tj23 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Teams that get deep in the playoffs have 2, 3 sometimes 4 superstars. We don't have 1

Whoa! What is your definition of a superstar??

Only team in 57yrs to win without a superstar? Larry Brown's Pistons

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo in his prime and came to NYC to play with Amare. Instead he gets to play with an constantly injured former allstar.

Same thing happened to McGrady with Grant Hill.

Same complaints about both guys not getting their team deep in the playoffs.

Sad indeed.

He could have waited to sign in the summer and may have had a little more help. It's not like Amar'e didn't have history and he's played a lot of basketball considering his health issues. Dudes start breaking down at 30 look at Wade look at Kobe from their shoulders to their knees.

I don't feel sorry for Melo, I feel sorry for us having to suffer once again through this mess which much could have been avoided.

CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo in his prime and came to NYC to play with Amare. Instead he gets to play with an constantly injured former allstar.

Same thing happened to McGrady with Grant Hill.

Same complaints about both guys not getting their team deep in the playoffs.

Sad indeed.

He could have waited to sign in the summer and may have had a little more help. It's not like Amar'e didn't have history and he's played a lot of basketball considering his health issues. Dudes start breaking down at 30 look at Wade look at Kobe from their shoulders to their knees.

I don't feel sorry for Melo, I feel sorry for us having to suffer once again through this mess which much could have been avoided.

I keep reading people posting this and it just is not reality based. He wanted out of Denver, he wanted a new deal before the old cba ended and Denver wanted something for him. He wasn't staying and Denver wasn't keeping him to lose him for nothing.

I do believe he would have caved and went to New Jersey because he was about his paper. In theory though a S&T still could have taken place in the summer with us had he waited and Denver would have lost all leverage as he had free choice to sign where he wanted. Think of what Cleveland and Toronto got for Lebron and Bosh. My point was the price wouldn't have been as steep and he could have had more help had he waited and thought things out more thoroughly. Denver owned his BRs until they completely relinquish/renounce those rights.

One of the things the idiot kept saying during his Melo Drama....was that he would keep his "options" open. Apparently waiting until the summer wasn't one of them. Now he's stuck as are we except he has $20mil reasons to not feel that way.

Knixkik wrote:

GodNa7ion wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo in his prime and came to NYC to play with Amare. Instead he gets to play with an constantly injured former allstar.

Same thing happened to McGrady with Grant Hill.

Same complaints about both guys not getting their team deep in the playoffs.

Sad indeed.

He could have waited to sign in the summer and may have had a little more help. It's not like Amar'e didn't have history and he's played a lot of basketball considering his health issues. Dudes start breaking down at 30 look at Wade look at Kobe from their shoulders to their knees.

I don't feel sorry for Melo, I feel sorry for us having to suffer once again through this mess which much could have been avoided.

I keep reading people posting this and it just is not reality based. He wanted out of Denver, he wanted a new deal before the old cba ended and Denver wanted something for him. He wasn't staying and Denver wasn't keeping him to lose him for nothing.

Thank you, on top of that the team if Melo waited right now would lack Chandler/Shumpert/Smith because we'd be stuck with Gallinari on a big deal, lost Wilson Chandler for nothin

Our line-ups would be either

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Gallinari/Stoudemire

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Stoudemire/Mozgov

neither are better than potentially

Felton/Shumpert/Anthony/Stoudemire/Chandler

with a bench of Jason Kidd/JR Smith/Steve Novak/Marcus Camby and filler guys like Pablo Prigioni/Ronnie Brewer/Kurt Thomas/Rasheed Wallace

lets this team get healthy, get some chemistry and games under their belt. I wont judge this team til the All-Star Break

This is exactly right. Why do people fail to realize what our team would look like had Melo not forced his way here via trade? Chandler is better than anyone we would have retained. Would you rather have an overpaid Gallo or get a real center in tyson chandler, who was our best player last year? And we got back Felton, who was probably the best overall player we traded for Melo. When we traded for Melo, we only really lost Gallo and W Chandler, and got the opportunity to get t chandler.

What about the 4 picks that we gave them + Mozgov? You know we could really use an athletic center right now.

KnicksFE wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GodNa7ion wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo in his prime and came to NYC to play with Amare. Instead he gets to play with an constantly injured former allstar.

Same thing happened to McGrady with Grant Hill.

Same complaints about both guys not getting their team deep in the playoffs.

Sad indeed.

He could have waited to sign in the summer and may have had a little more help. It's not like Amar'e didn't have history and he's played a lot of basketball considering his health issues. Dudes start breaking down at 30 look at Wade look at Kobe from their shoulders to their knees.

I don't feel sorry for Melo, I feel sorry for us having to suffer once again through this mess which much could have been avoided.

I keep reading people posting this and it just is not reality based. He wanted out of Denver, he wanted a new deal before the old cba ended and Denver wanted something for him. He wasn't staying and Denver wasn't keeping him to lose him for nothing.

Thank you, on top of that the team if Melo waited right now would lack Chandler/Shumpert/Smith because we'd be stuck with Gallinari on a big deal, lost Wilson Chandler for nothin

Our line-ups would be either

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Gallinari/Stoudemire

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Stoudemire/Mozgov

neither are better than potentially

Felton/Shumpert/Anthony/Stoudemire/Chandler

with a bench of Jason Kidd/JR Smith/Steve Novak/Marcus Camby and filler guys like Pablo Prigioni/Ronnie Brewer/Kurt Thomas/Rasheed Wallace

lets this team get healthy, get some chemistry and games under their belt. I wont judge this team til the All-Star Break

This is exactly right. Why do people fail to realize what our team would look like had Melo not forced his way here via trade? Chandler is better than anyone we would have retained. Would you rather have an overpaid Gallo or get a real center in tyson chandler, who was our best player last year? And we got back Felton, who was probably the best overall player we traded for Melo. When we traded for Melo, we only really lost Gallo and W Chandler, and got the opportunity to get t chandler.

What about the 4 picks that we gave them + Mozgov? You know we could really use an athletic center right now.

Again those are just filler pieces. Nothing there is a difference maker. You don't not make a trade because you are reluctant to lose late picks and average prospects. Odds of those pieces becoming real difference makers on a championship team are slim to none. Mozgov was nice but doesn't show any indication that he is more than a spot-minutes center. The major pieces that were dealt were Gallinari, Chandler, and Felton. Gallinari and Chandler were due to be paid (and due to be overpaid) and we got Felton back. Doesn't seem like much was lost.

CrushAlot wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GodNa7ion wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo in his prime and came to NYC to play with Amare. Instead he gets to play with an constantly injured former allstar.

Same thing happened to McGrady with Grant Hill.

Same complaints about both guys not getting their team deep in the playoffs.

Sad indeed.

He could have waited to sign in the summer and may have had a little more help. It's not like Amar'e didn't have history and he's played a lot of basketball considering his health issues. Dudes start breaking down at 30 look at Wade look at Kobe from their shoulders to their knees.

I don't feel sorry for Melo, I feel sorry for us having to suffer once again through this mess which much could have been avoided.

I keep reading people posting this and it just is not reality based. He wanted out of Denver, he wanted a new deal before the old cba ended and Denver wanted something for him. He wasn't staying and Denver wasn't keeping him to lose him for nothing.

Thank you, on top of that the team if Melo waited right now would lack Chandler/Shumpert/Smith because we'd be stuck with Gallinari on a big deal, lost Wilson Chandler for nothin

Our line-ups would be either

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Gallinari/Stoudemire

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Stoudemire/Mozgov

neither are better than potentially

Felton/Shumpert/Anthony/Stoudemire/Chandler

with a bench of Jason Kidd/JR Smith/Steve Novak/Marcus Camby and filler guys like Pablo Prigioni/Ronnie Brewer/Kurt Thomas/Rasheed Wallace

lets this team get healthy, get some chemistry and games under their belt. I wont judge this team til the All-Star Break

This is exactly right. Why do people fail to realize what our team would look like had Melo not forced his way here via trade? Chandler is better than anyone we would have retained. Would you rather have an overpaid Gallo or get a real center in tyson chandler, who was our best player last year? And we got back Felton, who was probably the best overall player we traded for Melo. When we traded for Melo, we only really lost Gallo and W Chandler, and got the opportunity to get t chandler.

What about the 4 picks that we gave them + Mozgov? You know we could really use an athletic center right now.

I thought it was two picks, the Knicks 2014 first rounder and a second round pick. I am not sure I am right but I know it was only 1 first rounder because they had already moved most all of the first round picks they could to get under the cap.

Exactly right, who knows what picks they were because they were late and irrelevant. You can get good players with late draft picks of course, we have drafted plenty of quality role players in the last few years. But these assets are more valuable in theory than in actuality. Odds of getting impact players are very low.

CrushAlot wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GodNa7ion wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo in his prime and came to NYC to play with Amare. Instead he gets to play with an constantly injured former allstar.

Same thing happened to McGrady with Grant Hill.

Same complaints about both guys not getting their team deep in the playoffs.

Sad indeed.

He could have waited to sign in the summer and may have had a little more help. It's not like Amar'e didn't have history and he's played a lot of basketball considering his health issues. Dudes start breaking down at 30 look at Wade look at Kobe from their shoulders to their knees.

I don't feel sorry for Melo, I feel sorry for us having to suffer once again through this mess which much could have been avoided.

I keep reading people posting this and it just is not reality based. He wanted out of Denver, he wanted a new deal before the old cba ended and Denver wanted something for him. He wasn't staying and Denver wasn't keeping him to lose him for nothing.

Thank you, on top of that the team if Melo waited right now would lack Chandler/Shumpert/Smith because we'd be stuck with Gallinari on a big deal, lost Wilson Chandler for nothin

Our line-ups would be either

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Gallinari/Stoudemire

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Stoudemire/Mozgov

neither are better than potentially

Felton/Shumpert/Anthony/Stoudemire/Chandler

with a bench of Jason Kidd/JR Smith/Steve Novak/Marcus Camby and filler guys like Pablo Prigioni/Ronnie Brewer/Kurt Thomas/Rasheed Wallace

lets this team get healthy, get some chemistry and games under their belt. I wont judge this team til the All-Star Break

This is exactly right. Why do people fail to realize what our team would look like had Melo not forced his way here via trade? Chandler is better than anyone we would have retained. Would you rather have an overpaid Gallo or get a real center in tyson chandler, who was our best player last year? And we got back Felton, who was probably the best overall player we traded for Melo. When we traded for Melo, we only really lost Gallo and W Chandler, and got the opportunity to get t chandler.

What about the 4 picks that we gave them + Mozgov? You know we could really use an athletic center right now.

I thought it was two picks, the Knicks 2014 first rounder and a second round pick. I am not sure I am right but I know it was only 1 first rounder because they had already moved most all of the first round picks they could to get under the cap.

I clearly outlined everything in detail several times what was given up. Not sure why you continue to Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder this imperative information.

We gave up and/or let go

Gallo....(given up in the Melo deal)
Chandler....(given up in the Melo deal)
Moz....(given up in the Melo deal)
Felton....(given up in the Melo deal)
Curry....(expiring wasted in the Melo deal)
AR....(given up in the Melo deal)
2014....(given up in the Melo deal)
2016....(swap)(given up in the Melo deal)
2012 2nd....(given up in the Melo deal GSW's pick)
2013 2nd....(given up in the Melo deal GSW's pick)
Cash Considerations.....(given up in the Melo deal)
Waived Brewer.....(wasted in the Melo deal)
Jared Jeffries.....(S&T to get Felton)
Kostas.....(traded to get Felton)
Georgio.....(traded to get Felton)
future protected 2nd....(traded to get Felton)
Lin.....(wouldn't match signed Felton)
Tax Hit.....(Felton's additional salary)
Billups....(amnestied for Chandler)

We end up with Felton/Chandler/Melo

That's way too much for what we have now

3G4G wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GodNa7ion wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo in his prime and came to NYC to play with Amare. Instead he gets to play with an constantly injured former allstar.

Same thing happened to McGrady with Grant Hill.

Same complaints about both guys not getting their team deep in the playoffs.

Sad indeed.

He could have waited to sign in the summer and may have had a little more help. It's not like Amar'e didn't have history and he's played a lot of basketball considering his health issues. Dudes start breaking down at 30 look at Wade look at Kobe from their shoulders to their knees.

I don't feel sorry for Melo, I feel sorry for us having to suffer once again through this mess which much could have been avoided.

I keep reading people posting this and it just is not reality based. He wanted out of Denver, he wanted a new deal before the old cba ended and Denver wanted something for him. He wasn't staying and Denver wasn't keeping him to lose him for nothing.

Thank you, on top of that the team if Melo waited right now would lack Chandler/Shumpert/Smith because we'd be stuck with Gallinari on a big deal, lost Wilson Chandler for nothin

Our line-ups would be either

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Gallinari/Stoudemire

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Stoudemire/Mozgov

neither are better than potentially

Felton/Shumpert/Anthony/Stoudemire/Chandler

with a bench of Jason Kidd/JR Smith/Steve Novak/Marcus Camby and filler guys like Pablo Prigioni/Ronnie Brewer/Kurt Thomas/Rasheed Wallace

lets this team get healthy, get some chemistry and games under their belt. I wont judge this team til the All-Star Break

This is exactly right. Why do people fail to realize what our team would look like had Melo not forced his way here via trade? Chandler is better than anyone we would have retained. Would you rather have an overpaid Gallo or get a real center in tyson chandler, who was our best player last year? And we got back Felton, who was probably the best overall player we traded for Melo. When we traded for Melo, we only really lost Gallo and W Chandler, and got the opportunity to get t chandler.

What about the 4 picks that we gave them + Mozgov? You know we could really use an athletic center right now.

I thought it was two picks, the Knicks 2014 first rounder and a second round pick. I am not sure I am right but I know it was only 1 first rounder because they had already moved most all of the first round picks they could to get under the cap.

I clearly outlined everything in detail several times what was given up. Not sure why you continue to Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder this imperative information.

We gave up and/or let go

Gallo....(given up in the Melo deal)
Chandler....(given up in the Melo deal)
Moz....(given up in the Melo deal)
Felton....(given up in the Melo deal)
Curry....(expiring wasted in the Melo deal)
AR....(given up in the Melo deal)
2014....(given up in the Melo deal)
2016....(swap)(given up in the Melo deal)2012 2nd....(given up in the Melo deal GSW's pick)
2013 2nd....(given up in the Melo deal GSW's pick)
Cash Considerations.....(given up in the Melo deal)
Waived Brewer.....(wasted in the Melo deal)
Jared Jeffries.....(S&T to get Felton)
Kostas.....(traded to get Felton)
Georgio.....(traded to get Felton)
future protected 2nd....(traded to get Felton)
Lin.....(wouldn't match signed Felton)
Tax Hit.....(Felton's additional salary)
Billups....(amnestied for Chandler)

We end up with Felton/Chandler/Melo

That's way too much for what we have now

Since our current Knicks is constructed on a 3 year window, how exactly are we supposed to rebuild after that, when our 2014 and 2016 picks are going to Denver?

KnicksFE wrote:

3G4G wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GodNa7ion wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo in his prime and came to NYC to play with Amare. Instead he gets to play with an constantly injured former allstar.

Same thing happened to McGrady with Grant Hill.

Same complaints about both guys not getting their team deep in the playoffs.

Sad indeed.

He could have waited to sign in the summer and may have had a little more help. It's not like Amar'e didn't have history and he's played a lot of basketball considering his health issues. Dudes start breaking down at 30 look at Wade look at Kobe from their shoulders to their knees.

I don't feel sorry for Melo, I feel sorry for us having to suffer once again through this mess which much could have been avoided.

I keep reading people posting this and it just is not reality based. He wanted out of Denver, he wanted a new deal before the old cba ended and Denver wanted something for him. He wasn't staying and Denver wasn't keeping him to lose him for nothing.

Thank you, on top of that the team if Melo waited right now would lack Chandler/Shumpert/Smith because we'd be stuck with Gallinari on a big deal, lost Wilson Chandler for nothin

Our line-ups would be either

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Gallinari/Stoudemire

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Stoudemire/Mozgov

neither are better than potentially

Felton/Shumpert/Anthony/Stoudemire/Chandler

with a bench of Jason Kidd/JR Smith/Steve Novak/Marcus Camby and filler guys like Pablo Prigioni/Ronnie Brewer/Kurt Thomas/Rasheed Wallace

lets this team get healthy, get some chemistry and games under their belt. I wont judge this team til the All-Star Break

This is exactly right. Why do people fail to realize what our team would look like had Melo not forced his way here via trade? Chandler is better than anyone we would have retained. Would you rather have an overpaid Gallo or get a real center in tyson chandler, who was our best player last year? And we got back Felton, who was probably the best overall player we traded for Melo. When we traded for Melo, we only really lost Gallo and W Chandler, and got the opportunity to get t chandler.

What about the 4 picks that we gave them + Mozgov? You know we could really use an athletic center right now.

I thought it was two picks, the Knicks 2014 first rounder and a second round pick. I am not sure I am right but I know it was only 1 first rounder because they had already moved most all of the first round picks they could to get under the cap.

I clearly outlined everything in detail several times what was given up. Not sure why you continue to Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder this imperative information.

We gave up and/or let go

Gallo....(given up in the Melo deal)
Chandler....(given up in the Melo deal)
Moz....(given up in the Melo deal)
Felton....(given up in the Melo deal)
Curry....(expiring wasted in the Melo deal)
AR....(given up in the Melo deal)
2014....(given up in the Melo deal)
2016....(swap)(given up in the Melo deal)2012 2nd....(given up in the Melo deal GSW's pick)
2013 2nd....(given up in the Melo deal GSW's pick)
Cash Considerations.....(given up in the Melo deal)
Waived Brewer.....(wasted in the Melo deal)
Jared Jeffries.....(S&T to get Felton)
Kostas.....(traded to get Felton)
Georgio.....(traded to get Felton)
future protected 2nd....(traded to get Felton)
Lin.....(wouldn't match signed Felton)
Tax Hit.....(Felton's additional salary)
Billups....(amnestied for Chandler)

We end up with Felton/Chandler/Melo

That's way too much for what we have now

Since our current Knicks is constructed on a 3 year window, how exactly are we supposed to rebuild after that, when our 2014 and 2016 picks are going to Denver?

Well of course we'll rebuild like all the other teams who successfully rebuild through the draft and use bi drafts.... yrs 2013 and 2015 to strike gold

Knixkik wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

3G4G wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

GodNa7ion wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo in his prime and came to NYC to play with Amare. Instead he gets to play with an constantly injured former allstar.

Same thing happened to McGrady with Grant Hill.

Same complaints about both guys not getting their team deep in the playoffs.

Sad indeed.

He could have waited to sign in the summer and may have had a little more help. It's not like Amar'e didn't have history and he's played a lot of basketball considering his health issues. Dudes start breaking down at 30 look at Wade look at Kobe from their shoulders to their knees.

I don't feel sorry for Melo, I feel sorry for us having to suffer once again through this mess which much could have been avoided.

I keep reading people posting this and it just is not reality based. He wanted out of Denver, he wanted a new deal before the old cba ended and Denver wanted something for him. He wasn't staying and Denver wasn't keeping him to lose him for nothing.

Thank you, on top of that the team if Melo waited right now would lack Chandler/Shumpert/Smith because we'd be stuck with Gallinari on a big deal, lost Wilson Chandler for nothin

Our line-ups would be either

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Gallinari/Stoudemire

Felton/Fields/Anthony/Stoudemire/Mozgov

neither are better than potentially

Felton/Shumpert/Anthony/Stoudemire/Chandler

with a bench of Jason Kidd/JR Smith/Steve Novak/Marcus Camby and filler guys like Pablo Prigioni/Ronnie Brewer/Kurt Thomas/Rasheed Wallace

lets this team get healthy, get some chemistry and games under their belt. I wont judge this team til the All-Star Break

This is exactly right. Why do people fail to realize what our team would look like had Melo not forced his way here via trade? Chandler is better than anyone we would have retained. Would you rather have an overpaid Gallo or get a real center in tyson chandler, who was our best player last year? And we got back Felton, who was probably the best overall player we traded for Melo. When we traded for Melo, we only really lost Gallo and W Chandler, and got the opportunity to get t chandler.

What about the 4 picks that we gave them + Mozgov? You know we could really use an athletic center right now.

I thought it was two picks, the Knicks 2014 first rounder and a second round pick. I am not sure I am right but I know it was only 1 first rounder because they had already moved most all of the first round picks they could to get under the cap.

I clearly outlined everything in detail several times what was given up. Not sure why you continue to Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder this imperative information.

We gave up and/or let go

Gallo....(given up in the Melo deal)
Chandler....(given up in the Melo deal)
Moz....(given up in the Melo deal)
Felton....(given up in the Melo deal)
Curry....(expiring wasted in the Melo deal)
AR....(given up in the Melo deal)
2014....(given up in the Melo deal)
2016....(swap)(given up in the Melo deal)
2012 2nd....(given up in the Melo deal GSW's pick)
2013 2nd....(given up in the Melo deal GSW's pick)
Cash Considerations.....(given up in the Melo deal)
Waived Brewer.....(wasted in the Melo deal)
Jared Jeffries.....(S&T to get Felton)
Kostas.....(traded to get Felton)
Georgio.....(traded to get Felton)
future protected 2nd....(traded to get Felton)
Lin.....(wouldn't match signed Felton)
Tax Hit.....(Felton's additional salary)
Billups....(amnestied for Chandler)

We end up with Felton/Chandler/Melo

That's way too much for what we have now

And how many of those players (or picks) will ever be as successful as either Melo or Chandler. Probably zero.

And if you want to get into that much detail, players like JR Smith and Novak are on our roster as a result of the series of transactions so add them to the list, as well as Camby who we used assets attained to acquire.

Melo, T Chandler, Felton, Smith, Novak, Camby, etc >>>> Gallo, W Chandler, AR, Moz, Curry, Lin, etc.

Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli don't have the same statistical resume as Melo but those are the kind of players you need to win Chips. Something they have that Melo hasn't come close to sniffing. Tony Parker is also a Finals MVP you know he won this over Duncan who will always have a better resume than he correct?

I knew you were going to mention Smith and Novak.... how shortsighted and fallible of you to do so.

Novak and Lin were initially acquired as a waived players(500k-$1mil) tell me exactly how we wouldn't have been able to acquire them had we not traded all those assets for Melo?

Smith was acquired at a prorated MLE deal(2.3mil or thereabouts) tell me exactly how we wouldn't have been able to acquire him had we not traded all those assets for Melo? Felton and Curry were expirings 2011 and 2012 as were a few other players.

Those salary slots were always available for such players, use your brain. As long as we had roster spots available Smith/Novak/Lin were always gettable...... goodness gracious where's your IQ almighty?

Smith and Novak were in no way, shape, or form part of the degrees of trades. I specifically mentioned the assets and players directly involved via trades/amnesty

As far as Camby is concerned we could have traded a player like Moz for him straight up, while retaining all our other assets. Not saying I would have done so

I mention Novak and Smith because we would'nt have signed them if we never made the trade. Not enough roster space to get these players. It is a series of events that created a situation where we would sign these players. Seriously look at the players you are mentioning above. Only Gallo and Felton are NBA starters. We have Felton back. Gallo and Chandler are making around the same money combined as Melo. Are they worth that? Of course not. Everyone else on this list? Come on. When will fans stop living in a fantasy land where late picks/cap space is worth more than proven all-star players? There is no proof we would be a playoff team right now without Melo. We would be a team desperate because our best player is injured and declining. The idea of continuously flexbility and rebuilding is so much greater than the reality. The reality is all of those pieces you indicated above cannot form a team greater than one built around Melo. People would rather have a lottery team built around Gallo with "hope" than a playoff team.

Sorry dude a team can have 12 active players and 3 on the IR. We could have also cut whomever we wanted to make room for them should it be tight. Lin/Novak/Smith would have been an option of ours. Talk yourself into thinking they weren't if you want.