holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

holfresh wrote:Come on guys..If u are dong a true analysis, this isn't about Woodson...This about a team that has lost it's way without a PG who can get in the lane...Kidd isn't a PG anymore...Prigs is just too slow...No one out there who can get Amare looks...We have two guys who can get their own looks, Melo and JR...We should try to pick a PG on the cheap...

I think you're right but it still does have to do with Woodson. Hinrich today wasnt exactly getting layup after layup. Woodsons offense as of late has involved little to no ball movement, off ball movement, or plays. When Thibs doesnt have a PG to get into the lane and create for others, he has his players move without the ball and pass freely. Woodson - tonight, at least - had his players give the ball to Melo and move out the way.

Well if JKidd is on the court and there is no ball movement, what does that tell u??...We have White and KT starting...Two dudes who probably should not be on the team...Novak gives u nothing, but gets burn..Melo had a bad start..JR shooting badly..What should coach do???..Bring in Brewer??

Oh god no

The team still moved the ball beofre when Felton wasnt playing (earlier in the season when he was benched and the game right after he went down). Im not saying Feltons not important. I cant wait until he comes back and I was someone who was extremely critical of him in the weeks preceding his injury. You dont think theres a serious lack of offense here?

I think we are built on him getting in the lane...I don't think the amount of shots he takes is totally on him..I think the coach tells him his is how he has to proceed...But his judgement is just poor.. I think he has to take good shots but when Melo was hurt he went nuts...I'm really not worried...I think we will see the pick and roll when he gets back coupled with Melo doing his thing...It's also nice to see Camby make some passes...Sheed will help...Big thing is getting Amare and Felton in rhythm before the playoffs...I still think we need another PG who can get in the lane...But we are what we are...Shump will be huge just to give Kidd a break...

Shump is a defender, Guard/lock down defender 1st
Shump is a alternate PG at best & isnt a Point guard whom does the things Chris Paul, M.Connelly, T.Parker and rest of top notch
PGs does

This isnt to slight fabulous talents of Shump, he will help
but more as defender and all around 2 way play moreso than PG play
*fact

DJMUSIC wrote:By the way BULLs are missing their TOP player or 1 of five best players in NBA, his name Derrick Rose
and team still whacks your ass, anytime , any day OR any gym. No sensible Knick fan can accept the way they've lost games

3 losses were not even close to BULLs
2 losses (N/A out of conference) to ROCKETs were not even close.

And by the way the 2 whackings Knicks gave Miami Heat forget about it, we only care how we play & playing the game the right way
The right way is what this is really all about ..players and coaches.

There isnt a coaching issue & I'm quite happy with Woody the Knicks coach.
Lets us not forgot coaches coach and players play, So improvements needed to be done. Long season
but NY has some things to fix.

*kinks in the armor

We don't have Felton, Shump and Amare isn't up to speed...Amare need Felton...I like our chances...This isn't about today or tomorrow's game....It's about the playoffs..Getting ourselves in position to compete...We saw a glimpse of what we could be...Now we have to figure how to work Amare and Shump into the mix...BIg picture my man...U fret the small stuff...We look bad tonight and the last few days..We don't have a capable PG right now..We will soon...

JamesKPolk wrote:Eventually people will realize Woodson is a mediocre head coach.

I've said this all along and I continue to stand by it. You will realize it come playoff time.

Bonn1997 wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:Eventually people will realize Woodson is a mediocre head coach.

I've said this all along and I continue to stand by it. You will realize it come playoff time.

The team was hot for his first few dozen games here and I think people thought he was a magician.

So Knicks success= fluke, Knick struggles= truth? Got it.

What have you done for us lately, Woody?

sebstar wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:Eventually people will realize Woodson is a mediocre head coach.

I've said this all along and I continue to stand by it. You will realize it come playoff time.

The team was hot for his first few dozen games here and I think people thought he was a magician.

So Knicks success= fluke, Knick struggles= truth? Got it.

What have you done for us lately, Woody?

you got it dude! Never mind that the failures pale in comparison to the successes. Woody started out like 39-14 in regular season games here, but a minor valley of a stretch, and they say..."oh, thats the real woodson now"

SMH, straight up, too many idiots post here for real.

Can only speak for myself here but my only real complaints of Woodson right now is his over reliance on iso plays now that Felton is out. It was extra apparent while playing the Bulls last night and seeing how the operated without constant PG penetration. I know that once we're healthy, things will return to normal. However, the game plan doesn need a bit of an adjustment until then.

I can't be mad at a guy or team for having a little slump, we all slump at times in life, it's a process, but I can be mad at a guy and a team if this slump ends up derailing the season. I want my 50 or more wins and I want a Second Round, at least!!!!

VCoug wrote:He needs to get over bringing JR off the bench. JR needs to start at SG until we get healthier and Melo needs to be playing most of his minutes at PF where he's much better suited.

Last thing we need to do is start JR. I think last night proved that point when he started JR in the 2nd half and we went from iso melo to iso JR and Melo at the same time while freezing out the others mainly Amare even more so

Bonn1997 wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:Eventually people will realize Woodson is a mediocre head coach.

I've said this all along and I continue to stand by it. You will realize it come playoff time.

The team was hot for his first few dozen games here and I think people thought he was a magician.

Most of them still do. Basically we have no discernible offense, our DPOY has disappeared and our championship caliber team is being exposed everyday.

JamesKPolk wrote:Eventually people will realize Woodson is a mediocre head coach.

I've said this all along and I continue to stand by it. You will realize it come playoff time.

Start Over.

sheesh.

Vmart wrote:I agree I think Woody is allowing the players to act stupid. He himself has done this.

He sure is. This teams has recently been play to much iso football. The team is running the same kind of Iso's that Woody used for Joe Johnson when he was in ATL. I am getting tired of it.