VCoug wrote:No, and it's not even close. The only way Lebron might not win his 4th MVP in 5 years is if he sits out most of the rest of the season and Durant goes on a tear and OKC finishes 1st in the West. No one else is even in the discussion.

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:No, and it's not even close. The only way Lebron might not win his 4th MVP in 5 years is if he sits out most of the rest of the season and Durant goes on a tear and OKC finishes 1st in the West. No one else is even in the discussion.

I don't think that would be enough. Lebron would have to play and have a lot of 0 for 10 shooting nights!

I don't think so either but it's the only realistic scenario I could think of where we end up with a different MVP than Lebron.

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:No, and it's not even close. The only way Lebron might not win his 4th MVP in 5 years is if he sits out most of the rest of the season and Durant goes on a tear and OKC finishes 1st in the West. No one else is even in the discussion.

I don't think that would be enough. Lebron would have to play and have a lot of 0 for 10 shooting nights!

Papabear Says

Look at it this way. If Lebron was on the Knicks with the same team we have now and Melo was on the Heat what would be Lebron's chances of winning a ring and then what would Melo's chances be with the heat with Wade and Bosh???
You see so if Melo brings the Knicks close out season with the Knicks responding well it would mean Melo took a team with less talent than the Heat and put them on his back and made his game and thier game better.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:No, and it's not even close. The only way Lebron might not win his 4th MVP in 5 years is if he sits out most of the rest of the season and Durant goes on a tear and OKC finishes 1st in the West. No one else is even in the discussion.

I don't think that would be enough. Lebron would have to play and have a lot of 0 for 10 shooting nights!

Papabear Says

Look at it this way. If Lebron was on the Knicks with the same team we have now and Melo was on the Heat what would be Lebron's chances of winning a ring and then what would Melo's chances be with the heat with Wade and Bosh???
You see so if Melo brings the Knicks close out season with the Knicks responding well it would mean Melo took a team with less talent than the Heat and put them on his back and made his game and thier game better.

If that happened, I believe the Knicks would be the front-runners to win the championship and the Heat would be about a .600 team. It would be a dream come true for us.

The heat would be a juggernaut, and still be the favorite over us. Lebron without another superstar is not the same lebron we see today.

VCoug wrote:

Dagger wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:No, and it's not even close. The only way Lebron might not win his 4th MVP in 5 years is if he sits out most of the rest of the season and Durant goes on a tear and OKC finishes 1st in the West. No one else is even in the discussion.

I don't think that would be enough. Lebron would have to play and have a lot of 0 for 10 shooting nights!

Papabear Says

Look at it this way. If Lebron was on the Knicks with the same team we have now and Melo was on the Heat what would be Lebron's chances of winning a ring and then what would Melo's chances be with the heat with Wade and Bosh???
You see so if Melo brings the Knicks close out season with the Knicks responding well it would mean Melo took a team with less talent than the Heat and put them on his back and made his game and thier game better.

If that happened, I believe the Knicks would be the front-runners to win the championship and the Heat would be about a .600 team. It would be a dream come true for us.

The heat would be a juggernaut, and still be the favorite over us. Lebron without another superstar is not the same lebron we see today.

Yeah, those 2 MVPs he won in Cleveland and carrying a terrible, terrible Cleveland team to a Finals appearance was, what, luck?

+1. I don't know where Dagger is getting this belief from. Here Lebron would have an all-star center and some very good role players.

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Dagger wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:No, and it's not even close. The only way Lebron might not win his 4th MVP in 5 years is if he sits out most of the rest of the season and Durant goes on a tear and OKC finishes 1st in the West. No one else is even in the discussion.

I don't think that would be enough. Lebron would have to play and have a lot of 0 for 10 shooting nights!

Papabear Says

Look at it this way. If Lebron was on the Knicks with the same team we have now and Melo was on the Heat what would be Lebron's chances of winning a ring and then what would Melo's chances be with the heat with Wade and Bosh???
You see so if Melo brings the Knicks close out season with the Knicks responding well it would mean Melo took a team with less talent than the Heat and put them on his back and made his game and thier game better.

If that happened, I believe the Knicks would be the front-runners to win the championship and the Heat would be about a .600 team. It would be a dream come true for us.

The heat would be a juggernaut, and still be the favorite over us. Lebron without another superstar is not the same lebron we see today.

Yeah, those 2 MVPs he won in Cleveland and carrying a terrible, terrible Cleveland team to a Finals appearance was, what, luck?

+1. I don't know where Dagger is getting this belief from. Here Lebron would have an all-star center and some very good role players.

Papabear Says

Yes an allstar center who can't shoot. Who would you want Bosh or Chandler?? Wake the hell up!! Lebron is winning because of the team he has around him. That starting 5 in Miami would be starting for any team in the league. But the Knick only have 1 and that is Chandler. So don't try and play me! Ask Lebron who would he like to have. Some of you guys will say anything even if you know it a lie. You know Damn well the Heat's starting lineup is better than ours. If my man Melo Takes this team to the finals he is the MVP hands down. Stop trying to play me that we have players better than Wade and Bosh. Hell just them without Lebron is a very good team, Now don't get me wrong I love my Knicks just the way they are.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Dagger wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:No, and it's not even close. The only way Lebron might not win his 4th MVP in 5 years is if he sits out most of the rest of the season and Durant goes on a tear and OKC finishes 1st in the West. No one else is even in the discussion.

I don't think that would be enough. Lebron would have to play and have a lot of 0 for 10 shooting nights!

Papabear Says

Look at it this way. If Lebron was on the Knicks with the same team we have now and Melo was on the Heat what would be Lebron's chances of winning a ring and then what would Melo's chances be with the heat with Wade and Bosh???
You see so if Melo brings the Knicks close out season with the Knicks responding well it would mean Melo took a team with less talent than the Heat and put them on his back and made his game and thier game better.

If that happened, I believe the Knicks would be the front-runners to win the championship and the Heat would be about a .600 team. It would be a dream come true for us.

The heat would be a juggernaut, and still be the favorite over us. Lebron without another superstar is not the same lebron we see today.

Yeah, those 2 MVPs he won in Cleveland and carrying a terrible, terrible Cleveland team to a Finals appearance was, what, luck?

+1. I don't know where Dagger is getting this belief from. Here Lebron would have an all-star center and some very good role players.

Papabear Says

Yes an allstar center who can't shoot. Who would you want Bosh or Chandler?? Wake the hell up!! Lebron is winning because of the team he has around him. That starting 5 in Miami would be starting for any team in the league. But the Knick only have 1 and that is Chandler. So don't try and play me! Ask Lebron who would he like to have. Some of you guys will say anything even if you know it a lie. You know Damn well the Heat's starting lineup is better than ours. If my man Melo Takes this team to the finals he is the MVP hands down. Stop trying to play me that that we have players better than Wade and Bosh. Hell just them without Lebron is a very good team,

I never said the Knicks' starting lineup was better than the Heat's. Don't put words in my mouth.

Papabear Says

Not putting words in your mouth but just maybe on the Heat's Championship there should be an asterisk saying Three allstars secretly made a pac to join the same team to win it all.

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Dagger wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:No, and it's not even close. The only way Lebron might not win his 4th MVP in 5 years is if he sits out most of the rest of the season and Durant goes on a tear and OKC finishes 1st in the West. No one else is even in the discussion.

I don't think that would be enough. Lebron would have to play and have a lot of 0 for 10 shooting nights!

Papabear Says

Look at it this way. If Lebron was on the Knicks with the same team we have now and Melo was on the Heat what would be Lebron's chances of winning a ring and then what would Melo's chances be with the heat with Wade and Bosh???
You see so if Melo brings the Knicks close out season with the Knicks responding well it would mean Melo took a team with less talent than the Heat and put them on his back and made his game and thier game better.

If that happened, I believe the Knicks would be the front-runners to win the championship and the Heat would be about a .600 team. It would be a dream come true for us.

The heat would be a juggernaut, and still be the favorite over us. Lebron without another superstar is not the same lebron we see today.

Yeah, those 2 MVPs he won in Cleveland and carrying a terrible, terrible Cleveland team to a Finals appearance was, what, luck?

+1. I don't know where Dagger is getting this belief from. Here Lebron would have an all-star center and some very good role players.

Papabear Says

Yes an allstar center who can't shoot. Who would you want Bosh or Chandler?? Wake the hell up!! Lebron is winning because of the team he has around him. That starting 5 in Miami would be starting for any team in the league. But the Knick only have 1 and that is Chandler. So don't try and play me! Ask Lebron who would he like to have. Some of you guys will say anything even if you know it a lie. You know Damn well the Heat's starting lineup is better than ours. If my man Melo Takes this team to the finals he is the MVP hands down. Stop trying to play me that that we have players better than Wade and Bosh. Hell just them without Lebron is a very good team,

I never said the Knicks' starting lineup was better than the Heat's. Don't put words in my mouth.

Papabear Says

Not putting words in your mouth but just maybe on the Heat's Championship there should be an asterisk saying Three allstars secretly made a pac to join the same team to win it all.

Which has nothing to do with the MVP.

Bonn1997 wrote:I try to find the best colleagues to work with too.
I'm disappointed the Knicks didn't build a strong enough roster to attract stars. I wish we were the place they chose to team up at.

Papabear Says

Yea They stacked the deck and they are not colleagues they are basketball superstars. Know the difference. It could be insider trading.

Walsh tried. Remember we had a fire sale to get rid of players like Zach and Crawford and others thinking that LeBron was coming to New York with LeCon saying stuff like it would be nice to play in New York and wearing Yankees Hats and playing us like an off key piano. He should has said he had no plans of coming to New York and we had no chance of getting him. But no we was suckered So screw him and now we have Melo at least he was willing to come to New York.

However, if he continues to shoot well & rebounds the way he did last night throughout the playoffs, I'll take that over any MVP.

Bonn1997 wrote:I try to find the best colleagues to work with too.
I'm disappointed the Knicks didn't build a strong enough roster to attract stars. I wish we were the place they chose to team up at.

They got rid of their roster and assets to acquire stars. They don't have any cap space to sign guys that are stars. They have attracted some good vets, jr, Kmart, brewer and Tyson.