AnubisADL wrote:David Lee is not getting us over the hump. Healthy Amare is a difference maker. Healthy Lee is a role player.

Whats better? David Lee playing or Amare on IR?

David Lee is not a worse defender as is a far far far better rebounder. He also moves the ball much better. He might fit better on this team.

David Lee is not a difference maker. Sadly he is the best we are going to get.

gunsnewing wrote:

NUPE wrote:Well, this sucks. No sugar coating that. Hopefully, it is only two to three weeks.

No way this is just 2-3weeks. I'm thinking more like 6weeks and then it will take a long time for him to get in game shape. Then by year 3 of his contract he might see some resemblance of chemistry with Melo and Tyson.

Did you examine his knee?!?!

tkf wrote:i say do a complete overhaul of our two "stars" and I use that term loosely.... amare to Houston for K mart, I am sure there will be other picks and fillers involved..

carmelo to the hawks for josh smith, and as with amare I am sure there will be fillers and picks....

play josh at pf, martin at sf and chandler at center.. I can roll with that..

Papabear Says

For how long?? Until you get mad at them and then you will want them to be traded also? Neither are going anywhere until we see what we have.

Anji wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Team isn't going to compete without guys who can produce in the playoffs.

David Lee is not a difference maker. Sadly he is the best we are going to get.

You keep saying he isn't a difference maker, how much more of difference are expecting than a PF that plays every game, grabs you 10 boards, get's 20 points in his sleep and can you start the offense threw him in the high post because he is a great passer???

What is a difference maker to you, because Lee is all-star production on any team he plays on.

I'm not opposed to losing Chandler if we get the right pieces back.

AnubisADL wrote:I was thinking more about it and the only way to get value for Amare is to package him with Tyson Chandler.

I'm not opposed to losing Chandler if we get the right pieces back.

No team is taking back $35mil in Salary giving back value. You're nuts. It's not Chandler is exactly a player you want to be anchored with either health wise. He's liable to crumble himself.

Packing Amar'e with Shumpert may get us some value.

3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I was thinking more about it and the only way to get value for Amare is to package him with Tyson Chandler.

I'm not opposed to losing Chandler if we get the right pieces back.

No team is taking back $35mil in Salary giving back value. You're nuts. It's not Chandler is exactly a player you want to be anchored with either health wise. He's liable to crumble himself.

Packing Amar'e with Shumpert may get us some value.

Amare and Chandler give a mediocre team a solid front court. Knicks are going to have to rebuild on the fly around Melo.

RonRon wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I feel a very long RonRon post coming.

LOL and a NixLuva defending Amare about his POST game and All Star status....

Josh Smith and David Lee are 2 players that I think just fit much better than Amare in the starting lineup, next choice would be Aldridge.
With Smith and Lee, our rebounding, defense, and spacing would improve much better with their all round games/mobility and would fit much better.
However, I do not see us able to trade for those players.

RonRon wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Anji wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Team isn't going to compete without guys who can produce in the playoffs.

David Lee is not a difference maker. Sadly he is the best we are going to get.

You keep saying he isn't a difference maker, how much more of difference are expecting than a PF that plays every game, grabs you 10 boards, get's 20 points in his sleep and can you start the offense threw him in the high post because he is a great passer???

What is a difference maker to you, because Lee is all-star production on any team he plays on.

Lee would fit very well between melo and chandler.

Lee has improved every year, one of the most under rated efficient offensive players in the league with FG%, FT% and attempts, and has a post game/high IQ/good mid range shot/ ability to penetrate/pass/ facilitate and finish. His all round skills and ability to handle the ball allows his team mates to play off the ball and does not need the ball to be effective.
As a forward with some guard skills, he would compliment this team much better than Amare while Amare will have the edge on Center with his size. With Chandler able to help Lee and patrol the paint, Lee's DEF at PF fits much better than Amare. Problem is Lee's contract is 1 year longer than Amare's, in 3 years when Chandler/Amare/Melo's *although he can opt out 1 year earlier*, the Knick's would lose the flexibility at retooling with all the FA's that would be in the market with many PG's and PF/C.

FA's

Dragic *player option*, Lin, Love, Aldridge, *Irving is highly unlikely to be available as he would get a max extension, under rookie contract*

The Knick's would have to ability to spend their salary cap wisely, creating a much more balanced roster, while not over paying for 2 max FA's that do not have holes to their games.

With Kidd/Camby retired, they would still have the ability to create S&T's with Melo, Amare, Tyson, as assets like what the Nets did, and decide who would be staying.