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martin
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3/27/2013  1:41 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:What's the point in that?
There are times when the "new Jamal Crawford" looks better than Reggie Miller.

Bonnie, if you don't want to participate in topic, don't.

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3/27/2013  1:50 PM
OK Martie
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3/27/2013  2:05 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:You're basing too much on recent performance. He's a 35% 3 point shooter and 44% 2 point shooter. Basically, he's a good 3 point shooter and a bad 2 point shooter.
As far as JR being like James Harden, the difference is that in a few years from now people will say "JR who?"

Right, because James Harden is 37% and 44%, respectively. That's a major difference right there.
And JR's been in the league for 9 years and everybody's always been saying "JR who?"


Time to double check your #s and/or read more carefully.

Here's the numbers as of today's BBRef.com. Tell me how reading them more carefully helps your argument.

James Harden - Career NBA .446 .373
JR Smith - Career NBA .424 .366
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3/27/2013  2:05 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:He had a 7 game stretch where he averaged 22 PPG in 25 mpg on 52% shooting? He must have been = Ray Allen then!

I'm not convinced he's turned the corner either, but I think this thread is focusing on where JR is taking shots now (constantly driving, breaking down the defense) as opposed to having that random good game where he makes an uncharacteristic amount of his wild, lazy chuck-ups.
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3/27/2013  2:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/27/2013  2:26 PM
This is an interesting article for this discussion.

http://theknickswall.com/2013/03/27/j-r-smiths-shot-selection-improved-win-streak/

A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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3/27/2013  2:34 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:You're basing too much on recent performance. He's a 35% 3 point shooter and 44% 2 point shooter. Basically, he's a good 3 point shooter and a bad 2 point shooter.
As far as JR being like James Harden, the difference is that in a few years from now people will say "JR who?"

Right, because James Harden is 37% and 44%, respectively. That's a major difference right there.
And JR's been in the league for 9 years and everybody's always been saying "JR who?"


Time to double check your #s and/or read more carefully.

Here's the numbers as of today's BBRef.com. Tell me how reading them more carefully helps your argument.

James Harden - Career NBA .446 .373
JR Smith - Career NBA .424 .366


What about their FTA/FTM and AST totals....What do those reveal?
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3/27/2013  4:01 PM
Guys...i was only commenting on JR's style of attacking the rim...its herky-jerky like harden...no he ISNT harden...hes still JR and im not even sure if hes turned the corner...i was only commenting on their STYLES...no need to throw in stats or all star appearances...lol
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3/27/2013  4:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/27/2013  4:49 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:You're basing too much on recent performance. He's a 35% 3 point shooter and 44% 2 point shooter. Basically, he's a good 3 point shooter and a bad 2 point shooter.
As far as JR being like James Harden, the difference is that in a few years from now people will say "JR who?"

Right, because James Harden is 37% and 44%, respectively. That's a major difference right there.
And JR's been in the league for 9 years and everybody's always been saying "JR who?"


Time to double check your #s and/or read more carefully.

Here's the numbers as of today's BBRef.com. Tell me how reading them more carefully helps your argument.

James Harden - Career NBA .446 .373
JR Smith - Career NBA .424 .366


You are confusing total FG% with 2 point FG% (carefully see above)

I said JR was a bad 2 point shooter becaue he was shooting 44%. You said he was similar to Harden but he isn't. Harden's this year is 49%.
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3/27/2013  5:02 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:You're basing too much on recent performance. He's a 35% 3 point shooter and 44% 2 point shooter. Basically, he's a good 3 point shooter and a bad 2 point shooter.
As far as JR being like James Harden, the difference is that in a few years from now people will say "JR who?"

Right, because James Harden is 37% and 44%, respectively. That's a major difference right there.
And JR's been in the league for 9 years and everybody's always been saying "JR who?"


Time to double check your #s and/or read more carefully.

Here's the numbers as of today's BBRef.com. Tell me how reading them more carefully helps your argument.

James Harden - Career NBA .446 .373
JR Smith - Career NBA .424 .366


You are confusing total FG% with 2 point FG% (carefully see above)

I said JR was a bad 2 point shooter becaue he was shooting 44%. You said he was similar to Harden but he isn't. Harden's this year is 49%.

Thanks for the clarification, I guess.
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3/27/2013  10:40 PM
I see the same bunch of aholes are going strong and making sure nobody steps out of line.
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3/28/2013  5:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2013  5:40 AM
I hope JR can keep this up. If he keeps taking it to the hole (13 FT's last night!) I really like our chances. Seriously, even with his knuckleheaded play at times, if he keeps up what he is doing we are a VERY dangerous team with both him and Melo being able to finish like they can AND we have some great big bodies inside to compliment things. It is like we are a new team out there.

Of course we can't overlook what Prigs starting and getting some guys back from injury mean to this team now.

The Incredible JR article - http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/39609/the-incredible-j-r-smith

Key part imo

"I think he’s starting to figure out some things and he's mixing his game up," Woodson said. "He’s not just shooting jump shots. He's taking it to the hole, he’s rebounding, he’s making a conscious effort to defend. … He’s still got, I think, a ways to go, but he’s getting there."
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3/28/2013  5:41 AM
Sorry JR has a whole career's worth of knuckleheaded play to overcome before I'm a believer. Let's have him at least play like this for half a season?
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3/28/2013  5:46 AM
J.R Smith you can't stop him, you can only try and contain him.

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3/28/2013  6:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2013  6:36 AM
More Fun Than the Guy Who Plays in Houston Who Useta Play For New York

(Yeah I said it)

playa2 wrote:J.R Smith you can't stop him, you can only try and contain him.

"I think he’s starting to figure out some things and he's mixing his game up. He’s not just shooting jump shots. He's taking it to the hole, he’s rebounding, he’s making a conscious effort to defend. … He’s still got, I think, a ways to go, but he’s getting there."

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3/28/2013  8:28 AM
I've seen so many over-the-top knee-jerk the-sky-is-falling type of threads this season that it is almost refreshing to see a thread like this. At least this bad boy reflects some optimism
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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3/28/2013  8:29 AM
playa2 wrote:J.R Smith you can't stop him, you can only try and contain him.

that picture is friggin awesome

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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3/28/2013  8:31 AM
If he plays this way the rest of the year or even close--he wont be a Knick next year. How much money does Rudy gay make? If JR plays like this--who is better?
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3/28/2013  8:34 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
playa2 wrote:J.R Smith you can't stop him, you can only try and contain him.

that picture is friggin awesome

The proud Papa in the background!

"Just like I used to do it!"
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3/28/2013  8:37 AM
Maybe JR only plays the right way right before his contracts end
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3/28/2013  9:47 AM
Amadeus

Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe JR only plays the right way right before his contracts end

Of course, JR is simply another spoiled, gifted, problematic, playground baller who only cares about the money.

Playing close to home is irrelevant. His coaches handling means nothing. He could care less about his teammates because it begins and ends with him and him alone.

He ignores the support and adulation of the Garden.

Winning means absolutely nothing to him.

We get it.

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