3G4G wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

3G4G wrote:And if you compare Kobe to both of them first 5yrs Kobe would like pure trash....

Kobe came straight out of high school and came off the bench his first 2 years though

So did Lebron and? So did Garnett. Both went on to do great things as their careers progressed

Which suggest he wasn't as good as them entering the league but got progressively better...point is as a player advances through his career they prove to be what they prove to be. The difference here Durant will have a longer and more consistent level of ELITE level play along with efficiency...barring no major injuries. He'll more than likely be an NBA Champion and win many more scoring titles while making ALL NBA First Teams.

They aren't the same player not really close and all similar productivity is not created equal

Garnett and Lebron did not come off the bench their first 2 years my point is you can't compare Kobe's first years because of this fact

So you should probably compare by age since some would have thought Kobe never to be a GOAT based on his first few yrs in the league.

And by golly I forgot that every thread comparing Melo to anyone else has to include references to Kobe.
So where does it say that for the first 5 years of their careers, there is this insane chasm between Melo and Durant?

And given Durant's only been in the league 6 years, what exactly was the OP supposed to compare Melo to? Make believe TS% forecasted and weighted by the fact that Melo is fatter than Durant?

Rk Player...............From To ......G .GS .MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Carmelo Anthony.2004 2013 677 677 36.2 8.8 19.4 .457 0.9 2.7 .333 6.3 7.8 .806 1.9 4.4 6.3 3.1 1.1 0.5 3.0 3.0 24.9
2 Kevin Durant.......2008 2013 421 421 38.2 9.0 19.0 .472 1.5 4.1 .368 7.1 8.0 .882 0.9 5.8 6.7 3.0 1.3 1.0 3.2 1.9 26.6

Yes indeed, worlds apart. Melo should thank god he's not relegated to the WNBA given the disparity in these numbers.

They're basically similiar, with a definite edge to Durant offensively. Oh look, Melo gets a whole 1 more Orebound per game! What might that possibly lead to? And Durant turns it over .2 more times per game!!! Over the course of 5 years, that could be huge!!!

Yes, it's homer sarcasm. Relax.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Uptown wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:And if you compare Kobe to both of them first 5yrs Kobe would like pure trash....

Up there they go. Every time someone talk about Melo someone has to pull Kobe out their jazz. Kobe Byrant this. Kobe Byrant that. Kobe alright but compared to Melo and Durant Kobe Byrant aint spit"

He beat Melo & Denver's arse

He did beat Melo's arse.

loved that movie! How the hell the make up artists did that with him was incredible.

all time favorite movie. The make up on Arsenio was great too. Better than the make up today. IMHO. You couldn't tell it was Arsenio on the Greens at all. lol.

"You know, Kuntah from up, Kuntah"

mrKnickShot wrote:

Uptown wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:And if you compare Kobe to both of them first 5yrs Kobe would like pure trash....

Up there they go. Every time someone talk about Melo someone has to pull Kobe out their jazz. Kobe Byrant this. Kobe Byrant that. Kobe alright but compared to Melo and Durant Kobe Byrant aint spit"

He beat Melo & Denver's arse

He did beat Melo's arse.

loved that movie! How the hell the make up artists did that with him was incredible.

I'm staring at the pic now and still cant tell its Eddie Murphy....

KnicksFE wrote:

CashMoney wrote:I've been called crazy for comparing Melo to Durant for some reason. For the life of me I can't understand what makes Durant an elite talent to be spoken in the same regard as Lebron. Yeah he went to the finals with the likes of Westbrook, Ibabaka and new Mr. Franchise Player James Harden.

As far as I'm concerned their games are almost identical. For example;

Duant vs Melo first 5 years in the league both at age 23

Durant
380 GP
FGA 19.1
FGM 8.9
FG% .468
3p% .364
FTA 7.9
TRB 6.6
AST 2.8
STL 1.2
TOV 3.1
BLK 1.0
PTS 26.3

MELO
379 GP
FGA 19.0
FGM 8.8
FG% .462
3p% .294
FTA 7.8
TRB 6.0
AST 3.0
STL 1.1
TOV 3.1
BLK .5
PTS 24.4

So what's the story. Durant in his 1st 5 years is now Mr. Elite but speak of Melo in the same regard and I'm a hopeless homer?

Duran’s humble attitude and willingness to refer to his teammates set him apart (just like Lebrom / Duncan) not many Super Stars would put up with Westbrook crazy shot selection sometimes.

As far as Melo not playing with elite talent, you did not follow the Nuggets when they had Andrew Miller and Iverson in the back court and if I remember correctly STAT was playing at MVP level until Melo showed up so If Melo didn't / don't have another great talent next to him, may be is because he never adjusted his game to make that other talent flourish.

I remember it well. Iverson was traded to the Nugs midway through Melo's 3rd year. First full year together was 07-08 season and AI was traded to Denver during the 2008-2009 season when the Nuggets went to the WCF and lost to the Lakers 4-2. AI was sure that elite talen Melo needed. AI was already 31 and already had 11 years in the league. After AI was traded to Detroit he played a total of 110 games over 3 years.

Yeah, STAT was playing at an MVP level when Melo got here and STAT was playing well with Melo for those 27 games. The Knicks were losing due to the roster turover in the trade. Also if you remember STAT screwed his back up during pre game warmups that season. This was supposed to be the year that Melo and STAT had a full training camp together and could hit the groud running hard from the start.

So really, what talent has Melo had during his career that's comparable to Westbrook? A often injured STAT?

It's Durant, LeBron, Chris Paul

then everyone else

IronWillGiroud wrote:The great debate? There is no debate here, Durant is on another level from Melo,

It's Durant, LeBron, Chris Paul

then everyone else

About 4 weeks of threads ago.

When MElo is at his best he can play with Durant. Problem is KD is consistant and Melo isnt and never has beem. Durant also gets blocks and contests shots. Melo does neither

CashMoney wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

CashMoney wrote:I've been called crazy for comparing Melo to Durant for some reason. For the life of me I can't understand what makes Durant an elite talent to be spoken in the same regard as Lebron. Yeah he went to the finals with the likes of Westbrook, Ibabaka and new Mr. Franchise Player James Harden.

As far as I'm concerned their games are almost identical. For example;

Duant vs Melo first 5 years in the league both at age 23

Durant
380 GP
FGA 19.1
FGM 8.9
FG% .468
3p% .364
FTA 7.9
TRB 6.6
AST 2.8
STL 1.2
TOV 3.1
BLK 1.0
PTS 26.3

MELO
379 GP
FGA 19.0
FGM 8.8
FG% .462
3p% .294
FTA 7.8
TRB 6.0
AST 3.0
STL 1.1
TOV 3.1
BLK .5
PTS 24.4

So what's the story. Durant in his 1st 5 years is now Mr. Elite but speak of Melo in the same regard and I'm a hopeless homer?

Duran’s humble attitude and willingness to refer to his teammates set him apart (just like Lebrom / Duncan) not many Super Stars would put up with Westbrook crazy shot selection sometimes.

As far as Melo not playing with elite talent, you did not follow the Nuggets when they had Andrew Miller and Iverson in the back court and if I remember correctly STAT was playing at MVP level until Melo showed up so If Melo didn't / don't have another great talent next to him, may be is because he never adjusted his game to make that other talent flourish.

I remember it well. Iverson was traded to the Nugs midway through Melo's 3rd year. First full year together was 07-08 season and AI was traded to Denver during the 2008-2009 season when the Nuggets went to the WCF and lost to the Lakers 4-2. AI was sure that elite talen Melo needed. AI was already 31 and already had 11 years in the league. After AI was traded to Detroit he played a total of 110 games over 3 years.

Yeah, STAT was playing at an MVP level when Melo got here and STAT was playing well with Melo for those 27 games. The Knicks were losing due to the roster turover in the trade. Also if you remember STAT screwed his back up during pre game warmups that season. This was supposed to be the year that Melo and STAT had a full training camp together and could hit the groud running hard from the start.

So really, what talent has Melo had during his career that's comparable to Westbrook? A often injured STAT?

At 31 Iverson was still in his prime, if I remember correctly he played all 82 games that season and averaged 26 PPG and 7APG while shooting 45% from the field, Westbrook like numbers if you ask me. As far as STAT, he had played well with Melo from time to times, however, he hasn’t dominate the game the same way he did prior Melo, even when healthy. Sometimes I wondered why Melo ended up taking 25+ shots and STAT only seven or eight. Just my opinion.