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3/31/2013  4:27 PM
Forget the record...Dude has JR playing like a stud asking him to drive more...Woodson told Amare what to work on over the summer and looks like he has a few moves to improve his game before his knee gave way..He called out Chandler for not playing hard and working hard before Chandler went on his 20 per rebounding run..He challenged Melo to come back better and he did...He has his team balling..I mean really, he hasn't walked on water yet tho...
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3/31/2013  4:33 PM
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holfresh wrote:Come on guys..U are making the call from your collective couches..Let the professionals handle the heavy lifting..They are doing a fine job...63-32...Aren't we supposed to be about results anyway???

Im definitely happy with the record and I do give Woodson the credit he deserves. I just didnt care for his handling of Melo pre and post knee injury (and some other things that are a little off topic).

Tough call..Melo is no kid..I'm not sure how much a coach is supposed to know or do other than asked his top player if he is ready to go...Amare was complaining about him limiting his playing time before he went down and his injury occurred in his other knee...Shump is being limited to 20 mins per...I want to see him play more...Kidd is dialed back to 20mins per...So we can nit pick or give the guy props for a job well done so far...I hear all coaches across the league are great for the job they are doing..Jackson, Vogel, Thibs...Knick fans haven't seen their team play like this in over a decade...Woodson gets dissed...


I agree that Melo coming back was tough to call but when he asked to be taken out and the coach ignores it, thats a problem. I have to admit though that hes doing a good job so far with getting things back on track. My only fear is the ISOs and the adjustments come play off time but im not writing him off before he gets a chance to prove himself.
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holfresh wrote:
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holfresh wrote:Come on guys..U are making the call from your collective couches..Let the professionals handle the heavy lifting..They are doing a fine job...63-32...Aren't we supposed to be about results anyway???

Im definitely happy with the record and I do give Woodson the credit he deserves. I just didnt care for his handling of Melo pre and post knee injury (and some other things that are a little off topic).

Tough call..Melo is no kid..I'm not sure how much a coach is supposed to know or do other than asked his top player if he is ready to go...Amare was complaining about him limiting his playing time before he went down and his injury occurred in his other knee...Shump is being limited to 20 mins per...I want to see him play more...Kidd is dialed back to 20mins per...So we can nit pick or give the guy props for a job well done so far...I hear all coaches across the league are great for the job they are doing..Jackson, Vogel, Thibs...Knick fans haven't seen their team play like this in over a decade...Woodson gets dissed...


I agree that Melo coming back was tough to call but when he asked to be taken out and the coach ignores it, thats a problem. I have to admit though that hes doing a good job so far with getting things back on track. My only fear is the ISOs and the adjustments come play off time but im not writing him off before he gets a chance to prove himself.

That's my whole point...Woodson still has to prove himself...
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3/31/2013  4:54 PM
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:Come on guys..U are making the call from your collective couches..Let the professionals handle the heavy lifting..They are doing a fine job...63-32...Aren't we supposed to be about results anyway???

Im definitely happy with the record and I do give Woodson the credit he deserves. I just didnt care for his handling of Melo pre and post knee injury (and some other things that are a little off topic).

Tough call..Melo is no kid..I'm not sure how much a coach is supposed to know or do other than asked his top player if he is ready to go...Amare was complaining about him limiting his playing time before he went down and his injury occurred in his other knee...Shump is being limited to 20 mins per...I want to see him play more...Kidd is dialed back to 20mins per...So we can nit pick or give the guy props for a job well done so far...I hear all coaches across the league are great for the job they are doing..Jackson, Vogel, Thibs...Knick fans haven't seen their team play like this in over a decade...Woodson gets dissed...


I agree that Melo coming back was tough to call but when he asked to be taken out and the coach ignores it, thats a problem. I have to admit though that hes doing a good job so far with getting things back on track. My only fear is the ISOs and the adjustments come play off time but im not writing him off before he gets a chance to prove himself.

That's my whole point...Woodson still has to prove himself...


Yeah it seems we actually agree here. I just thought this thread was bumped to call out those that were criticizing Woodson before.
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3/31/2013  5:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/31/2013  5:53 PM
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:Come on guys..U are making the call from your collective couches..Let the professionals handle the heavy lifting..They are doing a fine job...63-32...Aren't we supposed to be about results anyway???

Im definitely happy with the record and I do give Woodson the credit he deserves. I just didnt care for his handling of Melo pre and post knee injury (and some other things that are a little off topic).

Tough call..Melo is no kid..I'm not sure how much a coach is supposed to know or do other than asked his top player if he is ready to go...Amare was complaining about him limiting his playing time before he went down and his injury occurred in his other knee...Shump is being limited to 20 mins per...I want to see him play more...Kidd is dialed back to 20mins per...So we can nit pick or give the guy props for a job well done so far...I hear all coaches across the league are great for the job they are doing..Jackson, Vogel, Thibs...Knick fans haven't seen their team play like this in over a decade...Woodson gets dissed...


I agree that Melo coming back was tough to call but when he asked to be taken out and the coach ignores it, thats a problem. I have to admit though that hes doing a good job so far with getting things back on track. My only fear is the ISOs and the adjustments come play off time but im not writing him off before he gets a chance to prove himself.

That's my whole point...Woodson still has to prove himself...


Yeah it seems we actually agree here. I just thought this thread was bumped to call out those that were criticizing Woodson before.

No, we actually don't agree..That was sarcasm...Woodson has done enough to warrant another year or two regardless of how the playoffs turn out...Knicks are 19 games over .500...How many coaches in this league who took a franchise from a losing situation over the last decade to 19 games over .500 in his first full season still has to prove himself???..Not Vogel, Jackson or Thibs...Or even George Karl...
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3/31/2013  5:59 PM
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:Come on guys..U are making the call from your collective couches..Let the professionals handle the heavy lifting..They are doing a fine job...63-32...Aren't we supposed to be about results anyway???

Im definitely happy with the record and I do give Woodson the credit he deserves. I just didnt care for his handling of Melo pre and post knee injury (and some other things that are a little off topic).

Tough call..Melo is no kid..I'm not sure how much a coach is supposed to know or do other than asked his top player if he is ready to go...Amare was complaining about him limiting his playing time before he went down and his injury occurred in his other knee...Shump is being limited to 20 mins per...I want to see him play more...Kidd is dialed back to 20mins per...So we can nit pick or give the guy props for a job well done so far...I hear all coaches across the league are great for the job they are doing..Jackson, Vogel, Thibs...Knick fans haven't seen their team play like this in over a decade...Woodson gets dissed...


I agree that Melo coming back was tough to call but when he asked to be taken out and the coach ignores it, thats a problem. I have to admit though that hes doing a good job so far with getting things back on track. My only fear is the ISOs and the adjustments come play off time but im not writing him off before he gets a chance to prove himself.

That's my whole point...Woodson still has to prove himself...


Yeah it seems we actually agree here. I just thought this thread was bumped to call out those that were criticizing Woodson before.

No, we actually don't agree..That was sarcasm...Woodson has done enough to warrant another year or two regardless of how the playoffs turn out...Knicks are 19 games over .500...How many coaches in this league who took a franchise from a losing situation over the last decade to 19 games over .500 in his first full season still has to prove himself???..Not Vogel, Jackson or Thibs...Or even George Karl...


Woodsons biggest knock is that he fails to adjust in the playoffs. His teams in Atlanta won a lot in the regular season but got killed in the post season. If he does the same crap here, thats a problem. Im not saying fire him on the spot but he shouldnt be absolved from all blame for another 2 years.
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3/31/2013  6:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/31/2013  6:10 PM
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:Come on guys..U are making the call from your collective couches..Let the professionals handle the heavy lifting..They are doing a fine job...63-32...Aren't we supposed to be about results anyway???

Im definitely happy with the record and I do give Woodson the credit he deserves. I just didnt care for his handling of Melo pre and post knee injury (and some other things that are a little off topic).

Tough call..Melo is no kid..I'm not sure how much a coach is supposed to know or do other than asked his top player if he is ready to go...Amare was complaining about him limiting his playing time before he went down and his injury occurred in his other knee...Shump is being limited to 20 mins per...I want to see him play more...Kidd is dialed back to 20mins per...So we can nit pick or give the guy props for a job well done so far...I hear all coaches across the league are great for the job they are doing..Jackson, Vogel, Thibs...Knick fans haven't seen their team play like this in over a decade...Woodson gets dissed...


I agree that Melo coming back was tough to call but when he asked to be taken out and the coach ignores it, thats a problem. I have to admit though that hes doing a good job so far with getting things back on track. My only fear is the ISOs and the adjustments come play off time but im not writing him off before he gets a chance to prove himself.

That's my whole point...Woodson still has to prove himself...


Yeah it seems we actually agree here. I just thought this thread was bumped to call out those that were criticizing Woodson before.

No, we actually don't agree..That was sarcasm...Woodson has done enough to warrant another year or two regardless of how the playoffs turn out...Knicks are 19 games over .500...How many coaches in this league who took a franchise from a losing situation over the last decade to 19 games over .500 in his first full season still has to prove himself???..Not Vogel, Jackson or Thibs...Or even George Karl...


Woodsons biggest knock is that he fails to adjust in the playoffs. His teams in Atlanta won a lot in the regular season but got killed in the post season. If he does the same crap here, thats a problem. Im not saying fire him on the spot but he shouldnt be absolved from all blame for another 2 years.

I never put stock into what a coach or player has done elsewhere...Never..U never pay close enough attention to what's actually happening or a team's daily play to make a reasonable judgement on what a coach or a player has done...If u want to say the Hawks never overachieved then ok...But neither has the Nuggets or the Bulls or Indy..Their coaches are gods, even in this forum by the very people that want to hold Woodson to account...
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3/31/2013  6:19 PM
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:Come on guys..U are making the call from your collective couches..Let the professionals handle the heavy lifting..They are doing a fine job...63-32...Aren't we supposed to be about results anyway???

Im definitely happy with the record and I do give Woodson the credit he deserves. I just didnt care for his handling of Melo pre and post knee injury (and some other things that are a little off topic).

Tough call..Melo is no kid..I'm not sure how much a coach is supposed to know or do other than asked his top player if he is ready to go...Amare was complaining about him limiting his playing time before he went down and his injury occurred in his other knee...Shump is being limited to 20 mins per...I want to see him play more...Kidd is dialed back to 20mins per...So we can nit pick or give the guy props for a job well done so far...I hear all coaches across the league are great for the job they are doing..Jackson, Vogel, Thibs...Knick fans haven't seen their team play like this in over a decade...Woodson gets dissed...


I agree that Melo coming back was tough to call but when he asked to be taken out and the coach ignores it, thats a problem. I have to admit though that hes doing a good job so far with getting things back on track. My only fear is the ISOs and the adjustments come play off time but im not writing him off before he gets a chance to prove himself.

That's my whole point...Woodson still has to prove himself...


Yeah it seems we actually agree here. I just thought this thread was bumped to call out those that were criticizing Woodson before.

No, we actually don't agree..That was sarcasm...Woodson has done enough to warrant another year or two regardless of how the playoffs turn out...Knicks are 19 games over .500...How many coaches in this league who took a franchise from a losing situation over the last decade to 19 games over .500 in his first full season still has to prove himself???..Not Vogel, Jackson or Thibs...Or even George Karl...


Woodsons biggest knock is that he fails to adjust in the playoffs. His teams in Atlanta won a lot in the regular season but got killed in the post season. If he does the same crap here, thats a problem. Im not saying fire him on the spot but he shouldnt be absolved from all blame for another 2 years.

I never put stock into what a coach or player has done elsewhere...Never..U never pay close enough attention to what's actually happening or a team's daily play to make a reasonable judgement on what a coach or a player has done...If u want to say the Hawks never overachieved then ok...But neither has the Nuggets or the Bulls or Indy..Their coaches are gods, even in this forum by the very people that want to hold Woodson to account...


Well why would I talk about their coaches? I dont care about their teams. Thats why I cant really comment on the coaches because I dont watch them often.
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3/31/2013  6:23 PM
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:Come on guys..U are making the call from your collective couches..Let the professionals handle the heavy lifting..They are doing a fine job...63-32...Aren't we supposed to be about results anyway???

Im definitely happy with the record and I do give Woodson the credit he deserves. I just didnt care for his handling of Melo pre and post knee injury (and some other things that are a little off topic).

Tough call..Melo is no kid..I'm not sure how much a coach is supposed to know or do other than asked his top player if he is ready to go...Amare was complaining about him limiting his playing time before he went down and his injury occurred in his other knee...Shump is being limited to 20 mins per...I want to see him play more...Kidd is dialed back to 20mins per...So we can nit pick or give the guy props for a job well done so far...I hear all coaches across the league are great for the job they are doing..Jackson, Vogel, Thibs...Knick fans haven't seen their team play like this in over a decade...Woodson gets dissed...


I agree that Melo coming back was tough to call but when he asked to be taken out and the coach ignores it, thats a problem. I have to admit though that hes doing a good job so far with getting things back on track. My only fear is the ISOs and the adjustments come play off time but im not writing him off before he gets a chance to prove himself.

That's my whole point...Woodson still has to prove himself...


Yeah it seems we actually agree here. I just thought this thread was bumped to call out those that were criticizing Woodson before.

No, we actually don't agree..That was sarcasm...Woodson has done enough to warrant another year or two regardless of how the playoffs turn out...Knicks are 19 games over .500...How many coaches in this league who took a franchise from a losing situation over the last decade to 19 games over .500 in his first full season still has to prove himself???..Not Vogel, Jackson or Thibs...Or even George Karl...


Woodsons biggest knock is that he fails to adjust in the playoffs. His teams in Atlanta won a lot in the regular season but got killed in the post season. If he does the same crap here, thats a problem. Im not saying fire him on the spot but he shouldnt be absolved from all blame for another 2 years.

I never put stock into what a coach or player has done elsewhere...Never..U never pay close enough attention to what's actually happening or a team's daily play to make a reasonable judgement on what a coach or a player has done...If u want to say the Hawks never overachieved then ok...But neither has the Nuggets or the Bulls or Indy..Their coaches are gods, even in this forum by the very people that want to hold Woodson to account...


Well why would I talk about their coaches? I dont care about their teams. Thats why I cant really comment on the coaches because I dont watch them often.

But u are commenting and holding Woodson accountable for what happened in Atlanta, aren't you???
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holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:Come on guys..U are making the call from your collective couches..Let the professionals handle the heavy lifting..They are doing a fine job...63-32...Aren't we supposed to be about results anyway???

Im definitely happy with the record and I do give Woodson the credit he deserves. I just didnt care for his handling of Melo pre and post knee injury (and some other things that are a little off topic).

Tough call..Melo is no kid..I'm not sure how much a coach is supposed to know or do other than asked his top player if he is ready to go...Amare was complaining about him limiting his playing time before he went down and his injury occurred in his other knee...Shump is being limited to 20 mins per...I want to see him play more...Kidd is dialed back to 20mins per...So we can nit pick or give the guy props for a job well done so far...I hear all coaches across the league are great for the job they are doing..Jackson, Vogel, Thibs...Knick fans haven't seen their team play like this in over a decade...Woodson gets dissed...


I agree that Melo coming back was tough to call but when he asked to be taken out and the coach ignores it, thats a problem. I have to admit though that hes doing a good job so far with getting things back on track. My only fear is the ISOs and the adjustments come play off time but im not writing him off before he gets a chance to prove himself.

That's my whole point...Woodson still has to prove himself...


Yeah it seems we actually agree here. I just thought this thread was bumped to call out those that were criticizing Woodson before.

No, we actually don't agree..That was sarcasm...Woodson has done enough to warrant another year or two regardless of how the playoffs turn out...Knicks are 19 games over .500...How many coaches in this league who took a franchise from a losing situation over the last decade to 19 games over .500 in his first full season still has to prove himself???..Not Vogel, Jackson or Thibs...Or even George Karl...


Woodsons biggest knock is that he fails to adjust in the playoffs. His teams in Atlanta won a lot in the regular season but got killed in the post season. If he does the same crap here, thats a problem. Im not saying fire him on the spot but he shouldnt be absolved from all blame for another 2 years.

I never put stock into what a coach or player has done elsewhere...Never..U never pay close enough attention to what's actually happening or a team's daily play to make a reasonable judgement on what a coach or a player has done...If u want to say the Hawks never overachieved then ok...But neither has the Nuggets or the Bulls or Indy..Their coaches are gods, even in this forum by the very people that want to hold Woodson to account...


Well why would I talk about their coaches? I dont care about their teams. Thats why I cant really comment on the coaches because I dont watch them often.

But u are commenting and holding Woodson accountable for what happened in Atlanta, aren't you???


Im not holding accountable for what happened there at all. Im showing concern after seeing some of the same flaws here that he showed there.
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TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
holfresh wrote:Come on guys..U are making the call from your collective couches..Let the professionals handle the heavy lifting..They are doing a fine job...63-32...Aren't we supposed to be about results anyway???

Im definitely happy with the record and I do give Woodson the credit he deserves. I just didnt care for his handling of Melo pre and post knee injury (and some other things that are a little off topic).

Tough call..Melo is no kid..I'm not sure how much a coach is supposed to know or do other than asked his top player if he is ready to go...Amare was complaining about him limiting his playing time before he went down and his injury occurred in his other knee...Shump is being limited to 20 mins per...I want to see him play more...Kidd is dialed back to 20mins per...So we can nit pick or give the guy props for a job well done so far...I hear all coaches across the league are great for the job they are doing..Jackson, Vogel, Thibs...Knick fans haven't seen their team play like this in over a decade...Woodson gets dissed...


I agree that Melo coming back was tough to call but when he asked to be taken out and the coach ignores it, thats a problem. I have to admit though that hes doing a good job so far with getting things back on track. My only fear is the ISOs and the adjustments come play off time but im not writing him off before he gets a chance to prove himself.

That's my whole point...Woodson still has to prove himself...


Yeah it seems we actually agree here. I just thought this thread was bumped to call out those that were criticizing Woodson before.

No, we actually don't agree..That was sarcasm...Woodson has done enough to warrant another year or two regardless of how the playoffs turn out...Knicks are 19 games over .500...How many coaches in this league who took a franchise from a losing situation over the last decade to 19 games over .500 in his first full season still has to prove himself???..Not Vogel, Jackson or Thibs...Or even George Karl...


Woodsons biggest knock is that he fails to adjust in the playoffs. His teams in Atlanta won a lot in the regular season but got killed in the post season. If he does the same crap here, thats a problem. Im not saying fire him on the spot but he shouldnt be absolved from all blame for another 2 years.

I never put stock into what a coach or player has done elsewhere...Never..U never pay close enough attention to what's actually happening or a team's daily play to make a reasonable judgement on what a coach or a player has done...If u want to say the Hawks never overachieved then ok...But neither has the Nuggets or the Bulls or Indy..Their coaches are gods, even in this forum by the very people that want to hold Woodson to account...


Well why would I talk about their coaches? I dont care about their teams. Thats why I cant really comment on the coaches because I dont watch them often.

But u are commenting and holding Woodson accountable for what happened in Atlanta, aren't you???


Im not holding accountable for what happened there at all. Im showing concern after seeing some of the same flaws here that he showed there.

But u just admitted you cannot make judgement on those team because u don't watch them, unless u only watched Altanta and the Knicks...I can't make that call because I didn't watch them that closely..However, I do know MDA was a horrible in game coach in the playoffs because I saw Doc Rivers run circles around him play calling after watching every moment...
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3/31/2013  6:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/31/2013  6:34 PM
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TeamBall wrote:Im not holding accountable for what happened there at all. Im showing concern after seeing some of the same flaws here that he showed there.


There is a huge difference in the composition of the former Hawks and current Knicks rosters. The idea of trusting veterans was/is a Woodson directive.

TeamBall - what exact Atlanta "flaws" are you referring to, that Woodson is demonstrating this season in New York?

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misterearl wrote:No One Is Perfect

TeamBall wrote:Im not holding accountable for what happened there at all. Im showing concern after seeing some of the same flaws here that he showed there.


There is a huge difference in the composition of the former Hawks and current Knicks rosters. The idea of trusting veterans was/is a Woodson directive.

TeamBall - what exact Atlanta "flaws" are you referring to, that Woodson is demonstrating this season in New York?


My biggest problems were his lack of adjustments, favoritsm, absence of plays/sets, being too reliant on ISOs, and his nearly running Melo into the ground. I have no problem admitting hes gotten better with some of these though and im hoping he only continues to improve.

The specific Atlants flaws I have read about and heard from friends there was his lack of adjustments, obsession with small ball, being iso heavy, and running his best player into the ground.

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I watch every game and I don't get the favoritism bit...Lack of adjustments???...U can't be 19 games over .500 with the multitude of injuries the Knicks have had and not make adjustments...Impossible...Ur nit picking bro..
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holfresh wrote:I watch every game and I don't get the favoritism bit...Lack of adjustments???...U can't be 19 games over .500 with the multitude of injuries the Knicks have had and not make adjustments...Impossible...Ur nit picking bro..

I did say hes gotten better at some of these things. I agree the favoritism hasnt been bad/obvious recently but I and others saw it throughout the season. The adjustments for me are some things that I do nit pick at a little so youre correct there. The first example that comes to mind is when we played GS and they began trapping the pick and roll and I think Chris Webber commented on how we needed to adjust to that but we never did.
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Let's agree to this..If Knick fan tells u that Woodson problem was he didn't make adjustments in the playoffs while in ATL...Let's agree to be skeptical about that one...
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holfresh wrote:Let's agree to this..If Knick fan tells u that Woodson problem was he didn't make adjustments in the playoffs while in ATL...Let's agree to be skeptical about that one...

Lol i'll agree to that
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TeamBall wrote:The specific Atlants flaws I have read about and heard from friends there was his lack of adjustments, obsession with small ball, being iso heavy, and running his best player into the ground.

Joe Johnson was not run into the ground in Atlanta. The highest paid player vanished in the playoffs and shot miserably.

Take it from someone who lived in Atlanta.

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3/31/2013  7:38 PM
misterearl wrote:Best Player

TeamBall wrote:The specific Atlants flaws I have read about and heard from friends there was his lack of adjustments, obsession with small ball, being iso heavy, and running his best player into the ground.

Joe Johnson was not run into the ground in Atlanta. The highest paid player vanished in the playoffs and shot miserably.

Take it from someone who lived in Atlanta.


I'll take your word for it Earl. Plus that did just remind me of him getting booed in the playoffs that one year. I stand corrected.
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One last thing...We have come a long way from the team that lost twice a year to the Bobcats...Lets give Woody some credit for that...Last night the Kings gave the Lakers all they could handle...Just saying...
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