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CrushAlot
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11/19/2012  10:05 PM
fishmike wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:I was wrong about Mike D'Antoni. But at the same time, if D'Antoni had a roster of Felton, Kidd and Pablo at the PG position ala veteran PG's along with the likes of veterans such as Camby, Kurt Thomas and Rasheed Wallace to go along with a full offseason with the likes of J.R Smith... I believe we could have been a very good teame. But, with all that said, due to our success throughout the 90's; D'Antoni wasn't the right fit for our franchise and/or fan base. We all missed those chants of defense rocking the Garden during the 90's. Defense has returned to the Mecca, and Mike Woodson is perfect fit for this fan base and our city. A defensive minded head coach.
dude... we were a good team. 3rd or 4th youngest in the league, 4th seed, 21-9 over a 30 game stretch, wins over Spurs, OKC, Chi, Dallas, Denver. Still had picks + max cap space that offseason and only Wilson as FA. I was pretty excited about that team and until now its been a sh!tshow since that MElo trade.

That team got to 7 games over .500 and then lost 7/8. I don't remember them being the world beaters you describe.

I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Nalod
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11/19/2012  11:02 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:I was wrong about Mike D'Antoni. But at the same time, if D'Antoni had a roster of Felton, Kidd and Pablo at the PG position ala veteran PG's along with the likes of veterans such as Camby, Kurt Thomas and Rasheed Wallace to go along with a full offseason with the likes of J.R Smith... I believe we could have been a very good teame. But, with all that said, due to our success throughout the 90's; D'Antoni wasn't the right fit for our franchise and/or fan base. We all missed those chants of defense rocking the Garden during the 90's. Defense has returned to the Mecca, and Mike Woodson is perfect fit for this fan base and our city. A defensive minded head coach.
dude... we were a good team. 3rd or 4th youngest in the league, 4th seed, 21-9 over a 30 game stretch, wins over Spurs, OKC, Chi, Dallas, Denver. Still had picks + max cap space that offseason and only Wilson as FA. I was pretty excited about that team and until now its been a sh!tshow since that MElo trade.

That team got to 7 games over .500 and then lost 7/8. I don't remember them being the world beaters you describe.

You suffer from "LinSomnia"!

mrKnickShot
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11/20/2012  12:46 AM
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:I was wrong about Mike D'Antoni. But at the same time, if D'Antoni had a roster of Felton, Kidd and Pablo at the PG position ala veteran PG's along with the likes of veterans such as Camby, Kurt Thomas and Rasheed Wallace to go along with a full offseason with the likes of J.R Smith... I believe we could have been a very good teame. But, with all that said, due to our success throughout the 90's; D'Antoni wasn't the right fit for our franchise and/or fan base. We all missed those chants of defense rocking the Garden during the 90's. Defense has returned to the Mecca, and Mike Woodson is perfect fit for this fan base and our city. A defensive minded head coach.
dude... we were a good team. 3rd or 4th youngest in the league, 4th seed, 21-9 over a 30 game stretch, wins over Spurs, OKC, Chi, Dallas, Denver. Still had picks + max cap space that offseason and only Wilson as FA. I was pretty excited about that team and until now its been a sh!tshow since that MElo trade.

That team got to 7 games over .500 and then lost 7/8. I don't remember them being the world beaters you describe.

You suffer from "LinSomnia"!

Haha - thats funny!

so lintuitive!

jrodmc
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11/20/2012  8:29 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:I was wrong about Mike D'Antoni. But at the same time, if D'Antoni had a roster of Felton, Kidd and Pablo at the PG position ala veteran PG's along with the likes of veterans such as Camby, Kurt Thomas and Rasheed Wallace to go along with a full offseason with the likes of J.R Smith... I believe we could have been a very good teame. But, with all that said, due to our success throughout the 90's; D'Antoni wasn't the right fit for our franchise and/or fan base. We all missed those chants of defense rocking the Garden during the 90's. Defense has returned to the Mecca, and Mike Woodson is perfect fit for this fan base and our city. A defensive minded head coach.
dude... we were a good team. 3rd or 4th youngest in the league, 4th seed, 21-9 over a 30 game stretch, wins over Spurs, OKC, Chi, Dallas, Denver. Still had picks + max cap space that offseason and only Wilson as FA. I was pretty excited about that team and until now its been a sh!tshow since that MElo trade.

That team got to 7 games over .500 and then lost 7/8. I don't remember them being the world beaters you describe.

You suffer from "LinSomnia"!

Haha - thats funny!

so lintuitive!

Fish is in serious need of a lintervention.

A sh!tshow? You prefer not making the playoffs? Your pretty good team was producing 29 win seasons, as I recall.

Has Nalod been sneaking you into the Barkclays to sniff seats during off-game days?

Nalod
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11/20/2012  8:34 AM
jrodmc wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
fishmike wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:I was wrong about Mike D'Antoni. But at the same time, if D'Antoni had a roster of Felton, Kidd and Pablo at the PG position ala veteran PG's along with the likes of veterans such as Camby, Kurt Thomas and Rasheed Wallace to go along with a full offseason with the likes of J.R Smith... I believe we could have been a very good teame. But, with all that said, due to our success throughout the 90's; D'Antoni wasn't the right fit for our franchise and/or fan base. We all missed those chants of defense rocking the Garden during the 90's. Defense has returned to the Mecca, and Mike Woodson is perfect fit for this fan base and our city. A defensive minded head coach.
dude... we were a good team. 3rd or 4th youngest in the league, 4th seed, 21-9 over a 30 game stretch, wins over Spurs, OKC, Chi, Dallas, Denver. Still had picks + max cap space that offseason and only Wilson as FA. I was pretty excited about that team and until now its been a sh!tshow since that MElo trade.

That team got to 7 games over .500 and then lost 7/8. I don't remember them being the world beaters you describe.

You suffer from "LinSomnia"!

Haha - thats funny!

so lintuitive!

Fish is in serious need of a lintervention.

A sh!tshow? You prefer not making the playoffs? Your pretty good team was producing 29 win seasons, as I recall.

Has Nalod been sneaking you into the Barkclays to sniff seats during off-game days?

Same lines repeated over and over.

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11/20/2012  9:14 AM
Wrong about Isiah. He was my boy-hood idol and I really wanted it to work. Great eye for talent but could't understand that it takes more than talent to build a cohesive unit to win. You need glue-guys and I aint talking about Jeffries

Wrong about Eddy Curry. Thought we gave up too much to get him, but I thought with his size and talent, he was ready to take the next step and be a force in the league. Unfortunately, you cant judge a mans heart.

Right about Larry Brown. Didnt want to hire him at all. History told us that he would feud with the front office and demand trades on a nightly basis. Never liked his propensity to take shots at player through the press either.

Wrong about Marbs. I played pg my whole life so I have an affinity for point guards. Eventhough we won, I found it hard to stomach Ward most of the time. Was doing cartwheels when Marb came home. Was so happy to have a legit pg back on the Knicks, the best since Hot Rod and Mark Jax. Gave Marbs the benefit of the doubt despite the rumors of his quirky attitude in NJ. Everything was fine and we were playing well until Marb talked Isiah into trading Van Horn. It was all downhill from there.

Right about the Balkman draft. I'm sure everyone was upset about the Balkman draft but most, as I recall wanted Marcus Williams. I was screaming for Rando....

Right about the Melo trade

Right/Wrong on MDA being an offensive genius. I was mixed on MDA. I bought into the 'offensive genius' label that was thrown around by some in the press. I was open minded on his arrival but hoped he would hire a defensive coordinator so to speak. He looked so much better from afar out in Arizona, when I only watched the Suns occasionally, than he did here, under the magnifying glass on my team. Watching him coach everyday allowed me to see the warts he has. The non-adjustments during games. The lack of game planning. The inability for this 'offensive genius' to adapt to the roster and make it work. The more I watched his teams, the more I grew to dislike the run-and gun chuck 3's and play no D. MDA was a system guy who was a good quote and can have success with the right group of guys. I remember a legendary coach said something to the effects of "I can beat yours with mine and beat mine with yours." That is not the type of coach MDA is.....

Right about JR....Loved the signing from jump....

Right about Woodson....I now most wanted Phil Jackson and I'm sure we would be winning with him sitting on the throne on the sidelines. But Woodson had made a unique connection with the guys during the tail end of the season and guys believed in him. I really wasnted to give Woodson another shot ans so far so good...

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12/7/2012  3:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/7/2012  3:16 PM
Ok, I'm ready to man up.

- Felton is (mostly) playing way better than I expected him to. Still wish he'd recognize when he's cold and pass more in those instances. But he's in good shape, got great control of the ball, low T/O's and his shooting way better than I remember (with some exceptional nights).
- Sheed is a solid contributor! I really expected nothing out of him coming out of two years retirement. I've never seen that result in anything worthwhile before. I expected he'd be a (partially) warm body on the bench.
- Kidd has some juice left in he tank after all. He's made great contributions steadying the offense, being a great counterbalance to Ray, and shooting steady. How many teams have such great ball control and passing ability between their two starting guards? It really keeps the team balanced and versatile.
- segues into... We're not hurting at the SG spot like I expected with Shrump out. I didn't expect too much out of Brewer, and I'm still not as in love with him as some of y'all, but we're doing fine, and Shrump can come back when he's ready.
- We're missing Amare less than I thought. But I tell u what, if we really can have one of him or Melo on he floor at all times when he comes back, it's gonna be scary.
- I'm missing Lin less than I thought. I'm not ready to admit that it was smart to let him go for nothing (still think he was a good asset, and I'll wait till next year, as he's still young). But Ray did a great job helping us past the Linsanity hangover.
- Mike is the man. Honestly, I thought last Year's 18-6 was flukish, as I was not that impressed with what he did with what I thought were talented young rosters in Atlanta. But either he's grown as a coach, or this is a better mix of players for him. Keep it up, Mike!

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12/7/2012  3:22 PM
I was wrong when I said that there was NO way Melo would miss that Heat game.
I was right in thinking this is the BEST fansite in the world
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
Panos
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12/7/2012  3:24 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:I was wrong when I said that there was NO way Melo would miss that Heat game.
I was right in thinking this is the BEST fansite in the world

;)

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12/8/2012  10:54 AM
I was wrong to think I could find anything I was ever wrong about.
https:// It's not so hard.
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12/8/2012  11:23 AM
Many years ago I made a horrible trade thread proposing a straight up deal of Marcus Camby for Antonio McDyess.
This was about a month or two before the actual trade happened...
I thought McDyess would bounce back from injuries and was tired of having Camby on the Injured Reserve.
As soon as McDyess blew his knee out I felt terrible... and have rarely started any trade threads since.

That is my confessional... otherwise I have been right about everything else!! lol

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12/8/2012  12:26 PM
nyvector16 wrote:Many years ago I made a horrible trade thread proposing a straight up deal of Marcus Camby for Antonio McDyess.
This was about a month or two before the actual trade happened...
I thought McDyess would bounce back from injuries and was tired of having Camby on the Injured Reserve.
As soon as McDyess blew his knee out I felt terrible... and have rarely started any trade threads since.

That is my confessional... otherwise I have been right about everything else!! lol

So you are the culprit not Layden!

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12/8/2012  1:13 PM
I was wrong about Channing Frye! Thought he was going to beast after that first year-
I was wrong about the Mayor- though he was going to be more and more assertive- he was so well rounded-

Right about Zach Randolph and Jamal Crossoverford- I knew they were good talents in a bad enviroment - not superstars but not "losers"
BTW - Thelonius Monk- you're thinking of Bitty- she is pretty - and was a big Zach fan
One thing I was right about- meeting the UK dudes (and dudette) in person is fun- Panos, Silver, Hardcore, Eny, BlueSeats, Marv, Djsu, VDesei, fishmike- cool dudes in person.
If you are still following the team and reading sites like this, there is nothing, short of your own demise, that is going to throw you off this train.
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12/8/2012  1:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/8/2012  1:38 PM
93BUICK wrote:I was wrong about Channing Frye! Thought he was going to beast after that first year-
I was wrong about the Mayor- though he was going to be more and more assertive- he was so well rounded-

Right about Zach Randolph and Jamal Crossoverford- I knew they were good talents in a bad enviroment - not superstars but not "losers"
BTW - Thelonius Monk- you're thinking of Bitty- she is pretty - and was a big Zach fan
One thing I was right about- meeting the UK dudes (and dudette) in person is fun- Panos, Silver, Hardcore, Eny, BlueSeats, Marv, Djsu, VDesei, fishmike- cool dudes in person.

Great meeting you too, bub! When is our dart rematch?
I still remember people on the board were against trading Frye for KG in trade scenarios. I hope you were not one of those!

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12/8/2012  2:01 PM
93BUICK wrote:I was wrong about Channing Frye! Thought he was going to beast after that first year-
I was wrong about the Mayor- though he was going to be more and more assertive- he was so well rounded-

Right about Zach Randolph and Jamal Crossoverford- I knew they were good talents in a bad enviroment - not superstars but not "losers"
BTW - Thelonius Monk- you're thinking of Bitty- she is pretty - and was a big Zach fan
One thing I was right about- meeting the UK dudes (and dudette) in person is fun- Panos, Silver, Hardcore, Eny, BlueSeats, Marv, Djsu, VDesei, fishmike- cool dudes in person.

Channing might have been but he lost several years to that knee injury. I doubt he would have been a hall of famer or anything but maybe a consistent all-star.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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12/8/2012  2:44 PM
No way. If Channing Frye ever had a chance to become an allstar than so does Steve Novak
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12/8/2012  2:44 PM
I was right about most things, wrong about some, always knew Melo is a championship player and he can get us to the Finals, so that's really the most important thing to be right about
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12/8/2012  2:53 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:I was right about most things, wrong about some, always knew Melo is a championship player and he can get us to the Finals, so that's really the most important thing to be right about


Did I miss something?

Did we make it to the finals?

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12/8/2012  4:16 PM
gunsnewing wrote:No way. If Channing Frye ever had a chance to become an allstar than so does Steve Novak

His rookie year his per36 numbers were 18ppg, 8.4rpg, and 1bpg while shooting 47% from the field and 82% from the line. He definitely had a chance to become an allstar caliber player before the knee injuries.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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12/8/2012  4:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/8/2012  4:21 PM
No way was Frye ever averaging 18 & 8. The guy was one of the softest 6-11 big to ever play the game. If you go per 36mins than Novak can average 30ppg. Right there with Michael Jordan
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