tj23 wrote:Without Amare we never get Melo...

tj23 wrote:Without Amare we never get Melo or Tyson and we win 40 or less games(at best) for who knows how long. We had to attract some big name here to earn some respect. Amare was the ticket out of hell, even if he put our cap back in it lol...

How can anyone write about Stat's money when we were paying millions per minute for the mess that was eCurry?

Half a season as team saviour/MVP candidate/Mr. 30 & 10 beats the living sheehit out of the value we got out of Eddie.

Arod has 2009 playoffs and a ring. The Yankees historically overpay for anyone and everyone. Carl Pavano? Having all those rings comes with a price.

mrKnickShot wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

tj23 wrote:Without Amare we never get Melo or Tyson and we win 40 or less games(at best) for who knows how long. We had to attract some big name here to earn some respect. Amare was the ticket out of hell, even if he put our cap back in it lol...

How can anyone write about Stat's money when we were paying millions per minute for the mess that was eCurry?

Half a season as team saviour/MVP candidate/Mr. 30 & 10 beats the living sheehit out of the value we got out of Eddie.

Arod has 2009 playoffs and a ring. The Yankees historically overpay for anyone and everyone. Carl Pavano? Having all those rings comes with a price.

Comparing Amare to Eddie Curry is disrespectful and does not validate the signing.

Bonn1997 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Without Amare we never get Melo...

Now I'm salivating just thinking about how nice that would have been.

If that doesn't happen then we resign Lee, Gallo, Chandler, etc for too much money. Anthony at the max or Gallo and Chandler combined at the max? That's an easy question. All these role players are getting paid way too much. The days of top FAs getting signed outright are over. If we didn't trade for Melo we would of lost him to the Nets and resigned those players for the same amount of money. If we wanted to maintain flexibility and trade them then we would be bidding to offer a max contract to Al Jefferson or Brandon Jennings this summer. A lot of fun that would be. The hate towards the way we went about things is puzzling. We executed a plan and put a team together that stands a chance. Chemistry and injuries are separate issues.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Without Amare we never get Melo...

Now I'm salivating just thinking about how nice that would have been.

If that doesn't happen then we resign Lee, Gallo, Chandler, etc for too much money. Anthony at the max or Gallo and Chandler combined at the max? That's an easy question. All these role players are getting paid way too much. The days of top FAs getting signed outright are over. If we didn't trade for Melo we would of lost him to the Nets and resigned those players for the same amount of money. If we wanted to maintain flexibility and trade them then we would be bidding to offer a max contract to Al Jefferson or Brandon Jennings this summer. A lot of fun that would be. The hate towards the way we went about things is puzzling. We executed a plan and put a team together that stands a chance. Chemistry and injuries are separate issues.

So you're only argument for the Melo trade is that without the trade, Dolan would have done something else dumb too? I'd readily agree with that. Neither scenario is desirable.

Bonn1997 wrote:They could have looked for other trades. Worst case scenario, I'd rather have lost those guys for nothing and kept our picks and cap space though than getting Melo and Amare.

Mray20 wrote:If someone were to have told most Knick fans in the summer of 2010 that they could have Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony most would have signed on, nobody saw the injuries coming, not to mention Dantoni being a stubborn coach who could not adjust to his persnonnel.

This is exactly right. Outside of getting Lebron, this plan was accomplished on paper. Other factors really caused people to look at this team differently.

Knixkik wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:They could have looked for other trades. Worst case scenario, I'd rather have lost those guys for nothing and kept our picks and cap space though than getting Melo and Amare.

Only someone like yourself who completely despises Melo would say that. Maybe Amare i can see your point. I think if you can get a top-15 player who is a game changer for a bunch of role players you do it. Again, the best player we traded was Felton, and we got him back. People were complaining about losing Mozgov and Felton, but we have Felton back, and you don't hold up a trade over Mozgov. Otherwise, it was a fair trade where we upgraded at the SF position. Say whatever you want about Melo, but as long as we have Melo we are a playoff team. If you have cap space and draft picks you are likely a lottery team and after many year best case is being as good as we are now. Cap space and draft picks only mean "hope" and people seem to tremendously overrate the "hope" factor.

A. Melo, Chandler, and a playoff team or B. cap space, draft picks, and competing with the Piston, Rockets, Kings, Bobcats, Wizard year after year? I go with option A.

Mray20 wrote:If someone were to have told most Knick fans in the summer of 2010 that they could have Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony most would have signed on, nobody saw the injuries coming, not to mention Dantoni being a stubborn coach who could not adjust to his persnonnel.

Nobody saw the injuries coming to Amare? Are you freakin kidding me? Did anyone see that he is tall?

Mray20 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Mray20 wrote:If someone were to have told most Knick fans in the summer of 2010 that they could have Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony most would have signed on, nobody saw the injuries coming, not to mention Dantoni being a stubborn coach who could not adjust to his persnonnel.

Nobody saw the injuries coming to Amare? Are you freakin kidding me? Did anyone see that he is tall?

Amare had that microfracturesurgery in 2005 and hadn't had problems with it since, that eye injury was a freak accident.

So the fact that he is uninsurable and that nobody had the guts to make him an offer based on his injury history other than phx (only 3 years) did not arch a brow?

Bonn1997 wrote:They could have looked for other trades. Worst case scenario, I'd rather have lost those guys for nothing and kept our picks and cap space though than getting Melo and Amare.

Nothing > Melo and Amare.

This is all anyone needs to know. Hate can be soooooo unfuhhhucking believable.

Bonn, you have a large sample size to show the value of Nothing during NBA postseason play, I suppose?