ramtour420 wrote:Briggs, this is not a good idea. How can I tell ? Tkf is having too much fun with this. Also, because Tyson is our second most important player and also Smith would not be our 2nd most important player. Downgrade imho with the pick not being high enough to make up for it. There has to be a better way to get picks.

I woulodnt care about the picks:) Josh Smith and Melo on the same team would be hard to guard. I wouldnt do it without getting Oneal but again Oneal and Amare at C is no slouch.

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

helloharv wrote:not very good at all

we would be outrebounded 40-20 every game

Wed likely be a better rebounding team. With Smith Melo and a center----wed become young versatile explosive. Remember this is a guy who avg 19-10-4 last year. Tyson avg 11-11. Where is Miamis center?

Let's look at that a bit more closely. The difference this year between Smith and Tyson is that Smith scores 5.0 more points per game on 8.9 more shots a game. This trade makes us much worse on both ends of the floor.

This would make the team faster, more versatile and more explosive. Certainly we would need a center and I would not do something like this without potentially acquiring a center like Oneal

But for one second lets look at this

I would not do it unless we had the ability to add a C but I would believe we can--in fact I think we can add Webster from Wash and Oneal from Phoi in a 3 way

what better our present team? or

Oneal C
Smith F
Melo F
Webster G
Felton--G
Amare
JR Smith
J Kidd
Novak
Wallace

BRIGGS wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Briggs, this is not a good idea. How can I tell ? Tkf is having too much fun with this. Also, because Tyson is our second most important player and also Smith would not be our 2nd most important player. Downgrade imho with the pick not being high enough to make up for it. There has to be a better way to get picks.

I woulodnt care about the picks:) Josh Smith and Melo on the same team would be hard to guard. I wouldnt do it without getting Oneal but again Oneal and Amare at C is no slouch.

Oneal is as inconsistent as they come, both his health and his game. Tyson is quite the opposite. Tyson in PnR is even harder to guard we just don't run it nearly enough for him or maybe its that Felton is not that good at passing it when PnR

Knicks would get a rebounding machine in Asik that plays good defense. Backup young PF in Patterson and a backup center. Fixes a lot of problems.

Houston would get a center that actually knows how to play PnR with Lin and Harden.

This is a win win for both teams.

The knicks would have a devestating front line with A'mare in the mix. I still like A'mare of the bench but we have Camby on the roster still...josh, melo and Camby with A'mare of the bench is championship ready. Stick Shump where he belongs next to Felton with kid and smith?

Let's do it!!!! Briggs is a genius!!!

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I mean, do you realize how big a downgrade on offense it is if the guy gets 5 more points on 9 more shots and also gives 3 fewer offensive rebounds a game? My guess is the team averages about seven fewer points per game if you replace Tyson with Smith and keep everything else the same.

You keep focusing on offense and fg attempts. What about D?

I would not do the trade though. Even though Smith is one of the best wing defenders in the league.

Bonn1997 wrote:Everyone's been up and down. I'd be surprised if the Knicks are not happy with their all-star center

Pat ewing is an all star. Tyson Chandler is a role player all star who couldnt walk in Patricks shoes.

mrKnickShot wrote:

arkrud wrote:Pat was complete player. All around.
Defense, offense, leadership, heart, tuffness.
Tyson represent what left out of all this in today’s NBA - finesse, arrogance, one-sided skills.
Players like Patrick are hard to come by. Bbal Dinosaurs.

Ewing was a terrible passer (or just hated to do it)

Who was he passing it to? Knicks didn't have players like Amare and Melo.

Checketts admitted his biggest regret in 94 was not getting Ewing that Robin

loweyecue wrote:Bonn, TyChan has one of the highest shooting percentages in the game because he basically only dunks. I dont think it's fair to evalluate the trade based on shooting percentage. But I don't want to see Amare playing Center as a starter, it means we would not have a last line of defense. That is why I wouldn't do it.

I think that his point is that players should shoot the highest percentage shots, therefore, they should only dunk

Well ... not really

I don't think that Bonn is willing to entertain the idea of diminishing marginal returns when it comes to Chandler and WS's