gunsnewing wrote:Yea I really enjoyed living in the moment during the Isiah, marbury, tim thomas, jerome james, eddy curry, mo taylor, malik rose, Qrich, penny hardaway, steve, francis, nazr mohammed, channing frye, Dantoni, nate robinson, jamal crawford & jared jeffries years

All the more reason to enjoy this season since this team is nothing like those teams.

These types of one line fillers (from Bonn1997) are only used to antagonize, troll and/or derail a thread such as this one. It's actually something that happens very often around here. Same goes for Nalod and his sarcastic remarks and/or post's about Christmas, Santa, the Easter Bunny, the North Pole, mentioning Melo's name in a sarcastic light and/or mocking type of way etc, etc. Everything and anything opposite of what this thread was actually created for. No one asked for their negativity and/or for them to chime in with guilty conscience types of sarcastic remarks. But, they couldn't hold back. I'll cut it down with some cliff notes for those who can read between the lines. I'll "elaborate".

We'ere spending so much energy and/or time arguing with some of these unsatisfiable, negative, 24/7 types of naysaying critics when instead, we could be enjoying one of the greatest starts to a single season our fan base has ever seen. As some of you can tell, just mentioning the fact that we're spending too much energy and/or time arguing with some of these unsatisfiable negative critics gets their panties in a bunch. These types of sports fans won't be satisfied as a person until we win a championship and/or until ex Knicks "win a championship" in order to show us "just how right" they really were.

It's sad when you can't post about the greatest Knick since Ewing having a potentially MVP type of season without being called out due to "LeBron and Durant" and/or considered a "circle jerk party" when talking up a currently outstanding season in regards to Melo himself leading our Knicks. 20-7 overall. Only 1 1/2 games back of the OKC Thunder for the best record in all of basketball.

These naysaying critics? A grain of salt when looking at the grand scheme of things. We're true Eastern Conference Contenders for the first time dating back to the 1990's. Our deepest team maybe of all-time in regards to overall talent and depth from top to bottom. Our fan base has only seen four Atlantic Division crowns. I've only seen two during the 90's. Even with Ewing, we were not winning the Atlantic. As of right now we're 5/12 games up on Brooklyn and could very well be on the verge of witnessing something in which has only happened at a clip of once every 16.5 years; An Atlantic Division Banner hanging from the rafters. Don't tell that to these negative critics though.

I'm enjoying a certain type of feeling that I haven't had since childhood days in regards to our Knicks. The same feelings I had with Ewing? It's now with Melo and these Knicks. These negative critics can't handle this truth. It upsets them to know that Melo's the greatest all-around Knick since Patrick Ewing. These types of threads get under their skin. They can't stand the fact that heading into these games, that thousands upon thousands of Knick fans (such as myself) can't stop thinking about and/or wondering what Melo's on the verge of doing next. Last night struggled all night (as all the great ones do) before exploding out of no where for 19 fourt quarter points against not only a Wolves opponent but also against the refs.

As a fan base, we welcomed Melo with open arms as well. In numbers too. Remember his first Knicks intro? Why did the heart and soul of our fan base welcome Carmelo Anthony with open eyes? Because our fan base not only knew, but we also had an understanding that we were on the verge of landing the greatest Knick since Patrick Ewing himself. Madison Square Garden and the Knicks faithful have Melo's back with 100% support. Melo's at the free throw linelast night with under two minutes to go, and what do we hear out of the Mecca? We hear chants of MVP. MVP. MVP. Chants of MVP for our greatest Knick since #33 of his prime years. But yet, we can't enjoy his performance in which has been MVP worthy due to the fact that these nay-saying critics 'say so'? They'll bring up LeBron and Durtant as a way of harping all over our top 5 NBA all-world talent.

We see threads such as "Losing is acceptable to the Knicks". If losing is "acceptable" then please explain why we've lost two consecutive (back to back) games only once this season. 88-76 vs the Pacers. 121-100 vs the Pistons. 102-88 @ the Bucks. 112-106 vs the Nuggets. 100-86 vs the Nets. 94-91 vs Minny. All coming off loses. 20-7 overall. It seems as if our Knicks actually respond strong as ever coming off of loses. Don't let the fact's get in the way of these types of topics though. Kidd. Melo. Chandler. Rasheed. Camby and Kurt Thomas have all accepted losing? I'm sure guys such as Pablo, J.R Smith, Novak and Brewer "accept losing" as well?

20-7. One of the greatest starts to a season we've ever seen. Enjoying our greatest Knick talent since Ewing himself in Carmelo Anthony. 12-2 home record. Only 1 1/2 games back of the OKC Thunder for the best record in all of basketball. The deepest Knicks team some of us have ever seen dating back to the early 1990's. On the verge of enjoying a Christmas day matchup against a storied franchise such as the Lakers. It's Los Angeles vs New York. We've returned to the spot light.

They only have one choice. To deal with it.

NYKMentality wrote:It seems as if only the posters with a guilty conscience are the one's who've attemped to mock me during this thread while resorting to posting with sarcastic remarks. When the truth hurts, the'll then attempt to derail these types of threads while trolling at the same time. It's what they do best; it's in their post count. Bonn1997 is the perfect example. He joins this thread only to provide us with a one line filler used in order to derail a posters thought's such as "Can you elaborate on that"? Well, I will elaborate.

These types of one line fillers (from Bonn1997) are only used to antagonize, troll and/or derail a thread such as this one. It's actually something that happens very often around here. Same goes for Nalod and his sarcastic remarks and/or post's about Christmas, Santa, the Easter Bunny, the North Pole, mentioning Melo's name in a sarcastic light and/or mocking type of way etc, etc. Everything and anything opposite of what this thread was actually created for. No one asked for their negativity and/or for them to chime in with guilty conscience types of sarcastic remarks. But, they couldn't hold back. I'll cut it down with some cliff notes for those who can read between the lines. I'll "elaborate".

We'ere spending so much energy and/or time arguing with some of these unsatisfiable, negative, 24/7 types of naysaying critics when instead, we could be enjoying one of the greatest starts to a single season our fan base has ever seen. As some of you can tell, just mentioning the fact that we're spending too much energy and/or time arguing with some of these unsatisfiable negative critics gets their panties in a bunch. These types of sports fans won't be satisfied as a person until we win a championship and/or until ex Knicks "win a championship" in order to show us "just how right" they really were.

It's sad when you can't post about the greatest Knick since Ewing having a potentially MVP type of season without being called out due to "LeBron and Durant" and/or considered a "circle jerk party" when talking up a currently outstanding season in regards to Melo himself leading our Knicks. 20-7 overall. Only 1 1/2 games back of the OKC Thunder for the best record in all of basketball.

These naysaying critics? A grain of salt when looking at the grand scheme of things. We're true Eastern Conference Contenders for the first time dating back to the 1990's. Our deepest team maybe of all-time in regards to overall talent and depth from top to bottom. Our fan base has only seen four Atlantic Division crowns. I've only seen two during the 90's. Even with Ewing, we were not winning the Atlantic. As of right now we're 5/12 games up on Brooklyn and could very well be on the verge of witnessing something in which has only happened at a clip of once every 16.5 years; An Atlantic Division Banner hanging from the rafters. Don't tell that to these negative critics though.

I'm enjoying a certain type of feeling that I haven't had since childhood days in regards to our Knicks. The same feelings I had with Ewing? It's now with Melo and these Knicks. These negative critics can't handle this truth. It upsets them to know that Melo's the greatest all-around Knick since Patrick Ewing. These types of threads get under their skin. They can't stand the fact that heading into these games, that thousands upon thousands of Knick fans (such as myself) can't stop thinking about and/or wondering what Melo's on the verge of doing next. Last night struggled all night (as all the great ones do) before exploding out of no where for 19 fourt quarter points against not only a Wolves opponent but also against the refs.

As a fan base, we welcomed Melo with open arms as well. In numbers too. Remember his first Knicks intro? Why did the heart and soul of our fan base welcome Carmelo Anthony with open eyes? Because our fan base not only knew, but we also had an understanding that we were on the verge of landing the greatest Knick since Patrick Ewing himself. Madison Square Garden and the Knicks faithful have Melo's back with 100% support. Melo's at the free throw linelast night with under two minutes to go, and what do we hear out of the Mecca? We hear chants of MVP. MVP. MVP. Chants of MVP for our greatest Knick since #33 of his prime years. But yet, we can't enjoy his performance in which has been MVP worthy due to the fact that these nay-saying critics 'say so'? They'll bring up LeBron and Durtant as a way of harping all over our top 5 NBA all-world talent.

We see threads such as "Losing is acceptable to the Knicks". If losing is "acceptable" then please explain why we've lost two consecutive (back to back) games only once this season. 88-76 vs the Pacers. 121-100 vs the Pistons. 102-88 @ the Bucks. 112-106 vs the Nuggets. 100-86 vs the Nets. 94-91 vs Minny. All coming off loses. 20-7 overall. It seems as if our Knicks actually respond strong as ever coming off of loses. Don't let the fact's get in the way of these types of topics though. Kidd. Melo. Chandler. Rasheed. Camby and Kurt Thomas have all accepted losing? I'm sure guys such as Pablo, J.R Smith, Novak and Brewer "accept losing" as well?

20-7. One of the greatest starts to a season we've ever seen. Enjoying our greatest Knick talent since Ewing himself in Carmelo Anthony. 12-2 home record. Only 1 1/2 games back of the OKC Thunder for the best record in all of basketball. The deepest Knicks team some of us have ever seen dating back to the early 1990's. On the verge of enjoying a Christmas day matchup against a storied franchise such as the Lakers. It's Los Angeles vs New York. We've returned to the spot light.

They only have one choice. To deal with it.

can you elaborate and provide more detail in regards to line 89 of your post?

gunsnewing wrote:Yea I really enjoyed living in the moment during the Isiah, marbury, tim thomas, jerome james, eddy curry, mo taylor, malik rose, Qrich, penny hardaway, steve, francis, nazr mohammed, channing frye, Dantoni, nate robinson, jamal crawford & jared jeffries years

O.K. So, what's your point?

What does any of that have to do with the likes of Felton, Kidd, Shumpert, Pablo, J.R Smith, Melo, Stoudemire, Tyson Chandler, Novak, Camby, Kurt Thomas, Rasheed, Brewer and/or coach Woodson?

It seems as if when talking about the history of our Knicks, fans only remember those years under I.Thomas. I really do feel bad for those younger Knick fans around 15-20 years of age who were born into those losing times. That's not what I remember when thinking about Knicks basketball. Those players who gunsnewing listed? A grain of salt. I have too many memories of the years of Starks, Oakley, Mason and Ewing all chest pumping eachother. That's New York basketball. Outstanding basketball throughout the entire 90's is what I remember. Our losing ways of the 2000's was only a bridge to where we are now. Back to being considered true Eastern Conference contenders. Real playoff rivalries against the likes of Chicago, Indy and Miami throughout the entire 90's. Went to war against all-time greats such as Jordan/Pippen and the Bulls along with Reggie and his Pacers during the early to mid 90's. Followed by our last rivalry of the 90's againt Tim Hardaway/Mourning and the Miami Heat.

Once again, what does those players you listed above have to do with anything currently Knicks related? Or, are you still trying to harp all over the "past" as if the 90's never happened.

mrKnickShot wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:When the Knicks lost to houston that yr I actually shed tears.Is that too much of a fan for any of you? If it is then tough ****,thats the kind of fan I am.

big deal. I cried when I watched Beaches.

whoops did I just say that?

Cried when you watched Beaches? OOOOOOKKKK

mrKnickShot wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:When the Knicks lost to houston that yr I actually shed tears.Is that too much of a fan for any of you? If it is then tough ****,thats the kind of fan I am.

big deal. I cried when I watched Beaches.

whoops did I just say that?

Cried when you watched Beaches? OOOOOOKKKK

Is that a problem? Tough!

No problem.lol

gunsnewing wrote:I don't appreciate being called a Naysaying critic. Somber has a much better ring to it

This group is still an unknown, they are winning games, but that is it so far.

"Naysayer" is a strong word when the team hasn't done anything significant yet.

cooch2584 wrote:NYK, I go back a lot farther that the 90s. Been a Knicks fan since 1966, so I have seen the Championship yrs and let me tell you and anyone here, there is not a greater feeling that when your team wins a championship. You walk different when your team wins a Chip. Proud and chest out knowing your behind the best in their sport. Right now Im proud of this team NOW and look forward to that CHAMPIONSHIP feeling again in the forseeable future.

Yessir. As a life long Knicks and Jets fan, that's something that I've never seen, which is a championship. But I know my time is coming as a sports fan. I've been one game away from the super bowl three times with my Jets dating back to 1998. Vinny and our Parcell led Jets lost to Denver during the AFC Championship game. Still hurts just thinking about. Then back to back consecutive AFC Championship Game loses against the Colts and Steelers during Sanchez and Ryan's first two years together. The Jets will once again, fly high. But it could take some time.

Our Knicks? I've seen us one game away from an NBA Championship. Up 3 games to 2 against Hakeem Olajuwon's led Rockets of 1994. Ewing and Hakeem put on a show. They went to war down low. Both scoring, defensive game changing plays and rebounding strong off the boards; one of the greatest NBA Finals matchup's you'll ever see in regards to the Center position. Ewing gave Hakeem all he could handle. Hakeem returned the favor. I was a kid back then, and that was the first and last time I've ever cried over a sports game. My older brother, who was upset but didn't like seeing me down, told me that we'll be back next year. I took his word for it. He was right too. We continued to compete for the East throughout the entire 90's. But yea, I knew without question we had no chance against a David Robinson led Spurs team without Ewing back in 1999. That series disaster didn't hurt me nearly as much as 1994. Not only were we without Ewing, but even with Ewing our Knicks franchise was a shell of what it once was during the early/mid 90's. Starks and Oakley were a thing of the past back in 1999. Ewing was a shell of what he once was. I love those younger talents in H20, Sprewell and Camby as well, I went nuts for LJ's 4 point play but also hated the fact we traded Anthony Mason for a past his prime Larry Johnson. I just didn't enjoy that Knicks team as much as our Knicks of the early/mid 90's in which went to war with the Bulls and Indy during those Jordan/Reggie days.

I never once considered those Sprewell/Houston led Knicks teams as serious NBA contenders. That team struggled during the entire regular season. Made it as an 8th seed into the postseason. Barely above .500. No quit. Lots of heart. Not that great. Made it to the finals during a time in which the East was very weak. Only went 27-23. But then the playoffs happened. And we went on a tear.

This is the first actual contending team I've seen/enjoyed dating back to our Knicks of the early/mid 1990's. This current Knicks team? Has more potential when compared to the Jets under Sanchez and Ryan's first two years, more potential when compared to our Knicks of 1999 and just as much Championship potential as prime Ewing led Knick teams. 2 Factors when thinking back. A.) The greatest of all-time in MJ23 can no longer haunt us inside of MSG while murdering Starks and our entire defense for 50 with the flu. B.) The greatest Center of (I believe) All-Time in Hakeem is a thing of the past. There is no Center in today's NBA that could do what Ewing and Hakeem did during those 94 Finals. The potential to win a Championship here in 2012-2013 is stronger than it's ever been dating back to the early to mid 90's.

I've enjoyed the Jets dating back to 1994 to be exact. My older brother got into football later on in life, and 1994 was the year. The Knicks on the other hand? My first true sports love. Can't remember the "exact year" that I started loving the game of basketball. Born a Knicks fan. My older brother had me watching Knick games with him in our Queens basement since before I could talk let alone remember. Always made sure I had a Starks or Ewing jersey for the up coming school years. My older bro just installed in me, a natural love for our Knicks of New York CIty. Still remember my Ewing/Stakrs/Oakley folder back in 1995. With the New York skyline behind it. Memories.