StraightShot wrote:James Dolan that is. Some guys just can't leave the past behind. Well, guess what? Big Jim was right in all his decisions during the off-season. He has learned from experience. Accept the good news. Leave the hate behind and feel the love.

He is a mighty bear of a man who makes excellent decisions based on sound reasoning.

VCoug wrote:

Nalod wrote:

VCoug wrote:

holfresh wrote:You guys are ungrateful...You think owners should just spend money to make you happy...It doesn't always happen..I am very happy to have an owner who spends his money no matter the outcome..He falls on his face many times and comes back spending..You think it's a given..You shouldn't...R.A. Dickey just won the Cy Young Award, the Mets are thinking of trading him...They don't want to pay him...Dolan spoiled you and now you expect it...

WHOO!!! 6-0!!! This totally makes up for the last 12-14 years of incompetence! These six games totally make up for trading Ewing for Luc Longley, Glen Rice, and Travis Knight; throwing a hissyfit and trading Camby and Nene for a broken down Antonio McDyess and then trading Sprewell for KVH; and then trading KVH for Tim Thomas; Stephon Marbury; Jamal Crawford; Eddy Curry; Jerome James; Jared Jeffries; "Get in the truck"; Isiah Thomas; Anucha Browne Sanders; "A white man calling a black woman 'bitch,' that is wrong with me. I'm not accepting that. That's a problem for me." But when asked if it was wrong for a black man to call black women bitches, Thomas said "not as much" and "I'm sorry to say, I do make a distinction"; Don Chaney; Don Chaney's firing; Tracy McGrady; Steve Francis; Renaldo Balkman; Corey Brewer; and an overall record over the last 11 years of 357-529 for a winning percentage of 40% and including 3 seasons with less than 30 wins. And, of course, we're definitely guaranteed to continue playing like this over the course of the whole season and there's literally no chance we regress at any point.

Yeah, we should all be on our ****ing knees thanking God that Dolan is our owner because of how ****ing spoiled we all are.

Ha, just saw my quote in your signature!

Timely for this thread.

We praised Jimmy for bring on Walsh who tried to change the culture. We will praise him in due time.

6 games and we have to hope we don't break down into injury. Any team can fall but we are older than most and vulnerable.

I know other teams like Portland and the Clippers have had clown like ownership for sum time also but they are not our concern. Lakes are clown like but there mantle if full of bling.

Jimmy means well. But is paranoid, petty and the results have not been good.

A championship would go a long way to healing!

Exactly. I'm extremely happy with how we've started the season but there's no guarantee it will last, 6 games doesn't prove that all the right decisions were made this offseason, and it doesn't erase the incompetence we've put up with over the years. We've had stretches like this before: last season we had both Linsanity and the 18-6 run to end the season; the year before we had a 14-1 run in Nov/Dec but were 2 games over .500 when we traded for Melo and we ended the season 2 games over .500; the year before that we went 5-1 over the 6 games in December; we started 6-3 the season earlier before we traded ZBo and Crawford and there were Knicks fans who were pissed for several years because they thought http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281029018]this team was going to be a title contender. All I'm trying to say is I'm not convinced after 6 games that this will be sustained and I'm not about to forgive Dolan and throwing laurels at him after what he's done to my favorite team over the last decade.

So how do we classify this? What label do we file this under?

All I know is it don't matter who is right or wrong, but the games that count.

Dolan has guys in the locker room controling the players media output. GM barley speaks and the owner hides behind the curtain and lets the bad witch do all the dirty work.

Knicks are impressive after 6 games.

Dolan is an aszhole.

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

StraightShot wrote:James Dolan that is. Some guys just can't leave the past behind. Well, guess what? Big Jim was right in all his decisions during the off-season. He has learned from experience. Accept the good news. Leave the hate behind and feel the love.

Great season thus far... 6 games. Enjoy the run but we have a ways to go, don't we. I mean Linsanity was 20 something games and people criticize the contract Lin got, so we can't really go too overboard over 6 games.

I am happy about our start for sure. But we have to integrate Stat and Shump, both coming back from injury. On paper it sounds great, but we already know about Stat and Melo having problems playing together. I'm not saying that to put a damper on things, but as the season progresses we will have a better idea of where we are at. So far, we are doing great for sure.

You have no proof of that...I counter to say that Amare has trouble with a PG who can't get him the ball...And let's be honest, I think Amare has been hurt for the last 1.5 years...

Have there been a many games where Stat and Melo played well together? I do see your point about the pg though but the issue is bigger than that and perhaps both issues should be addressed. Stat needs to get the ball in a good spot, preferably in motion. But that was not the only problem (albeit it was a big problem). The injuries have been an ongoing concern but I do think there is a problem with spacing between Stat and Chandler as well as problems when Stat is out there with Melo. Proof? Well, I guess our eyes are proof enough and if you look at the stats (I'm sure someone can pull those up), they more than likely show what many have been saying. Though we will see, that is the cool part. I don't mind being disproved here.

Kidd might be able to really really help things out there. Felton worked out very well with Stat, but I think an equally big problem is between the before mentioned guys being able to play together.
As far as Prigs goes, I am really hoping for more from the guy. Big adjustment for him though being new in the NBA and 35 or so.

My point is this, you just can't make definitive proclamations without putting a pick and roll PG next to Amare and having him healthy...Without those two things, any conversation about Melo, Chandler and Amare is pointless...My gues is this, If Melo plays unselfish basketball where he trust his mates like he did last night, out front line will be a beast...But it's only a guess because STAT has not been healthy nor has he had anyone like Felton to play with in two years...

Also, stop praising Dolan. Please. For the love of God. It really infuriates me when I hear people praise a man who was the main reason the franchise was garbage for 10+ years.

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

StraightShot wrote:James Dolan that is. Some guys just can't leave the past behind. Well, guess what? Big Jim was right in all his decisions during the off-season. He has learned from experience. Accept the good news. Leave the hate behind and feel the love.

Great season thus far... 6 games. Enjoy the run but we have a ways to go, don't we. I mean Linsanity was 20 something games and people criticize the contract Lin got, so we can't really go too overboard over 6 games.

I am happy about our start for sure. But we have to integrate Stat and Shump, both coming back from injury. On paper it sounds great, but we already know about Stat and Melo having problems playing together. I'm not saying that to put a damper on things, but as the season progresses we will have a better idea of where we are at. So far, we are doing great for sure.

You have no proof of that...I counter to say that Amare has trouble with a PG who can't get him the ball...And let's be honest, I think Amare has been hurt for the last 1.5 years...

Have there been a many games where Stat and Melo played well together? I do see your point about the pg though but the issue is bigger than that and perhaps both issues should be addressed. Stat needs to get the ball in a good spot, preferably in motion. But that was not the only problem (albeit it was a big problem). The injuries have been an ongoing concern but I do think there is a problem with spacing between Stat and Chandler as well as problems when Stat is out there with Melo. Proof? Well, I guess our eyes are proof enough and if you look at the stats (I'm sure someone can pull those up), they more than likely show what many have been saying. Though we will see, that is the cool part. I don't mind being disproved here.

Kidd might be able to really really help things out there. Felton worked out very well with Stat, but I think an equally big problem is between the before mentioned guys being able to play together.
As far as Prigs goes, I am really hoping for more from the guy. Big adjustment for him though being new in the NBA and 35 or so.

My point is this, you just can't make definitive proclamations without putting a pick and roll PG next to Amare and having him healthy...Without those two things, any conversation about Melo, Chandler and Amare is pointless...My gues is this, If Melo plays unselfish basketball where he trust his mates like he did last night, out front line will be a beast...But it's only a guess because STAT has not been healthy nor has he had anyone like Felton to play with in two years...

Did I sound so strong? I think it is fair to say that most of us have concerns about Melo, Stat and Chandler being able to effectively play together. I don't think I was making "definitive proclamations". I mean, there were problems when they played together and problems playing with good pg's as well. There have been many articles written about it, many posts spoke about it, etc. Again, it is a concern being raised. I get the impression that you are taking my "opinion" as a blind and unsubstantiated point when in fact it is an observation. I do hope our experienced PG's help the problem but the big concern amongst many is that it isn't ONLY a pg problem.

What is the difference between our two perspectives? Neither can be definitive until we see the games played and yet your perspective is correct and mine is wrong even though there is evidence to show my point in the form of actual games already played. I do think it might work, but I am not optimistic about it due to me thinking it is a bigger problem than just the PG's.

I hear ya, but I think I'm trying to project beyond you per se...Writers have to write, so they will make up stuff and run with it if it grabs people's attention...Now, having watch the Knicks the last few years, I don't recall Amare playing with a PG who got him the ball where he liked it after Felton left...Now Chauncey was here but was horrible running the pick and roll...U can agrue, but Lin had no interest involving Amare or Melo for that matter in the offense after Linsanity...U also have to admit that Amare seemed hurt after Melo arrived...He didn't have the same explosiveness as the first half...Now, we watch all the games and can notice this...Writers don't care, they are just looking in, their deadline is their deadline...So, I'm saying, how could anyone make such a judgement given those circumstances...We all know Amare needs a pick and roll PG that he didn't have...How can we deduce his overall play is because Melo is on the floor as well...But it's NY and the conversation will persist until proven wrong...

For example, I had been rooting for Felton to be a Knick again for about a year...Everyone was skeptical saying he was a bum...I thought the dude is out of shape and was sulking after he left NY...I thought this guy would get it in gear if he returns...Everyone was so definitive saying it can't happen and I was thinking how do u know this??? Let's see...So how do we know Amare and Melo can't coexist with Felton and Kidd in the backcourt...If Melo plays like he did last night, looking for others, I will now go one further..If Amare is healthy and Melo balls like he did last night the Knicks will beat the Heat and win it all...THERE, SAID IT!!!!!!!

Solace wrote:I was disappointed to discover that this thread was not about Jerome James.

fishmike wrote:

Solace wrote:I was disappointed to discover that this thread was not about Jerome James.

it still can be

Yay!!!