Caseloads wrote:no trades. i never thought i'd say this, but this team needs sheed.

That ****ing sucks, that a guy 2 years removed from pro ball is our savior,

this is the same thing all over again,

last year it was Baron Davis,

I don't want to hear this.

We need to dump Amar'e, I know there's no way in heck it happens but that's what you need to do if you want most bang for the buck, Amar'e can still drop 20 points per game on a team where he is the Big Kahuna, this is the last year you're trading AMar'e for his basketball value, every season after this you're dealing him for his expiring contract

BRIGGS wrote:The playoffs bear many heavy minutes neither Camby or Wallace has proven they can stay healthy--so how can anyone believe they will stay reliable and productive in a more intense environment? On top of which they need to be healthy in the reg season to keep rythmn--both for themselves and the team, Now Kidd is down again. i was in the camp of we might just need 1 but I think if we can somehow get two quality guys one a SG or combo and a PF if we just have to give up enders--I would do it. Take on some salary next year for this year

I agree.

Shumpert looks like he should return to form by next year. I'm VERY worried we will lose Smith this summer too.

but 3 scenario's that we would have a shot are

1- most legit shot Toronto would consider is with Iman Shumpert and fill ins, in which I have no interest in parting with

2- JR Smith/Copeland/ fill ins *JR Smith has been on a slump since the injury to Avery Bradly but if he breaks his funk and gets back his consistant NEW JR SMITH he started the season with, we might not be able to keep him in the off season, probably would rather keep him than lose chemistry

3- Felton/fill in's/ and future picks

Felton's DEFENSE lacks speed/quickness on quicker guards *majority of starting PG's in the league*, as many PG's can easily penetrate vs him
Lack's BB IQ to set up team, constantly tries to SCORE to try to prove his value in the league, and we already have Melo and JR Smith taking those low percentage shots
He is crucial to our system/philosophy, has a very cap friendly contract, but he just isn't that good, average at best
In the end, Felton has experience/chemistry with many on the roster but I would like to add another G that has the ability to penetrate and defend with experience and some young legs

I wanted Jannero Pargo but he has signed a 10 day contract with Atlanta since Lou Williams went down
I feel he would be a good fit, is a veteran/journey man, could play a STARTING role if needed with injuries or a limited role efficiently/effectively, and penetrate/defend, shoot wide open 3's, and could be a decent 2nd string PG that we lack

Considering Felton is our only PG that lacks speed/quickness, Kidd is a SG and Pablo *3rd string PG* doesn't have much speed/quickness and ability to penetrate

I am very surprised we didn't add Martin already and a PG like Pargo when we were struggling and he was available
For anyone that doesn't want Kenyon Martin, I am sure you did not watch him play last year on the Clippers as he showed he still can contribute/defend at a high level
He is still available because he wanted more than the veteran's minimum while no team wanted to invest more than that in him

I believe simple additions with Martin and Pargo would have allowed us to maintained the 1st seed on the East and now we find ourselves battling with 4 teams with the East being very tight for play off position
Having 1st/2nd/ at least 3rd seed is VERY important for our playoff position, as we would like to avoid playing Miami/Bulls at all costs

With the age of our roster and our players consistently getting injured/coming back from injuries, it would be smart to add some insurance with some healthy/younger legs that Woodson could trust, and have the ability to DEFEND/play smart with experience

martin wrote:

Anji wrote:I think Tyson is wearing down from all the minutes. I would really like to know what the situation is with JOneil and the Suns. Guy like that will give you very good production in the paint and with his jumper in 15-20 minutes a night.

who could you trade and/or who do you cut?

BTW, Chandler averaging 33 minutes a game... wearing down?

But I looked up why JOneil isn't playing the last 10 days, and I don't know how serious his condition is, but we don't need another Big with a condition.

"The health issue was an irregular heartbeat," he said. "It was scary. At 34 years old and you're having issues with your heart not beating the way it's supposed to beat and causing shortness of breath and dizziness -- it's not about basketball.

http://arizonasports.com/41/1604880/Suns-ONeal-out-with-irregular-heartbeat

Anji wrote:I personally feel that Thomas, White and Copeland could be cut for a decent pick up.

And I would actively try to trade Novak, Thomas and Brewer. Not saying these guys would bring a top notch big, but that is why I'm wondering about a guy like Jermaine ONeil.

I somewhat agree that those guys are expendable

Wondering what Ekpe Udoh is worth on the market now from the Bucks
With Sanders, Ilyasova, Henson, Dalembert, Gooden, I would not be surprised if they wanted some financial relief for him
However, they probably would rather trade him out West, and try to get back a young player or a pick
We could offer Copeland/Thomas/Brewer but I think Copeland's contract is guaranteed now for the rest of the year

With Monta most likely opting out, Jennings looking for a new contract in the summer, Dunleavey expiring as well, Bucks might need some cap relief as a small market team...

I agree that Tyson Chandler needs help, he is playing hurt with a bad neck for awhile already
He doesn't have a legit backup or another PF that compliments him defensively like JJ did for us last year
That play today, in the final minutes where Amare just stood there when Teague almost got an easy layup as Tyson ran out of his way to block/alter his shot with some contact to save the game could have cost us. More importantly, it reminds us what Amare is or is not DEFENSIVELY...

As for Jermaine Oneil, he is another Rasheed Wallace/Camby waiting to happen, we would never know when they would ever be available to play for us
But I do agree he would help us defensively with limited minutes, with a decent 12 footer.
I still don't understand why we have not contacted Kenyon Martin though...