Author | Thread |
AUTOADVERT |
RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() Really impressed with Pierre Jackson's handle/shot/speed and quickness/ penetration ability to finish/ and court vision/ ability to shoot on and off the dribble
Every draft, there are players that will be doubted/questioned for their size, and he will be one when of his draft class I think Pierre Jackson looks more like a CP3 lite to me, in between the size of Nate Robinson/ Cp3/TJ Ford and lowest Scott Machado?? As Cp3 being his highest potential ceiling and possibly somewhere between Isiah Thomas/Ty Lawson/Darren Collison/TJ Ford/Nate Robinson being more realistic
|
RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() I think we all see that Kidd cannot give many minutes at PG at his age especially for next year and the remainder of his contract/as he gets older
Would love to add Charles Jenkins to the roster as well I really think Pierre Jackson can be a huge steal if we could buy a mid/late 2nd round pick? I like him so much, I think the Knick's should consider trading down for him if we cannot get another pick However, if Iman show's signs that can play some PG minutes offensively with Kidd's guidance it wouldn't make sense to pick Pierre Jackson and get Jenkin's though |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
![]() RonRon wrote:yeah, its still early, gotta wait till mid March for some hype Mcdermott is much more Wally Z he looks nothing like Morrison hes put together and has a toughness about his game. I think he might be number 1 PER in all of college basketball. Hes not a lead type player but a guy who could go with a Carmelo Anthony very well. When you are 6-9 and can play like he does---hes going to be a good nba player. RIP Crushalot😞
|
RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() BRIGGS wrote:RonRon wrote:yeah, its still early, gotta wait till mid March for some hype I was referring to Gonzaga's big vs Copeland Briggs what do u think about Pierre Jackson vs Charles Jenkins if available as our backup PG's for next season? |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
![]() RonRon wrote:BRIGGS wrote:RonRon wrote:yeah, its still early, gotta wait till mid March for some hype Pierre Jackson is too small I do like Jenkins he could play if given a chance..hes more of a small 2 g than pg but close enough. RIP Crushalot😞
|
Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
![]() Phil Pressey FTW, the guy has starter potential and is a true general............he probably moves out of our range though.
"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
|
RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() I think Pierre Jackson can be that diamond in the rough, he has a little bit of Kemba Walker/Isiah Thomas in him
I do agree though we can probably only take a shot at undersized player like Jenkins or Jackson, as I do like both of them |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
![]() Anji wrote:Phil Pressey FTW, the guy has starter potential and is a true general............he probably moves out of our range though. Id put my 5 bucks Nate Wolters is better than both of them. Those are two very smallish G's who dont shoot that well. Wolters is a legit 6-4 with much more PG talent than he has shown. I like tall PG's if I can get them. He has to improve his long range shooting but after that you have what could be the next Steve Nash. RIP Crushalot😞
|
RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() BRIGGS wrote:Anji wrote:Phil Pressey FTW, the guy has starter potential and is a true general............he probably moves out of our range though. Calderon or Lowry? I personally would much rather have a PG that has speed/quickness rather than size without physical abilities of a freak like Westbrook Jackson know's how to use his speed and quickness to set up other's, as well as for himself, has a pretty good shot as well, on and off the ball Kemba/Cp3/Nate Robinson/Isiah Thomas are players that I see Jackson developing in to with fair comparisons physically with a good understanding of the game I also think they should look to pick up DJO as a high risk/reward on their roster, but doubt it will happen with Woodys preference to be veterans...
|
callmened
Posts: 24448 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/26/2012 Member: #4234 |
![]() I used to play AND watch college basketball. I loved it however it sucks now. LOL. These prospects (including the lottery ones) are simply too raw and too hard to evaluate. I agree with BRIGGS that the top prospects are Shabazz, Austin, Plumlee, Zeller, McCullum and McLemore however NONE of these are a sure bet.
This is one of the few areas where I agree with knicks management. I dont think its worth it to invest in these draft picks. Too much of uncertainty...especially outside the lottery. I dont think there will be much talent at the end of the first round. Instead, Id rather invest (without overpaying) in 2-3rd yr players (who wouldve just graduated college) who have tasted the NBA a lil and now you can have a better evaluation of their potential (i.e. B. Mullins, Hill on lakers etc). Lastly, the college game is almost unwatchable now. Zone defenses playing offenses that CANT shoot. It becomes a foul shooting contest Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
|
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
![]() Not worth it now but when we traded away 2 lottery picks that became LaMarcus Aldridge and Noah or Trade Nene and Camby for Mcdyess it was a big deal and terrible investment.
|
RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() gunsnewing wrote:Not worth it now but when we traded away 2 lottery picks that became LaMarcus Aldridge and Noah or Trade Nene and Camby for Mcdyess it was a big deal and terrible investment. Yeah, with the picks, especially lottery picks we have had in about the last decade, we could have had a pretty solid team, but as NY, it was the gamble we made to *STARPHUQ* like a Ibaka/Taj Gibson/Marc Gasol, although they take time to develop, these are the type of players that we should be looking to acquire because of their ceilings and FIT or a stretch 4 like Ryan Anderson/Ilyasova
Just saying, with Kidd here, I just don't see the need for Pablo and would rather have someone younger with upside that could penetrate much better |
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
![]() and David Lee was pick 30. I trust this Knicks regime to make those kind of quality late 1st round/early 2nd round picks as long as we have picks
|
yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
![]() If Patrick Young comes out(he really needs to stay) he still would be a nice fit. He could be a Festus Ezili type. I have seen them both battle and Young held his own. Needs to mature but he is a specimen. That if he focus on blks and boards he'll stay in the league.
|
callmened
Posts: 24448 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/26/2012 Member: #4234 |
![]() I agree. I think patrk young will be a stud. Hes built like a tank
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
|
yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
![]() callmened wrote:I agree. I think patrk young will be a stud. Hes built like a tank I think he has along ways to go but he would be a great energy guy. He plays in a heavy PnR offense and UF puts out quality players. |
RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() Patric Young compared to Festus Ezeli's game/raw with Brandon Bass's size are fair comparisons with a peak ceiling of Horford/Hickson
In the college level, he could use his athleticism/size/agility to dominate, and elevating/translating it in the NBA level will take some time/development No one else here agrees with me about Pierre Jackson?? |
VDesai
Posts: 42816 Alba Posts: 44 Joined: 10/28/2003 Member: #477 USA |
![]() Doug McDermott most underrated player out there. Shoots as efficiently as any player I have seen. Not often you see a guy at close to 60% FG and 50% 3PT. He might be the best player in the country right now from the offensive end.
|
Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
![]() BRIGGS wrote:Anji wrote:Phil Pressey FTW, the guy has starter potential and is a true general............he probably moves out of our range though. In my eyes though, the huge point guard is mostly a bust in the NBA. I know nothing about this guy, but being 6'4 doesn't mean much if you aren't athletic enough to beat the second defender to the hoop or guard anybody. And if he is more of a scorer than a point guard getting by on his height in college, he'll likely bust too. "Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
|