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yellowboy90
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11/10/2012  7:39 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:i would trade carmelo for those guys back right now, especially with the team we have.... and have kept lin..

you can add, I would also trade carmelo for kyrie irving, deron williams, rudy gay, etc... LOL


Irving or Harden, yes. Not Deron or Gay.

By next year Harden will be included to the Deron and Gay list. Hopefully Irving will learn to play D but he has potential to be very special but I want to see him lead his team into the playoffs.
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11/10/2012  7:44 PM
It speak volumes about Melo, the way he essentially said **** you to the organization coming in out of shape last season taking positions off. The guy is playing great, when he isn't getting 20 shots a game he has a.tendency to tune this out. He should taking it to the rack 80% of the time because no one could have stopped him.

The principle of the trade itself was the multiple picks, flexibility and the very slim chance the nets would have made a deal that wouldn't have made them a 30 win team for 5 years. Everyone assumes Melo was why Chandler came her, regardless of what is said he won a championship and Dallas let him go. He wad headed to a lottery team, Money was the factor.

Listen, we look great. Defense is refreshing we had a great emotional win to start the reason, beat up on a team without its best player and a shorthansed Mavs team. But until we secure a high seed and win a round its all water under the bridge. Since hes been here we have been mediocre.

Now he seems to have turned the corner. It's four games let's give it some time. It's encouraging, now keep it rollin
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11/10/2012  7:50 PM
MS wrote:It speak volumes about Melo, the way he essentially said **** you to the organization coming in out of shape last season taking positions off. The guy is playing great, when he isn't getting 20 shots a game he has a.tendency to tune this out. He should taking it to the rack 80% of the time because no one could have stopped him.

The principle of the trade itself was the multiple picks, flexibility and the very slim chance the nets would have made a deal that wouldn't have made them a 30 win team for 5 years. Everyone assumes Melo was why Chandler came her, regardless of what is said he won a championship and Dallas let him go. He wad headed to a lottery team, Money was the factor.

Listen, we look great. Defense is refreshing we had a great emotional win to start the reason, beat up on a team without its best player and a shorthansed Mavs team. But until we secure a high seed and win a round its all water under the bridge. Since hes been here we have been mediocre.

Now he seems to have turned the corner. It's four games let's give it some time. It's encouraging, now keep it rollin

It doesn't matter why Tyson chose to come here. We used the amnesty on Chauncey to be able to get Tyson and obviously Chauncey came in the Melo trade.
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11/10/2012  7:51 PM
Hell no, and anyone who would is an idiot.
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11/10/2012  8:04 PM
MS wrote:It speak volumes about Melo, the way he essentially said **** you to the organization coming in out of shape last season taking positions off. The guy is playing great, when he isn't getting 20 shots a game he has a.tendency to tune this out. He should taking it to the rack 80% of the time because no one could have stopped him.

The principle of the trade itself was the multiple picks, flexibility and the very slim chance the nets would have made a deal that wouldn't have made them a 30 win team for 5 years. Everyone assumes Melo was why Chandler came her, regardless of what is said he won a championship and Dallas let him go. He wad headed to a lottery team, Money was the factor.

Listen, we look great. Defense is refreshing we had a great emotional win to start the reason, beat up on a team without its best player and a shorthansed Mavs team. But until we secure a high seed and win a round its all water under the bridge. Since hes been here we have been mediocre.

Now he seems to have turned the corner. It's four games let's give it some time. It's encouraging, now keep it rollin

Even prior to Melo "turning the corner" I wouldn't reverse trade. When healthy he has carried the team plenty off his individual talent alone. No talent can overcome a starting backcourt of TD and Fields. Atrocious. You only realize the the bad talent we had on the team when you see a guy like fields in another uniform. TD we all know about. It was ridiculous. Add to that a coach who was an awful match for this team.

If you go by pure talent and performance that trade was a landslide win for the Knicks. No one we traded is sniffing allstar status. Gallo is the only one I would even say is a solid pro starter right now. and that's reaching.
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11/10/2012  8:35 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:i would trade carmelo for those guys back right now, especially with the team we have.... and have kept lin..

you can add, I would also trade carmelo for kyrie irving, deron williams, rudy gay, etc... LOL


Irving or Harden, yes. Not Deron or Gay.

By next year Harden will be included to the Deron and Gay list. Hopefully Irving will learn to play D but he has potential to be very special but I want to see him lead his team into the playoffs.

By next year???..Who in their right mind would trade Melo for Harden???...You can't build a team around Harden...Let's see how Houston does it...
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11/10/2012  8:56 PM
I thought the Knicks gave up too much but I wouldn't reverse the trade. Traditionally the team that gets the superstar almost always does better then the team that traded the superstar.
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11/10/2012  9:23 PM
VCoug wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
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Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:i would trade carmelo for those guys back right now, especially with the team we have.... and have kept lin..

you can add, I would also trade carmelo for kyrie irving, deron williams, rudy gay, etc... LOL


Irving or Harden, yes. Not Deron or Gay.

Irving or Harden? Thos are two max stars.

Not saying much here.


I mention Harden because I've said for over a year we should be going after him and I think we could have beaten the Rockets' offer. I mentioned Irving because TKF did.

I don't see how we could have put together a better offer than Houston's unless we trade Melo or Tyson for more trade assets.


It depends on what point in time you're referring to. Before the Melo trade? Before we amnestied Chauncey? Can there not be a third team involved?
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11/10/2012  9:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/10/2012  9:25 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:Harden is no Melo. Him disappearing last year in finals as 3rd option says a lot. No post game like Melo, doesnt' rebound like melo and doesn't defend like the New Melo.

as opposed to Melo's .390 post-season FG% for us?
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11/10/2012  9:51 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
VCoug wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:i would trade carmelo for those guys back right now, especially with the team we have.... and have kept lin..

you can add, I would also trade carmelo for kyrie irving, deron williams, rudy gay, etc... LOL


Irving or Harden, yes. Not Deron or Gay.

Irving or Harden? Thos are two max stars.

Not saying much here.


I mention Harden because I've said for over a year we should be going after him and I think we could have beaten the Rockets' offer. I mentioned Irving because TKF did.

I don't see how we could have put together a better offer than Houston's unless we trade Melo or Tyson for more trade assets.


It depends on what point in time you're referring to. Before the Melo trade? Before we amnestied Chauncey? Can there not be a third team involved?

Harden wasn't available before the Melo trade so I don't see how that would be an option. And I don't see how we put together a better deal than Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb, Toronto's 1st rounder, and another 1st from Houston not without trading either Melo or Tyson.

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11/10/2012  11:03 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Harden is no Melo. Him disappearing last year in finals as 3rd option says a lot. No post game like Melo, doesnt' rebound like melo and doesn't defend like the New Melo.

as opposed to Melo's .390 post-season FG% for us?

Hey Bonn what is Melos FG% or TS% in critical and clutch situations compared to the rest of the league? When the team absolutly needs a bucket?

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11/10/2012  11:26 PM
I would and I'd want the several picks we gave up back, in particular.
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11/10/2012  11:34 PM
3G4G wrote:I would and I'd want the several picks we gave up back, in particular.

The first rounder or the 2 second rounders?

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11/10/2012  11:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/10/2012  11:48 PM
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3G4G wrote:I would and I'd want the several picks we gave up back, in particular.

The first rounder or the 2 second rounders?

All of them hence several. And we gave up a pick by trading AR to Minny acquiring one they had and conveyed that pick to Denver. I don't like the 2016 swap either as we don't have full control over the pick. We very well could bottom out come 2016....as many have said our window isn't a wide open one.
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11/10/2012  11:48 PM
Gallinari is the next Dirk!
Chandler does it all! Defends, rebounds and when his jumper becomes consistent watch out!
Mosgov dropped 23 points on the Pistons and then 18 on the Clippers! Clearly the best C we've had since Ewing.
OMG!!!! We also traded draft picks. We may have drafted the next Mike Sweetney or Lavor Postell. Draft picks are GOLD!

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11/10/2012  11:58 PM
3G4G wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
3G4G wrote:I would and I'd want the several picks we gave up back, in particular.

The first rounder or the 2 second rounders?

All of them hence several. And we gave up a pick by trading AR to Minny acquiring one they had and conveyed that pick to Denver. I don't like the 2016 swap either as we don't have full control over the pick. We very well could bottom out come 2016....as many have said our window isn't a wide open one.

The trade was AR, Curry and Denver's second round pick not the Knicks. It was a three team trade. The pick belonged to the Nuggets. The Knicks gave a 1st, 2 seconds and the right to swap in 2016.
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11/11/2012  12:17 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Harden is no Melo. Him disappearing last year in finals as 3rd option says a lot. No post game like Melo, doesnt' rebound like melo and doesn't defend like the New Melo.

as opposed to Melo's .390 post-season FG% for us?

Hey Bonn what is Melos FG% or TS% in critical and clutch situations compared to the rest of the league? When the team absolutly needs a bucket?


.390. Every second is critical in the playoffs.
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11/11/2012  12:42 AM
Gallo is 3-15 tonight, 1-7 from 3.
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11/11/2012  1:30 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Harden is no Melo. Him disappearing last year in finals as 3rd option says a lot. No post game like Melo, doesnt' rebound like melo and doesn't defend like the New Melo.

as opposed to Melo's .390 post-season FG% for us?

Hey Bonn what is Melos FG% or TS% in critical and clutch situations compared to the rest of the league? When the team absolutly needs a bucket?


.390. Every second is critical in the playoffs.

Okay so you dont know. I wasn't being sarcastic I really wanted to know. Thought maybe you would have that info.

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11/11/2012  1:39 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:Harden is no Melo. Him disappearing last year in finals as 3rd option says a lot. No post game like Melo, doesnt' rebound like melo and doesn't defend like the New Melo.

as opposed to Melo's .390 post-season FG% for us?

Hey Bonn what is Melos FG% or TS% in critical and clutch situations compared to the rest of the league? When the team absolutly needs a bucket?


.390. Every second is critical in the playoffs.

What about his 9rebs, 4ast, 8+ft atmpts at 80%, 1stl, 3tos.

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