, just an ugly team to watch and very difficult to root for, that's the boat that I'm floating in,

"watched 2 games this year, maybe 5 total since Melo/Woodson came to town," You just proudly stated you do not watch Knick games, how do you confirm they are ugly?

IronWillGiroud wrote:do you remember Linsanity?

You talking about the ugly night that Miami abused Lin, the night Deron Williams abused him or the time he decided that 80 per cent wasn't healthy enough to show up for a playoff game?

talking about when Young Jeremy Lin dropped buckets and 8 billion people on the planet were rooting for our team,

I watch 5 games, enough, you know how this team plays, not something I can stomach

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4/11/2013  1:27 PM
IronWillGiroud - why do you waste your time writing about something you obviously despise?

just curious.

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4/11/2013  1:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/11/2013  1:31 PM
8 billion?

talking about when Young Jeremy Lin dropped buckets and 8 billion people on the planet were rooting for our team,

Young Jeremy Lin? Not to be confused with the older, saavy veteran Jeremy Lin?

Cool.

where do these 8 billion people live exactly?

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