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gunsnewing
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2/10/2013  12:11 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Gulp:

Woodson said he has talked to Shumpert about trade rumor but can't assure him he won't be moved.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2KW7HUmMT

Why??? Why for Jared Dudley???

Shump is Jordan Very Lite!! Why can't we keep a pick for a change

Jordan lite? Maybe Chris Mills ultra-lite
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2/10/2013  12:14 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Gulp:

Woodson said he has talked to Shumpert about trade rumor but can't assure him he won't be moved.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2KW7HUmMT

Why??? Why for Jared Dudley???

Shump is Jordan Very Lite!! Why can't we keep a pick for a change

Jordan lite? Maybe Chris Mills ultra-lite

Toney Allen lite
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2/10/2013  12:20 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:This is the only deal: They have tried to get Shump since the summer so if they want him here it goes

NY:

Dudley
Gortat
1st

Phx:

Shump
Novak
Camby


Camby deal expires next year so they get a young piece, a semi young shooter, and a future expiring. No it's not that great for them but why make it fair?

Deal or no deal?

I'd feel sorry for Camby- we go to great lengths to recruit him over summer, he signs here as his last destination before retirement (could have signed with Heat), only for us to turn round and screw him over!

I think Suns can get something pretty good for Gortat, and also he is a cry baby who cries if he doesn't start, and then if he does start he cries if he isn't the focal point of the offense, despite the fact he lacks the skills to be the focal point of the offense.

No deal!
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2/10/2013  12:20 PM
Small tweeks make teams.

briggy is on the right track to "Win now".

These are all small pieces but Dudley does solve a need.

Jermain O'neal is a 5-10 minutes guy if healthy. Not much to ask. If sheed is cooked the question is do you really want to go into the playoffs with Just Camby?

First round pick you get another player to "develop" for trade.

And the Beat goes on.........
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2/10/2013  12:23 PM
Nalod wrote:Small tweeks make teams.

briggy is on the right track to "Win now".

These are all small pieces but Dudley does solve a need.

Jermain O'neal is a 5-10 minutes guy if healthy. Not much to ask. If sheed is cooked the question is do you really want to go into the playoffs with Just Camby?

First round pick you get another player to "develop" for trade.

And the Beat goes on.........

our needs aren't at SF. Weaknesses are in the frontcourt and arguably at SG
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2/10/2013  12:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/10/2013  12:31 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Gulp:

Woodson said he has talked to Shumpert about trade rumor but can't assure him he won't be moved.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2KW7HUmMT

Why??? Why for Jared Dudley???

Shump is Jordan Very Lite!! Why can't we keep a pick for a change

Jordan lite? Maybe Chris Mills ultra-lite

Toney Allen lite


Wow, I just coincidentally referred to him as a poor man's Tony Allen in another thread! Allen is an efficient offensive player, though. Shumpert can aim to be like Tony Allen but he has a long way to go.
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2/10/2013  12:33 PM
Chris Mills Ultr-Lite referring to Jared Dudley my bad
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2/10/2013  12:47 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Chris Mills Ultr-Lite referring to Jared Dudley my bad

I remember Chris Mills- wasn't he the Cavs player we traded for to solidify our bench, only for him to have a poor season followed by a trade to the Warriors as part of the Sprewell deal? Those 1998 Knicks tend to be forgotten- never quite clicked, and got pushed out of history by the 97 and 99 Knicks!
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2/10/2013  12:47 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Chris Mills Ultr-Lite referring to Jared Dudley my bad

You haven't spent even five seconds looking at their numbers, have you?
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2/10/2013  12:48 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:I doubt they'd do this even without the pick included.

Jermaine Oneal means 0 to the Suns


He should mean -1 to us.
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2/10/2013  12:50 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Chris Mills Ultr-Lite referring to Jared Dudley my bad

I look at Dudley like as a Rick Fox/Doug Christie type player
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2/10/2013  1:05 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Chris Mills Ultr-Lite referring to Jared Dudley my bad

You haven't spent even five seconds looking at their numbers, have you?

Chris Mills at 36 i mean lol

Ultra-lite
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2/10/2013  1:06 PM
3G4G wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Chris Mills Ultr-Lite referring to Jared Dudley my bad

I look at Dudley like as a Rick Fox/Doug Christie type player

right so we are giving Shump away for Rick fox?
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2/10/2013  1:07 PM
Rick Fox is a perfect comparison to Dudley actually. Athough Rick played good D. Solid end of the bench role player on a championship squad
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2/10/2013  1:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/10/2013  1:28 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Chris Mills Ultr-Lite referring to Jared Dudley my bad

You haven't spent even five seconds looking at their numbers, have you?

Chris Mills at 36 i mean lol

Ultra-lite


I meant that Mills was more of a less efficient volume scorer and Dudley's #s are much better.
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2/10/2013  1:48 PM
smackeddog wrote:Gulp:

Woodson said he has talked to Shumpert about trade rumor but can't assure him he won't be moved.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2KW7HUmMT

I won't be expecting much out of him with that being said, there's no way you can focus with your status in limbo

ES
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2/10/2013  1:50 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:This is the only deal: They have tried to get Shump since the summer so if they want him here it goes

NY:

Dudley
Gortat
1st

Phx:

Shump
Novak
Camby


Camby deal expires next year so they get a young piece, a semi young shooter, and a future expiring. No it's not that great for them but why make it fair?

Deal or no deal?

DEAL!
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2/10/2013  2:21 PM
I look at Dudley as a bigger Kevin Martin with worse Ft shooting. The thing with Dudley is his numbers on D has went down the past few years. A scouting department can watch tape and see if its fixable.
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2/10/2013  2:32 PM
He is not a SG
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2/10/2013  2:48 PM
Why would we give up the best player in a trade???
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