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RonRon
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12/29/2012  1:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2012  2:50 AM
Hoping Nate Robinson gets cut so Bulls save money and play Teague and eventually Rose to save PT...

Would love anyone outside of Steve Blake, Novak himself isn't getting u those type of player

a trade for Ridnour or JJ Barea, maybe for Twolves with Rubio coming back healthy and Shved with Budinger out?
Twolves are missing a Shooter at the forward spot....
Novak and future 1st rounder seems to be a, realistic, fair, and good trade for both teams

The only ones on our roster that has trade value are

Iman
JR Smith

Kidd
Copeland

Chandler

Melo


Jack is a big part of GS success this year
Charles Jenkins however might be available, maybe at a very reasonable offer too
A younger, smaller, shooter, that resembles Billups, that lit it at times, last year, with minutes due to Curry's injury

I think a Sessions type PG is exactly what we need.
Would love to add Bledsoe but would not put Iman for him either...

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12/29/2012  3:38 AM
Anji wrote:Novack for Raymond Sessions
Novack for Aaron Brooks
Novack for Steve Blake
Novack for Will Bynum

Session is probably the best bet. He can run the PnR and distribute. Brooks and Bynum shoot way too much for my liking and Blake, well, I'd rather just stick it out with Kidd and Prigs if he's the option.

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12/29/2012  4:24 AM
People were throwing Felton under the bus due to his field goal percentage (and in true 'what have you done for me lately' fashion, had erased everything he's done for us from their memory), and now he's been gone one game they suddenly realise that the prediction 'it's addition by subtraction' might actually be wrong!

You ain't getting a descent back up PG at this point- the Lakers were without Nash and Blake, and were losing and still couldn't source a decent back up. And has anyone considered maybe trading James White instead of just cutting him?

And please, no one suggest Bibby or Derek Fisher!

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12/29/2012  8:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2012  8:57 AM
I go back and forth with you guys arguing about the game and the team...I'm just amazed that many of you have no clue what Felton means to this team...I do understand he does take some god awful shots at times...He maybe needs to cut 5 to 7 shots out of his repertoire... But did you guys miss all of last season???..Do you guys not understand what stability he brings to the lineup and other player games...Do you not know what he means to JKidd's game, Chandler's game and even Melo to some extent...The defensive pressure he brings...20-8 with him in the line up is no coincidence...Amazing..I'm most concern about Amare and how he fits without Felton..
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12/29/2012  9:18 AM
I might be crazy but I think Melo being out is more important than Felton.

Definetly no to Bibby.

smackeddog wrote:People were throwing Felton under the bus due to his field goal percentage (and in true 'what have you done for me lately' fashion, had erased everything he's done for us from their memory), and now he's been gone one game they suddenly realise that the prediction 'it's addition by subtraction' might actually be wrong!

You ain't getting a descent back up PG at this point- the Lakers were without Nash and Blake, and were losing and still couldn't source a decent back up. And has anyone considered maybe trading James White instead of just cutting him?

And please, no one suggest Bibby or Derek Fisher!

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12/29/2012  9:26 AM
Anji wrote:Novack for Raymond Sessions
Novack for Aaron Brooks
Novack for Steve Blake
Novack for Will Bynum

Why would Charlotte, Sacramento, LAL, or Detroit agree to that trade?

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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12/29/2012  9:28 AM
nykshaknbake wrote:I might be crazy but I think Melo being out is more important than Felton.

Definetly no to Bibby.

smackeddog wrote:People were throwing Felton under the bus due to his field goal percentage (and in true 'what have you done for me lately' fashion, had erased everything he's done for us from their memory), and now he's been gone one game they suddenly realise that the prediction 'it's addition by subtraction' might actually be wrong!

You ain't getting a descent back up PG at this point- the Lakers were without Nash and Blake, and were losing and still couldn't source a decent back up. And has anyone considered maybe trading James White instead of just cutting him?

And please, no one suggest Bibby or Derek Fisher!

Before certain posters decide Felton is the most irreplaceable player on the team maybe we could wait to see what we look like with Melo back in the lineup.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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12/29/2012  9:55 AM
This board is just about absolutes...It's not about one player over the other...Yes, Melo is the most important piece we have..YES!!!!...But we saw Melo bringing up the ball last year, didn't we???...Felton brings stability that make the team play the roles..JKidd is no longer a full time PG, Prigs can't keep up with the pace...JR is bringing up the ball and is now a decision maker for a good part of the game, good or bad???...We could run JKidd into the ground the next four weeks..We saw him last night after two games, what will he look like after two weeks??..Appreciate what you have, 20-8...
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12/29/2012  10:02 AM
VCoug wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:I might be crazy but I think Melo being out is more important than Felton.

Definetly no to Bibby.

smackeddog wrote:People were throwing Felton under the bus due to his field goal percentage (and in true 'what have you done for me lately' fashion, had erased everything he's done for us from their memory), and now he's been gone one game they suddenly realise that the prediction 'it's addition by subtraction' might actually be wrong!

You ain't getting a descent back up PG at this point- the Lakers were without Nash and Blake, and were losing and still couldn't source a decent back up. And has anyone considered maybe trading James White instead of just cutting him?

And please, no one suggest Bibby or Derek Fisher!

Before certain posters decide Felton is the most irreplaceable player on the team maybe we could wait to see what we look like with Melo back in the lineup.

Well of course thats going to help because it will take some PnR duties away from kid. Also, I wouldn't trade Novak at all unless it's getting the Knicks Ryan Anderson. People are over reacting to one game. I may want a pg but this team was built correctly it seems to with stand the injuries that occur. The only real time to think about trades is when Shump and Amar'e come back becuase they will push players down the depth chart.

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12/29/2012  10:31 AM
Have Kidd and Prigi died or something?
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12/29/2012  11:09 AM
NUPE wrote:Have Kidd and Prigi died or something?

No, but we really need to limit Kidds minutes (and pray he doesn't get anymore back spasms), and Prigi is very inconsistent- some games he's good, some he avoids open shots and just seems to want to do his patented 'bounce pass turnover' move. Both are a step slow for some of the younger PGs in the league- watch that rookie Blazers PG have a career night vs us.

This month is going to be difficult- haven't forgotten last years arguments as to who should start TD or Bibby, followed by watching a breaking down Baron Davis play too many minutes with too many ailments until his entire leg exploded.

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12/29/2012  12:01 PM
Felton's biggest attributes are keeping Kidd fresh, limiting TO's and penetrating some. If he cuts his shots down to around 8-10 from 16, 21 & 30 and looks for his teammates more, with Amare and Melo coming back, we might be able to get by with him this year.
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12/29/2012  12:22 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Felton's biggest attributes are keeping Kidd fresh, limiting TO's and penetrating some. If he cuts his shots down to around 8-10 from 16, 21 & 30 and looks for his teammates more, with Amare and Melo coming back, we might be able to get by with him this year.

Ha, 'might be able to get by with him'- we were 20-8 with him as our starting PG! While I think you downplay his positive impact on our team, I agree he'd be more effective if he he cut down the shots- think he would have if Amar'e had been playing.

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12/29/2012  12:30 PM
Might be able to get by in the playoffs I mean. 21-9 is good but he can shoot us out of the playoffs if he takes as much or more shots than Melo, Amare and Smith
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12/29/2012  12:59 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Might be able to get by in the playoffs I mean. 21-9 is good but he can shoot us out of the playoffs if he takes as much or more shots than Melo, Amare and Smith

Ha, thought you were being a bit stingy! Actually, the thing you should be worried about is that Felton seems to be one of those players who becomes worse in the playoffs than he is in the regular season. He's only been there twice (once with the Bobcats and once with the Nuggets), so maybe he just needed a bit of experience under his belt, but it is the thing I've been worrying about. Doesn't seem to take many shots though! (about 10 per game)

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12/29/2012  1:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2012  1:48 PM
Were his minutes reduced?

I'm hoping that with a healthy Melo and Amare his shots will have to go down

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12/29/2012  1:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2012  1:46 PM
I could be wrong but I think what Felton was doing is part of Woody's game plan...What Woodson has done is take the different facets of what made his players successful and incorporate it into his offensive game plan...Felton played his best two years ago being aggressive, getting into the lane..He was about getting other players looks, drawing attention, dishing off his penetration...He was taking 14 shots per game during that time( career high at the time), he is now doing the same taking 16 shots per game, career high now...Chandler, a few pick and roll...Melo is now playing the type of game that now suits his particular skills...A few post ups..Catching it on the elbow and shooting a few threes...Dribble penetration...I have no doubt when Amare comes back they will try to integrate him into the offense doing the things that most suits his game...We need Felton to make it happen...Felton shot attemts will fall into line towards his career numbers when we are fully healthy...But saying all that...There is so much more this guy does to help us win and take the pressure off others by his aggressiveness and his defensive play...Shot attempts does not tell the entire story or we wouldn't have been 20-8 with him playing his game...
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12/29/2012  1:47 PM
This team misses Felton more than anyone on here will give credit to.
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12/29/2012  2:20 PM
holfresh wrote:I could be wrong but I think what Felton was doing is part of Woody's game plan...What Woodson has done is take the different facets of what made his players successful and incorporate it into his offensive game plan...Felton played his best two years ago being aggressive, getting into the lane..He was about getting other players looks, drawing attention, dishing off his penetration...He was taking 14 shots per game during that time( career high at the time), he is now doing the same taking 16 shots per game, career high now...Chandler, a few pick and roll...Melo is now playing the type of game that now suits his particular skills...A few post ups..Catching it on the elbow and shooting a few threes...Dribble penetration...I have no doubt when Amare comes back they will try to integrate him into the offense doing the things that most suits his game...We need Felton to make it happen...Felton shot attemts will fall into line towards his career numbers when we are fully healthy...But saying all that...There is so much more this guy does to help us win and take the pressure off others by his aggressiveness and his defensive play...Shot attempts does not tell the entire story or we wouldn't have been 20-8 with him playing his game...

Didn't Felton and also Alan Hahn say that he preferred to pass, but the defense started playing him differently, meaning they took away the pass and kind of forced him to shoot?

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12/29/2012  2:24 PM
yep and he is a career 40% shooter with an awful player efficiency ratings
We need a PG

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