NYKMentality wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

Nalod wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:No matter how you slice it, the Nets are an Atlantic division rival of the New York Knicks.

Enjoy rooting and/or supporting our division rivals... lol.

A Knicks fan supporting the Nets is the same as a Jets fan supporting the Bills. It doesn't happen. AFC East (division) rivals.

Bills play 500 miles away in another city.

Doesn't matter, still a New York franchise. The Jets and Bills may play in different cities but then again, the Knicks and Nets now play in different Boroughs. Still DIVISION RIVALS.

Also, the Mets vs Yankees? AL East vs NL East. Giants vs Jets? AFC East vs NFC East.

Since when is it o.k (in sports) to SUPPORT A DIVISION RIVAL?!?

Laughable.

Have of habit of questioning people's loyalty?

Not questioning anyone's loyality. But, if you're supporting a division rival? Well, then, your loyality deserves to be questioned.

The Nets are a division rival, are they not? I know Melo and the rest of our Knicks consider them to be division rivals. By supporting the Nets, you're supporting a division rival... Are you not?

For a Knicks fan to support the Nets is just as bad as a Knicks fan supporting the Boston Celtics and/or Toronto Raptors ala Atlantic Division Rivals.

NYKMentality wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

Nalod wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:No matter how you slice it, the Nets are an Atlantic division rival of the New York Knicks.

Enjoy rooting and/or supporting our division rivals... lol.

A Knicks fan supporting the Nets is the same as a Jets fan supporting the Bills. It doesn't happen. AFC East (division) rivals.

Bills play 500 miles away in another city.

Doesn't matter, still a New York franchise. The Jets and Bills may play in different cities but then again, the Knicks and Nets now play in different Boroughs. Still DIVISION RIVALS.

Also, the Mets vs Yankees? AL East vs NL East. Giants vs Jets? AFC East vs NFC East.

Since when is it o.k (in sports) to SUPPORT A DIVISION RIVAL?!?

Laughable.

Have of habit of questioning people's loyalty?

Not questioning anyone's loyality. But, if you're supporting a division rival? Well, then, your loyality deserves to be questioned.

The Nets are a division rival, are they not? I know Melo and the rest of our Knicks consider them to be division rivals. By supporting the Nets, you're supporting a division rival... Are you not?

For a Knicks fan to support the Nets is just as bad as a Knicks fan supporting the Boston Celtics and/or Toronto Raptors ala Atlantic Division Rivals.

Being a Fan of a division rival and supporting one because it happens to be in your state and, its presence is an aid to YOUR STATE, then your showing the GREATER loyalty to your state. The benefits to New York are greater than your belief in my or others lack of loyalty.
Supporting a team, like I said and being a fan are too different thing. I rock Knicks gear, consider myself and Uber-Knick fan but, I appreciate what the Nets will do for my state. Anyone who doesn't understand this needs to get hooked on phonics because, it couldn't be clearer.

BRIGGS wrote:Boy did the Nets make a strategic mistake sitting Blatche for the entire 2nd Q. We could not check him--if he played 44 minutes he wouldve had 34-36 and they might just have won. Hes a tough check for the Knicks.

For Tyson our Defensive player of the year Blatche and Lopez sure give him fits!

fishmike wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:You know what....I've been reevaluating my feeling on the Nets. Took me a while but, now I see the irony of my supporting all New York teams in the past (jets, giants, yanks & mets) but, I chose to hate on the Nets. They aren't Jersey's team anymore but, another New York team. So, for now on, I will support the Nets but, the Knicks are my team. There is a difference between supporting a team and being a fan of it.

Having another NBA team will only help bring more revenue into the state which, is a good thing so, big ups to BK.

Im this way with the Jets (Giants fans first). I grew up a big blue fan but I always liked watching those Jets teams of the 80s. Ken Obrien, Al Toon, Gastineau, Freeman McNeel. I watch about half the games and hope they do well, but just cant muster and emotional attachment. Im Yanks/Gints/Knicks and thats pretty much it.

Nice to see the Nets get beat. That team presents some problems for us

I used to be like that with the Jets too but they lost my respect with the shenanigans they pulled last season. Now I'm like that with the Mets. The Yankees are so boring and predictable now. My hate for the NYets and Devils is just too deeply rooted and they are division rivals.

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Boy did the Nets make a strategic mistake sitting Blatche for the entire 2nd Q. We could not check him--if he played 44 minutes he wouldve had 34-36 and they might just have won. Hes a tough check for the Knicks.

yup, he was pretty much doing whatever he wanted out there. There is a good reason why Nets fans have been calling for Avery's head. I think he'd be best as a defensive coach. That or he needs to hire an offensive coordinator.

Yea never bought into the hype with Avery Johnson. JVG was unusually critical of a fellow member of the coaching fraternity. He seemed to be really harping on how badly designed the Net's offense was and how badly misused Dwill is in Avery's system. I think he may be onto something. Dwill was terrible under Sloan.

So is JVG campaigning for a job or just stating the obvious?

Also besides benching Blatche in the 2nd he played Stackhouse who has been slumping in the 4th while Marshon Brooks who was hot sat

cooch2584 wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:You know what....I've been reevaluating my feeling on the Nets. Took me a while but, now I see the irony of my supporting all New York teams in the past (jets, giants, yanks & mets) but, I chose to hate on the Nets. They aren't Jersey's team anymore but, another New York team. So, for now on, I will support the Nets but, the Knicks are my team. There is a difference between supporting a team and being a fan of it.

Having another NBA team will only help bring more revenue into the state which, is a good thing so, big ups to BK.

Are they really?? Just because a Russian Bruce Wayne moved them? If the guy did it with class MAYBE I can accept them. But the way they moved was classless. Their marketing screams "we are trying to hard". Marketing does NOT get people to invest in you emotionally. Perform. Build a legacy don't artificially produce it. What are these Brooklyn fans cheering for? The name on the front of the jersey? Guess what? Brooklyn is marketing itself as NY's team. A replacement for the Knicks. Brooklyn pride my ass. They are not the Brooklyn Nets. The are the wannabe New York Knicks.

Classless isnt the right word Joe. If anyone does some deep down research, the way they built that arena was illegal in every way,shape and form. They actually threw people outta their homes and had Brooklyn claim eminnant domain over the homes that people had in brooklyn. The russian paid under the table to the pols for the land. The pols wanted a team in brooklyn so bad ,thinking that they would generate money for brooklyn that they forgot how they affected peoples lives. They uprooted a whole neighborhood. MAYBE that is the reason why there are more Knicks fans at a nyets game than nyets fans. A poster on another thread,I forgot who,was at the game last nite and said there went 80% Knicks fans there,IN THE nyets ARENA. NO ONE was relocated,thrown outta their home etc... when THE WORLDS MOST FAMOUS ARENA,THE EFFING MECCA OF BASKETBALL WAS BUILT.

I remember when all that went down. Disgraceful and I wish years of bad karma on them

DurzoBlint wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:You know what....I've been reevaluating my feeling on the Nets. Took me a while but, now I see the irony of my supporting all New York teams in the past (jets, giants, yanks & mets) but, I chose to hate on the Nets. They aren't Jersey's team anymore but, another New York team. So, for now on, I will support the Nets but, the Knicks are my team. There is a difference between supporting a team and being a fan of it.

Having another NBA team will only help bring more revenue into the state which, is a good thing so, big ups to BK.

Are they really?? Just because a Russian Bruce Wayne moved them? If the guy did it with class MAYBE I can accept them. But the way they moved was classless. Their marketing screams "we are trying to hard". Marketing does NOT get people to invest in you emotionally. Perform. Build a legacy don't artificially produce it. What are these Brooklyn fans cheering for? The name on the front of the jersey? Guess what? Brooklyn is marketing itself as NY's team. A replacement for the Knicks. Brooklyn pride my ass. They are not the Brooklyn Nets. The are the wannabe New York Knicks.

by that logic, Dolan should have killed the Knicks fanbase. We don't support a team because of who the owner is. Sure there was some tastelessness from that side, but it doesn't discount the benefit such a team brings to the state. New York will benefit from the increased revenue and to be honest, Jersey didn't deserve a team. If you couldn't support the Jason Kidd led Nets they you shouldn't have a team.

It was hard for Jersey to support the Nyets. A lot of them are Knicks and Sixers fans. The ones that became Nyets fans during the Kidd era jumped off the knicks/sixers bandwagon and lost my respect and fueled my hatred for the franchise

gunsnewing wrote:

Nalod wrote:Im curious why the garden is "the mecca"? Knicks lifetime record is under .500

College ball has been irrelevant in NYC since the 50's with the exception of St Johns in the 80's.

Knicks have not won in 40 years.

Its the most famous arena because MSG in some form has existed for over 100 years and NYC is the biggest in the country!

Nets put "Brooklyn" on their jersey's. They are not proclaiming to be NY's team. their ticket sales are up 500% and we are 1-1 for the season with them.

They don't have a 60 year history and moved to rebrand and build a new identity. Knicks have theirs, Nets are finding theirs.

They are a financial success thus far.

They don't know how to finish games yet. If they did they'd be 2-0.

Would that have changed anything regarding their marketing plan, ticket sales, or tv revenue today?

Does this make me a Net fan or just someone who recognizes what a financial gain it is to the russian and for NYC?

The Rivalry is good thing and Im enjoying the hell out of it.

I agree with Durzo, I can support the Nets. Im about NY. if the Knicks don't win and the Nets go on I'd rather a team win from NY than miami, or boston, or philly, or LA, etc.........

Its the Mecca because guys like Kobe, Jordan, Lebron like to drop 61 and 55 there

+1, and would just like to point out they head to The Mecca specifically to drop 61 and 55

joec32033 wrote:

playa2 wrote:

joec32033 wrote:Dear Brooklyn,

They are still the nets.

With love,
New York.

Joeeeeeeeeeeeee,

Sup playa?

By the way joe, that was the worse ffb league i got into (more so cause i went 2-11) didn't like picking defensive players..I think espn ffb is much better (10-3)..

But on the topic of discussion, it's going to take a few years before NYK Knick fans warm up to the nets..

Most yankee fans were rooting for the mets in 86, although i was very young (12), i don't recall yankee fans upset or not rooting for the mets..It was hard not to like Carter, stawberry, Gooden and some of the other guys

The NETS don't even have a fan friendly player like that in which they root for like a Sheed, starks, spree, camby ect...Even Evans (who's easy to like because his efforts) doesn't get that kinda love, humpries is still getting heckle by some fans..

You could best believe if the knicks win it this year or even make it to the finals, the Nets will see there small fan base shrink.. Further more, you don't own the city until you go on the road and see fans wearing NETS gear..Right now the nets are a local team in a big city with just half a BORO behind them..They had a better chance taking over the city when Isaih was in town and the knicks were the joke of the league. Instead they come to town when the original home team is back on top and the darlings of the east..they say in life TIMING IS EVERYTHING...