IronWillGiroud wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:He'll strengthen all over, so he can carry the weight

Its still 20 more lbs on the knees. If he was a post player and 5-10 years younger I would agree with you. I think it was Stat who said he regretted bulking up for this reason but I could be wrong.

It's 20 more pounds but his knees are also getting stronger, the muscles around the joint are getting stronger

I'm really hesitant to believe anything out of Amar'e's mouth, been saying since last year that he just needs to stfu and play hard, then maybe talk later, to be honest it didn't look like he bulked up last year, it was probably all in his head,

Moonangie Why try to turn a specialist into a general purpose role player. I just want him to nail those three's and occasionally block a shot, intercept a pass or make a sweet assist. But his value is his shooting, plain and simple.

Because he doesn't need to lose his speciality, it would be win win for everyone if he had more bulk to bang against the big boys,

Novak will never bang with the big boys.Thats like asking Allen Houston to do that back in the day.Novak is a shooter and thats his forte,leave him at that.

It's nothing like that, Houston was a complete scorer. Novak literally just shoots threes.

It's hard to see him out there looking like that,

I mean it's good he's made it to the NBA and he is so good at shooting, but I don't see why a professional athlete wouldn't want to expand his game a little bit,

And gaining strength is so stupidly simple that it blows my mind he hasn't done anything about it in all his NBA years,

Doesn't need to lose his specialty, all he can do is gain from increasing his strength

I was talking about you saying Novak should bang with the big boys,did houston bang?? NO and neither should Novak. Reading comprehension lessons 2 door down will.

Go to that room 2 doors down, you throw context to the wolves,

Novak is 6'10" or 11", he can box big guys out with his height and more muscle

OK Im only going to say this one time,Novak is 30 yrs old boxing out isnt part of his game. Thats like asking Amare to lose 20 lbs and be a guard,AINT GONNA HAPPEN Im done discussing this

You're focusing too much on the 'boxing out' like a blind shelther dog,

The point is that more strength is ALWAYS better, and Novak lacks physical strength,

Increasing his STRENGTH would benefit his game in ways that we cannot imagine right now, and it is a myth that he would lose his speciality shooting

Will,you believe what you want.Im fine with Novak as he is,just has to get that fake like was said before. As long as he has the strength to nail 3pters at a good rate Im ok with him. Next topic.

cooch2584 wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:He'll strengthen all over, so he can carry the weight

Its still 20 more lbs on the knees. If he was a post player and 5-10 years younger I would agree with you. I think it was Stat who said he regretted bulking up for this reason but I could be wrong.

It's 20 more pounds but his knees are also getting stronger, the muscles around the joint are getting stronger

I'm really hesitant to believe anything out of Amar'e's mouth, been saying since last year that he just needs to stfu and play hard, then maybe talk later, to be honest it didn't look like he bulked up last year, it was probably all in his head,

Moonangie Why try to turn a specialist into a general purpose role player. I just want him to nail those three's and occasionally block a shot, intercept a pass or make a sweet assist. But his value is his shooting, plain and simple.

Because he doesn't need to lose his speciality, it would be win win for everyone if he had more bulk to bang against the big boys,

Novak will never bang with the big boys.Thats like asking Allen Houston to do that back in the day.Novak is a shooter and thats his forte,leave him at that.

It's nothing like that, Houston was a complete scorer. Novak literally just shoots threes.

It's hard to see him out there looking like that,

I mean it's good he's made it to the NBA and he is so good at shooting, but I don't see why a professional athlete wouldn't want to expand his game a little bit,

And gaining strength is so stupidly simple that it blows my mind he hasn't done anything about it in all his NBA years,

Doesn't need to lose his specialty, all he can do is gain from increasing his strength

I was talking about you saying Novak should bang with the big boys,did houston bang?? NO and neither should Novak. Reading comprehension lessons 2 door down will.

Go to that room 2 doors down, you throw context to the wolves,

Novak is 6'10" or 11", he can box big guys out with his height and more muscle

OK Im only going to say this one time,Novak is 30 yrs old boxing out isnt part of his game. Thats like asking Amare to lose 20 lbs and be a guard,AINT GONNA HAPPEN Im done discussing this

You're focusing too much on the 'boxing out' like a blind shelther dog,

The point is that more strength is ALWAYS better, and Novak lacks physical strength,

Increasing his STRENGTH would benefit his game in ways that we cannot imagine right now, and it is a myth that he would lose his speciality shooting

Will,you believe what you want.Im fine with Novak as he is,just has to get that fake like was said before. As long as he has the strength to nail 3pters at a good rate Im ok with him. Next topic.

I guess cooch gon be cooch

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Even if he stayed the same weight or just gained a few pounds, he could should be able to get much stronger. I'm amazed that a guy who's been in the NBA that long has the body he has.

Yea, exactly, I never really thought about it until you pointed it out earlier this year in the Will's GameDay Art,

I don't think he needs to worry about his knees either. Most guys who weigh much more than he does and play far more minutes are fine. You can't look at him and honestly say, "this guy better not put any more weight on - it's gonna kill his knees!"

If your pushing 30, running around for 82 games, and aren't used to carrying the weight, its not going to help them either. I have no problem with Novak trying to get stronger though. You don't have to put on 20bs to get stronger.

I agree with the getting stronger but not putting on weight thing,but not the other way around.

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:If the extra weight is fat, it's a bad thing. If it's muscle, it will help preserve his knees. The stronger the muscles, the more they rather than the joints absorb impact. That's why physical therapy includes strength training. Can you think of any NBA players who added muscle and it ended up killing their knees? I can't.

Not when they're almost 30 no, because most players don't add weight at this stage in their career. If anything they try to lose weight.
Like I said, if he was a younger man I could understand the reasoning.

It's not really about adding weight but gaining strength, usually some weight gain is involved in this process but it's a weight gain that the body is prepared to handle because of the accompanying increase in strength,

When a player becomes stronger his enitre body, his complete system is stronger,

I'm not saying he should start shooting steroids and doing bicep curls, I'm saying that he needs more overall strength,

What this added strength would enable him to do, we don't know, but we do know that it wouldn't hurt him, it can only help him. He's already a willing defender, he has height, he has a tremendous three point shot, I don't see why he should be averse to adding some muscle, it can only make him a more complete player,

And I am also surprised that he's been in the league all these years with his current build, 30 years old is not too late to become stronger, it never is, it can only prolong his career

IronWillGiroud wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:If the extra weight is fat, it's a bad thing. If it's muscle, it will help preserve his knees. The stronger the muscles, the more they rather than the joints absorb impact. That's why physical therapy includes strength training. Can you think of any NBA players who added muscle and it ended up killing their knees? I can't.

Not when they're almost 30 no, because most players don't add weight at this stage in their career. If anything they try to lose weight.
Like I said, if he was a younger man I could understand the reasoning.

It's not really about adding weight but gaining strength, usually some weight gain is involved in this process but it's a weight gain that the body is prepared to handle because of the accompanying increase in strength,

When a player becomes stronger his enitre body, his complete system is stronger,

I'm not saying he should start shooting steroids and doing bicep curls, I'm saying that he needs more overall strength,

What this added strength would enable him to do, we don't know, but we do know that it wouldn't hurt him, it can only help him. He's already a willing defender, he has height, he has a tremendous three point shot, I don't see why he should be averse to adding some muscle, it can only make him a more complete player,

And I am also surprised that he's been in the league all these years with his current build, 30 years old is not too late to become stronger, it never is, it can only prolong his career

5-10 lbs wouldn't be a big deal. We'll just have to agree to disagree on 20 lbs. Just feels like overkill at this point IMO.