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4/1/2013  8:29 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/1/2013  8:31 AM
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TeamBall wrote:Whats Tysons status anyway?

Well need him in the playoffs--but next year we have to get rid of that bloated salary--hes not worth 14mm. We could cut that up and make a better team.

Agreed. Regardless if its been bc of JRs hot play, the weak schedule, playing Prigioni or KMart amazing play this definitely has to and probably can happen. I realize everyone loves Chandler but he's not worth that contract and Amar'e isn't going anywhere with his uninsured contract.

JR has the opt out (is this correct?) and he would probably wanna stay if he had his deal restructured and we could also resign Kmart and maybe another big w that room. I would think a handful of squads would consider taking on Chandler in a swap. Question is could it free up the room to make the above resignings after a deal?
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4/1/2013  8:40 AM
since tyson went down weve been playing bad teams
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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4/1/2013  8:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/1/2013  8:52 AM
Cartman718 wrote:kmart runs the floor better, and finishes at the rim better (gulp) than chandler. why wouldn't we want to keep him in the starting lineup. we are running and gunning on offense and still versatile enough on defense.

with chandler on the floor, every time there is a SG and Center pick n roll switch, chandler will get crossed over for a layup and kmart wont.
on offense, kmart actually has a jump shot (albeit ugly).

is there anything on offense that chandler does that kmart doesn't do?


Is that a serious question? He leads the league in offensive rebounds per game (and field goal percentage)
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4/1/2013  9:03 AM
Confusin' and Amusin'

Conflict, conflict, who's got the potential conflict?

Melo and Amare can't coexist? Done; get well soon, Stat.
Melo and JR can't coexist? Why, hello! 8 game win streak! And just look who's been scoring more points!
Melo and KMart? Not even a thread topic.

What what what what now?

Tyson and KMart? Of course, the coexistence issue of the new millenium!

Are we really starting KMart at the make-believe 5 if Tyson is healthy this whole time?

Tyson
KMart
Melo (back where I belong)
Felton
Prigs

The New Old Shump and JR off the bench. Nice.

Woody say: Release the hounds!
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4/1/2013  9:26 AM
Our opponents during this winning streak are a combined 247-330.
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4/1/2013  9:29 AM
i agree with bonn. i cant go by this streak since its not against good teams
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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4/1/2013  10:30 AM
Memphis is preety damn good. Knicks could be losing to these teams justvas easily. A win is a win. We will find out how this starting unit fairs tomorrow vs Miami who right now are playing at their best. Even if knicks lose I want to see them at least go toe to toe so Ibcan feel good about the ECF
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4/1/2013  10:30 AM
Jazz, Celtics and Grizz are good teams, and count for 4 of the wins, all achieved while we've been short handed. But yeah, because we're not called the Denver Nuggets, nothing we do warrants any praise or acknowledgement...
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4/1/2013  10:36 AM
I can't complain with how the team is playing now. When things weren't going well I spoke of them. But now there are a few things happening. JR is taking the ball inside with regularity, not to mention rebounding the ball. KMart is just playing great. Shump is playing MUCH better than earlier in his comeback. Prigs is a starter and is allowing Felton to play off the ball and of course Prigs is making things flow out there.

We are a much different team since Chandler went down, a much better team. If he comes back shortly, we'll still have a little time to play with the lineup and see how things go. Unfortunately, Woody is probably going to go right back to the lineup he had with Chandler...

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4/1/2013  10:40 AM
I agree with Bonn. It would mean more if we had lost the games against the poor teams.
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4/1/2013  10:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/1/2013  10:41 AM
smackeddog wrote:Jazz, Celtics and Grizz are good teams, and count for 4 of the wins, all achieved while we've been short handed. But yeah, because we're not called the Denver Nuggets, nothing we do warrants any praise or acknowledgement...

247-330 speaks for itself. When your toughest opponents are barely .500, you're in a very light stretch.
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4/1/2013  10:53 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/1/2013  10:53 AM
smackeddog wrote:Jazz, Celtics and Grizz are good teams, and count for 4 of the wins, all achieved while we've been short handed. But yeah, because we're not called the Denver Nuggets, nothing we do warrants any praise or acknowledgement...

The Jazz and the Celtics aren't good teams. The Jazz are only 38-36 and are sitting at 8th in the West while Boston is only 38-35 and is missing their 2 best players. I'm happy that we're finally winning games on a regular basis again but I still have serious doubts that we can even make it out of the 2nd round let alone compete for a championship. 7 games isn't going to erase everything that happened from 12/15 through 3/17.

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4/1/2013  11:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/1/2013  11:40 AM
What happened from 12/15 through 3/17, Stays in 12/15 through 3/17

VCoug wrote:
The Jazz and the Celtics aren't good teams. The Jazz are only 38-36 and are sitting at 8th in the West while Boston is only 38-35 and is missing their 2 best players. I'm happy that we're finally winning games on a regular basis again but I still have serious doubts that we can even make it out of the 2nd round let alone compete for a championship. 7 games isn't going to erase everything that happened from 12/15 through 3/17.

The March schedule was a brutal one for the Knicks. Eighteen games. Ten on the road. A five-game West Coast trip. Six back-to-backs. But they came out of it just fine, as they went 12-6 in the month - their highest win total since March 1994, when they finished 14-0.

Will nine in a row matter at all?

Does anything matter, aside from putting petty complaints on a pedestal, in the middle of a winning streak?

Nah. These are the Knicks. They always find a way to break your (chicken-liver sized) heart.

Yeah right.

once a knick always a knick
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4/1/2013  11:45 AM
misterearl wrote:What happened from 12/15 through 3/17, Stays in 12/15 through 3/17

VCoug wrote:
The Jazz and the Celtics aren't good teams. The Jazz are only 38-36 and are sitting at 8th in the West while Boston is only 38-35 and is missing their 2 best players. I'm happy that we're finally winning games on a regular basis again but I still have serious doubts that we can even make it out of the 2nd round let alone compete for a championship. 7 games isn't going to erase everything that happened from 12/15 through 3/17.

The March schedule was a brutal one for the Knicks. Eighteen games. Ten on the road. A five-game West Coast trip. Six back-to-backs. But they came out of it just fine, as they went 12-6 in the month - their highest win total since March 1994, when they finished 14-0.

Will nine in a row matter at all?

Does anything matter, aside from putting petty complaints on a pedestal, in the middle of a winning streak?

Nah. These are the Knicks. They always find a way to break your (chicken-liver sized) heart.

Yeah right.

I'm not saying the wins don't matter, and I don't think anyone else is either. We're saying the wins don't indicate that Tyson should be benched.
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4/1/2013  12:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/1/2013  12:14 PM
The Eraser

Bonn1997 wrote:I'm not saying the wins don't matter, and I don't think anyone else is either. We're saying the wins don't indicate that Tyson should be benched.

bonn1997 - you must (please) refrain from speaking for others. The comment that wins don't matter was made to support VCoug's claim that the Jazz and Celtics sucked. "(They) are not good teams." VCoug stated "7 games isn't going to erase everything that happened from 12/15 through 3/17."

It coincidence of winning has nothing to do with Tyson Chandler being injured. If Tyson Chandler were healthy, perhaps our second halves of games would be less dramatic. Who cares? "We are playing to win the game. Hello?" Anyone who claims that Chandler should be "benched", after he becomes available, needs a brain scan.

Just because the Knicks are on the doorstep of 50 wins is no reason to smile.

There are still ten games left for a total collapse, right?

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4/1/2013  12:17 PM
if you think the Knicks are better off without Tyson you are nuts. he's the most selfless player on the Knicks and does whatever is asked of him. this year hasn't been as good as last but whatever. the Knicks need Tyson especially against the Miamis of the world
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4/1/2013  12:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/1/2013  12:22 PM

Don't hate the winning streak, hate the schedule maker.

bonn1997 - Our opponents during this winning streak are a combined 247-330.

The March schedule was a brutal one for the Knicks. Eighteen games. Ten on the road. A five-game West Coast trip. Six back-to-backs. But they came out of it just fine, as they went 12-6 in the month -- their highest win total since March 1994, when they finished 14-0. - Jared Zwerling, ESPN

"It's a great month; now we've got to figure out April." - Mike Woodson

Onward.

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4/1/2013  12:25 PM
misterearl wrote:
Don't hate the winning streak, hate the schedule maker.

bonn1997 - Our opponents during this winning streak are a combined 247-330.

The March schedule was a brutal one for the Knicks. Eighteen games. Ten on the road. A five-game West Coast trip. Six back-to-backs. But they came out of it just fine, as they went 12-6 in the month -- their highest win total since March 1994, when they finished 14-0. - Jared Zwerling, ESPN

"It's a great month; now we've got to figure out April." - Mike Woodson

Onward.

wow - so it's been the best month in the history of this messageboard and Bonn decided to **** on it. figures

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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4/1/2013  12:26 PM
misterearl wrote:The Eraser

Bonn1997 wrote:I'm not saying the wins don't matter, and I don't think anyone else is either. We're saying the wins don't indicate that Tyson should be benched.

bonn1997 - you must (please) refrain from speaking for others. The comment that wins don't matter was made to support VCoug's claim that the Jazz and Celtics sucked. "(They) are not good teams." VCoug stated "7 games isn't going to erase everything that happened from 12/15 through 3/17."

It coincidence of winning has nothing to do with Tyson Chandler being injured. If Tyson Chandler were healthy, perhaps our second halves of games would be less dramatic. Who cares? "We are playing to win the game. Hello?" Anyone who claims that Chandler should be "benched", after he becomes available, needs a brain scan.

Just because the Knicks are on the doorstep of 50 wins is no reason to smile.

There are still ten games left for a total collapse, right?


I didn't read every word of every reply here but it should be clear from the OP and thread title that what I said was accurate - this thread is about evaluating Tyson.
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4/1/2013  12:28 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
misterearl wrote:
Don't hate the winning streak, hate the schedule maker.

bonn1997 - Our opponents during this winning streak are a combined 247-330.

The March schedule was a brutal one for the Knicks. Eighteen games. Ten on the road. A five-game West Coast trip. Six back-to-backs. But they came out of it just fine, as they went 12-6 in the month -- their highest win total since March 1994, when they finished 14-0. - Jared Zwerling, ESPN

"It's a great month; now we've got to figure out April." - Mike Woodson

Onward.

wow - so it's been the best month in the history of this messageboard and Bonn decided to **** on it. figures


No, you decided to have a ****ty interpretation of my post. I am defending Tyson from criticism in this thread. Part of that entails critically examining the current streak but my overall objective here is to be fair to Tyson.
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