Lumping is not smart.

Its not in anyones best interests to rush a player back.

Rose maybe could play but your dealing with a 100million dollar property.

Nalod wrote:Not all ACL are the same, not all players are the same, and not all doctors are the same.

Lumping is not smart.

Its not in anyones best interests to rush a player back.

Rose maybe could play but your dealing with a 100million dollar property.

I think Shumpert's injury was actually worse though
He wasn't able to walk for week's while Rose's was walking in a day or 2

But it is hard to compare Iman to Rose, while one would be in the All STar Game, Iman never even made it to the Rookie *SNUB*/Sophmore *injury, not snub* All STAR Game
Rose is worth 100m+ while Iman was just starting to earn his respect as one of the rookie's top defenders
Simply put, Iman has a lot more work to do, earning his value, respect, and ranking in this league

Iman didn't just tear ACL but MCL as well, with TOTAL CONSTRUCTIVE KNEE SURGERY
I think he will come back with his worth ethic, but I will not say if it will be in the playoff's or next year
However, our team is built to win THIS YEAR, and I would like to keep Iman for the future, but the Knick's do not have any value outside of Iman if they want a good piece back
Outside of Tyson Chandler/Melo/JR SMITH *no trade clause*, and filler's *expirings paired with a future 2016 or 17 draft pick*
Everything else are considered bad contract's in Novak/Camby

I think Iman WILL come back next year and surprise a lot of people, he will work on his weaknesses, build on his strengths, improve his shot, and more importantly regain that confidence/athleticism/speed/quickness
Will the Knick's be patient or ROLEPLAYERPHUQ?

I don't quite understand what's going on here. A rough chronology of the Iman Shumpert trade rumors is: 1. Alex Kennedy reports the Knicks' interest in Jared Dudley, we all assume Shump would be part of any deal for Dudley. 2. Adrian Wojnarowski reports the Suns' interest in trading Dudley for Shumpert while denying any mutual interest from the Knicks 3. Knicks people like Mike Woodson and Carmelo Anthony vehemently dismiss any trade rumors. Shump says he's trying to ignore them. Glen Grunwald says nothing, of course.

It's been quiet for like a week now, but that was pretty much it, right? Well, now here's a new thing from Chris Sheridan at his eponymous website:

Chris Sheridan:
"There are major concerns (from people close to Shumpert) over how the Knicks are developing him," a source from another team told SheridanHoops.com, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

"They feel he’s being played out of position (at small forward) and his confidence is suffering because of it. They understand the team is having success and it has to be the right deal, but they’d prefer Iman in another situation… And soon."

So this is Sheridan hearing from a source with another team who heard from Shumpert's people that they-- not he-- are uncomfortable with how he's being developed in New York. That's a long way for information to travel. All this business about him being out of place at small forward (Is his role any different at that spot? Doesn't seem that way. Strikes me as a bull**** reason.) seems like a facade for someone somewhere along that telephone chain wanting him off the Knicks. But who is it? Is it Shump? Is it Shump's agent, Happy Walters? Is it another team forcing the seeds of disgruntlement on the Knicks to loosen their grip on Shumpert? Is it the Knicks themselves spreading rumors to lay the logical groundwork for a deal? I don't know.

Leaks always have a motive and the motive here is to get Shumpert dealt, but I'm not sure who the catalyst is. Thoughts?
http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2013/2/16/3995852/knicks-trade-rumors-iman-shumpert-chris-sheridan-sourc

gunsnewing wrote:What the hell is this from Seth Rosenthal:

I don't quite understand what's going on here. A rough chronology of the Iman Shumpert trade rumors is: 1. Alex Kennedy reports the Knicks' interest in Jared Dudley, we all assume Shump would be part of any deal for Dudley. 2. Adrian Wojnarowski reports the Suns' interest in trading Dudley for Shumpert while denying any mutual interest from the Knicks 3. Knicks people like Mike Woodson and Carmelo Anthony vehemently dismiss any trade rumors. Shump says he's trying to ignore them. Glen Grunwald says nothing, of course.

It's been quiet for like a week now, but that was pretty much it, right? Well, now here's a new thing from Chris Sheridan at his eponymous website:

Chris Sheridan:
"There are major concerns (from people close to Shumpert) over how the Knicks are developing him," a source from another team told SheridanHoops.com, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

"They feel he’s being played out of position (at small forward) and his confidence is suffering because of it. They understand the team is having success and it has to be the right deal, but they’d prefer Iman in another situation… And soon."

So this is Sheridan hearing from a source with another team who heard from Shumpert's people that they-- not he-- are uncomfortable with how he's being developed in New York. That's a long way for information to travel. All this business about him being out of place at small forward (Is his role any different at that spot? Doesn't seem that way. Strikes me as a bull**** reason.) seems like a facade for someone somewhere along that telephone chain wanting him off the Knicks. But who is it? Is it Shump? Is it Shump's agent, Happy Walters? Is it another team forcing the seeds of disgruntlement on the Knicks to loosen their grip on Shumpert? Is it the Knicks themselves spreading rumors to lay the logical groundwork for a deal? I don't know.

Leaks always have a motive and the motive here is to get Shumpert dealt, but I'm not sure who the catalyst is. Thoughts?
http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2013/2/16/3995852/knicks-trade-rumors-iman-shumpert-chris-sheridan-sourc

I'm fairly concerned about this, it reads almost exactly like what happened in the offseason with Lin. First, Woodson says there's no way we'll let him go; then the rumors start coming that we might be looking at other players; then reports start coming that the team isn't happy with his attitude/work habits/etc.; finally, we end up losing him nothing or next to nothing. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we ended trading Shumpert to Minnesota for Ridnour