Nalod wrote:

Remember, its NY and fans are too smart and "sophisticated" to rebuild.

LOL! That's a good one Nalod

Bonn1997 wrote:You've come a long way from the guy in the Tyson thread I started earlier in the season. You called him a "monster" who was "saving us"
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=43348&page=2
Yet Tyson's production has still been very good. The only thing that's changed is that the team is looking for him less on offense (well, and his rebounding and blocks have improved).

You have to give to get in this world my friend. If we fail this year--I dont see how we can keep Tyson and his 14mm $ price tag if we can find a deal like this.

Is it where the starphuched worship Mooby and buy jersey's, support sponsers and tickets while viewership is up?

Is it where the team keeps a good % of fan base from leaving to BKN and its Swag?

Or where some actually define success as having won a championship?

Maybe Briggs is looking at it all wrong, its no how do we rebuild, its how can we starphuch more!!!!!

BRIGGS wrote:There is no way anyone is taking Amare's 20mm off of our hand--that is not happening and thats ok because eh can be very valuable.

What i think this team will need to do is to move Tyson Chandler's contract out--preferably for a high draft pick and concentrate on getting younger faster more skilled and more diversified

The Spurs have 9 players on their roster--three starters who have 3 years of experience or less the Knicks have 3 of which one is 35. This team needs to diversify its roster like the Spurs.

I think we need a skilled long PG a couple of young 6-10 athletic big players and another proven NBA 2 guard all less than 30 years old. I would be looking at taking on 3-4 rookies and 3-4 NBA now players(6-7 new players to replace what we have now). If we rid ourselves of Tysons contract--we likely can use the big MLE.

There's no way we trade Tyson, and we shouldn't, unless we're blowing up the whole team.

Knixkik wrote:I don't understand why would we trade Chandler? He's a good center, protector, Defensive enforcer. We can't trade him for anyone with the same effect on the floor. Keep Melo, Chandler, Shumpert, and build around them. Find a nice combo forward to start next to Melo and go back to war next season. Learn from what worked early in the season. This was a contending team. Chandler is a big reason for it.

Its pretty simple. If we fail this year--this did not work. The only way I would not do something like this is if I get to the ECF and go 6 games in. We have 55mm tied into three players. In order for us to diversify--wed have to give up one and Chandler is the guy. This stuff about defense is stupid. Who plays C for Mimai--Chris Bosh a terrible defender. Its team concept and in this scenario wed have much better team defenders anyway.

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I don't understand why would we trade Chandler? He's a good center, protector, Defensive enforcer. We can't trade him for anyone with the same effect on the floor. Keep Melo, Chandler, Shumpert, and build around them. Find a nice combo forward to start next to Melo and go back to war next season. Learn from what worked early in the season. This was a contending team. Chandler is a big reason for it.

Its pretty simple. If we fail this year--this did not work. The only way I would not do something like this is if I get to the ECF and go 6 games in. We have 55mm tied into three players. In order for us to diversify--wed have to give up one and Chandler is the guy. This stuff about defense is stupid. Who plays C for Mimai--Chris Bosh a terrible defender. Its team concept and in this scenario wed have much better team defenders anyway.

It shouldn't matter how much money we have tied into 3 players, because trading 1 of them won't get us under the cap to do anything. As long as we advance in the playoffs and move in the right directly, we can search for role players that improve our chances of competing. Melo and Chandler are too important to trade in a half-assed rebuilding effort.

Knixkik wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:But why wouldn't you trade the guy that our failed team was built around and that has more trade value than Tyson?

So just because we failed to build around him this season means he is not a player you can build around? Was Lebron not a player you could build around in Cleveland since they fell short too?

2 Different players. One is a creator that makes everybody around him better. The other an elite scoring machine. Easier to build around LeDouche.