knickscity wrote:How does Lin fit in with this convo? The OP said superstar player, not a role player.

It is unrealistic to get another superstar and on more than one level:
1 - We don't (or no longer) have assets to get one in a trade (We can revisit the Melo trade here, but we have another thread for that)
2 - We don't have the salary cap space.

So, our best chance is to get an all star level player here as Melo can clearly do A LOT on his own. Lin could create for himself AND OTHERS better than Felton. He did most things better, not all, but most.

Many of us were leary about bringing on so many older players due to injuries and such. I made that fact known on more than one occasion - using the phrase "If one gets injured it can have a domino like effect on the others." Well, that has happened but not even due to minutes!

All that said, we still have a chance this year if we get everyone back from injuries with enough time to build chemistry. But we have been saying something similar regarding Stat for 2 years now. It is getting old. You don't let talent and potential walk like we did with Lin and we aren't going to let Dolan forget that - we are keeping it in our collective conscious

RonRon wrote:Continued Starphuqing...
highly doubt we can get him but if we can get Rudy Gay
With the recent rumors of Memphis on wanting to move him

His number are down this year but he is defending the opponents best player and he is taking a seat back from scoring with a healthy ZBO, Gasol, playing 3rd option, and TEAM BALL initiating the offense, as they do not have much of a bench

He is right up there in term's of talent, athleticism, ability to score/defend at a high level, and size/versatility
With Woodson and Hopla's shooting, along with the veteran's on how roster, I think he can mature and continue development at an All Star level like JR Smith has added to his game
A huge upgrade in the SG/SF department on both ends on the floor with youth/young legs
Defending both Melo and Gay would be a nightmare on all team's, whether they can coexist and be effective together sharing the spot light in NY is the gamble

NY's Package, salaries add up with 150% rule
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Camby
Novak
JR Smith *probably can't would lose him in the summer*
Filler, Brewer/Kurt Thomas/James White
future 1st rounder
2nd round pick from King's this summer

They probably would insist on Iman Shumpert to be included, in which I would have to turn down though
However, if they do not want both Camby and Novak and wanted either Felton or Kidd instead, it would be a tough decision
If some people felt Melo was an easy trade for the Knick's, I don't see how this package would be a problem for the best player involved, especially since JR Smith has a good shot to be gone after this season

How Iman looks and if he can replace most of what JR Smith bring's this year would be the key
Along with Copeland taking some of the bench scoring as well and Wallace's health

Felton
Kidd
Gay
Melo
Chandler

Iman
Pablo
White or Brewer
STAT/Copeland
Wallace

Would open roster spots to add Kenyon Martin, a PG that could penetrate, and possibly a SG/SF, to add depth

that won't work, carmelo and rudy gay? there is a reason why the team we have was assembled... and it was to make sure carmelo was happy and happy= getting to shoot at will.. gay is a good two way player, but he does need some touches.....

And on top of that, we have absolutely nothing that would get us rudy gay... Nothing.. I am sure memphis is expecting back some young talent and picks as they are trying to cut salary it seems...

tkf wrote:

RonRon wrote:Continued Starphuqing...
highly doubt we can get him but if we can get Rudy Gay
With the recent rumors of Memphis on wanting to move him

His number are down this year but he is defending the opponents best player and he is taking a seat back from scoring with a healthy ZBO, Gasol, playing 3rd option, and TEAM BALL initiating the offense, as they do not have much of a bench

He is right up there in term's of talent, athleticism, ability to score/defend at a high level, and size/versatility
With Woodson and Hopla's shooting, along with the veteran's on how roster, I think he can mature and continue development at an All Star level like JR Smith has added to his game
A huge upgrade in the SG/SF department on both ends on the floor with youth/young legs
Defending both Melo and Gay would be a nightmare on all team's, whether they can coexist and be effective together sharing the spot light in NY is the gamble

NY's Package, salaries add up with 150% rule
----------------------------------------------

Camby
Novak
JR Smith *probably can't would lose him in the summer*
Filler, Brewer/Kurt Thomas/James White
future 1st rounder
2nd round pick from King's this summer

They probably would insist on Iman Shumpert to be included, in which I would have to turn down though
However, if they do not want both Camby and Novak and wanted either Felton or Kidd instead, it would be a tough decision
If some people felt Melo was an easy trade for the Knick's, I don't see how this package would be a problem for the best player involved, especially since JR Smith has a good shot to be gone after this season

How Iman looks and if he can replace most of what JR Smith bring's this year would be the key
Along with Copeland taking some of the bench scoring as well and Wallace's health

Felton
Kidd
Gay
Melo
Chandler

Iman
Pablo
White or Brewer
STAT/Copeland
Wallace

Would open roster spots to add Kenyon Martin, a PG that could penetrate, and possibly a SG/SF, to add depth

that won't work, carmelo and rudy gay? there is a reason why the team we have was assembled... and it was to make sure carmelo was happy and happy= getting to shoot at will.. gay is a good two way player, but he does need some touches.....

And on top of that, we have absolutely nothing that would get us rudy gay... Nothing.. I am sure memphis is expecting back some young talent and picks as they are trying to cut salary it seems...

Papabear Says

I think you are wrong. Melo must understand that in order to win a championship you need another star and if what you are saying is true Melo don't want a ring. We won't get one with the team we have. I have more faith in Melo. I am questioning the coach allowing too many 3s and we all know that Amare's best days are behind him. When Felton comes back Melo won't be getting all those touches you can bet Chandler and Stat will be more involved.

TKF You are taking the Melo hate to another level and it is not healty. It's only a game man. All these players got theres. They are getting paid big time so stop stressing and enjoy the game. Melo will be here for the next 5 - 6 years. He is a money draw. Dolan loves him. So what are you going to do?? That a lot of hate to carry for just a sports event. You will be stressing and Mele will have that grin and smile counting his millions. What will you be doing??

DurzoBlint wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:Let's not get caught on Howard, even though I believe that WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY, THAT'S WHY MY NAME IS IRON WILL

The point is that we need a SECOND KAHUNA!!!

Imo, Amar'e contract worse than Houston by a mile!!! We went to the Finals with Houston, nuff said

BEFORE THE SURGERY. Post surgery Houston barely sniffed the playoffs.

We went to the Finals with Spree. Houston wouldn't have gotten to the playoffs with the '86 Celtics.