ChuckBuck wrote:Only thing Woody borrowed from MDA is the High PnR with Felton and Chandler. We don't run SSOL, we use the clock.

The rest: Double screens, spread with shooter camping in the corner(every team runs this), Posting with Melo and Sheed, and ISOs for Melo, Ray, and JR are all Woodson's playbook.

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gunsnewing wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Only thing Woody borrowed from MDA is the High PnR with Felton and Chandler. We don't run SSOL, we use the clock.

The rest: Double screens, spread with shooter camping in the corner(every team runs this), Posting with Melo and Sheed, and ISOs for Melo, Ray, and JR are all Woodson's playbook.

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regardless of using the clock, you cannot deny Pringles' influence on the offense. It certainly reminds me more of 's offense than it does Woody's Atlanta offense

cooch2584 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Only thing Woody borrowed from MDA is the High PnR with Felton and Chandler. We don't run SSOL, we use the clock.

The rest: Double screens, spread with shooter camping in the corner(every team runs this), Posting with Melo and Sheed, and ISOs for Melo, Ray, and JR are all Woodson's playbook.

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regardless of using the clock, you cannot deny Pringles' influence on the offense. It certainly reminds me more of 's offense than it does Woody's Atlanta offense

NOPE

I guess y'all are right... it is more sophisticated than the chuck and duck

gunsnewing wrote:Knicks don't have an Al Horford at the moment. The personnel is dictating the style of play. Patience and hit the open man. When Amare returns the offense will be more balanced

Things that make you go HUMMMM,HIT THE OPEN MAN I wonder who taught that to Woody? Maybe because he played for Red Holtzman and learned that,thats why hes using it?? NAAA Im dreaming here/green font

RonRon wrote:Many teams have adopted the philosophies of SSOL, that is why there are so many stretch 4's being used, smaller lineups, and many teams use 2 PG's with penetration/facilitating/ball handling/3pt shooting. It is just much more efficient, finding the right angles, getting players in rhythm *especially role players*.
But like ANYTHING in life, YOU CANNOT RUN it to death.

I think Dantoni had many of flaws with his coaching especially in NY but he has some great philosophy's that has changed the NBA already and will continue to change it from old school basketball. In all fairness, he barely had a roster throughout his tenure here. His best roster was pre Melo, which was for half a season, with a full training camp, and players that were familiar, unselfish, and fit the system.

Wouldnt it be funny if mda studied films of Reds offense and tweeked it to bring it up to date??

Nellie ball is an unconventional offensive strategy in basketball developed by NBA head coach Don Nelson. It is a fast-paced run-and-gun offense relying on smaller, more athletic players who can create mismatches by outrunning their opponents. A true center is usually not needed to run this type of offense. A large volume of three-point attempts is generally a staple of Nellie Ball as well.[1] This offense is most effective against teams that do not have the athleticism or shooting ability to keep up with the fast pace.

Sorry, D'Antoni is not some innovative offensive mastermind...he blatantly stole from others as well.

gunsnewing wrote:He didn't have a complete roster but even if he had more talent it would not work unless Nash, old Amare, Joe Johnson, Marion and Bell were here. He needs specific talent and it is next to impossible to build a team that way that will contend. Ask the Lakers. A team featuring Gallo is not on the same level as those PHX teams

EVERY coach needs good players. The concepts MDA put in place work even when you don't have a lot of talent or size. He proved that when he went to the WCF's with no one over 6-9 and only Diaw as his center!!! He proved that when the Knicks had Felton the 1st time and last year when the team was winning during Linsanity. Teams have been using his stuff and he gets credit for the concepts because when he started doing this no one was really doing anything close to it at the time. It's hard to come up with something 100% new in BB, but MDA managed to blend some basic concepts into a unique style that changed the League.

nixluva wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:He didn't have a complete roster but even if he had more talent it would not work unless Nash, old Amare, Joe Johnson, Marion and Bell were here. He needs specific talent and it is next to impossible to build a team that way that will contend. Ask the Lakers. A team featuring Gallo is not on the same level as those PHX teams

EVERY coach needs good players. The concepts MDA put in place work even when you don't have a lot of talent or size. He proved that when he went to the WCF's with no one over 6-9 and only Diaw as his center!!! He proved that when the Knicks had Felton the 1st time and last year when the team was winning during Linsanity. Teams have been using his stuff and he gets credit for the concepts because when he started doing this no one was really doing anything close to it at the time. It's hard to come up with something 100% new in BB, but MDA managed to blend some basic concepts into a unique style that changed the League.

Nope,too much credit to mda and there goes mentioning linsanity AGAIN. UNREAL

cooch2584 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:He didn't have a complete roster but even if he had more talent it would not work unless Nash, old Amare, Joe Johnson, Marion and Bell were here. He needs specific talent and it is next to impossible to build a team that way that will contend. Ask the Lakers. A team featuring Gallo is not on the same level as those PHX teams

EVERY coach needs good players. The concepts MDA put in place work even when you don't have a lot of talent or size. He proved that when he went to the WCF's with no one over 6-9 and only Diaw as his center!!! He proved that when the Knicks had Felton the 1st time and last year when the team was winning during Linsanity. Teams have been using his stuff and he gets credit for the concepts because when he started doing this no one was really doing anything close to it at the time. It's hard to come up with something 100% new in BB, but MDA managed to blend some basic concepts into a unique style that changed the League.

Nope,too much credit to mda and there goes mentioning linsanity AGAIN. UNREAL

OK you can't be reasoned with, but that's fine. You can close your eyes and ignore what you're seeing and that's fine, but the facts will always be there for those who aren't biased against MDA. If Woody wins a title he's the only one who will get the credit. This isn't about taking anything away from him. It's about truth tho. Woody said himself that he was going to keep some of MDA's offense and most honest observers can see that he has.