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10/17/2012  11:03 AM
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense
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10/17/2012  11:04 AM
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

"A source close to the team". Who could that be? Landry?

LMAO!
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10/17/2012  11:05 AM
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Forget the article, but trust your own eyes as to what you have seen, and everything you have read.

When you read this article most of us have gained nothing.

Regarding Melo and Lin, its perfectly ok for Melo to push back not being the man when ownership has basically build it for you.

I think if Lin stayed it was not to hand him the keys and be the Leader. That could come in time but not a rookie.

MDA had to go because he was not having any of Melo being the Alpha dog. How many times have we read, or seen this? I myself bought it up in the last two weeks.

Its a shame we could not develope Lin into that kind of player because its evident Melo is great as a piece of the puzzle but not as the "leader".

TKF has pointed out he has not won an MVP, or lead the league in scoring, or rebounding, etc. No distiguished marks to annoint him more than what he is, a great scorer and all star! Thats a lot, but a fringe Franchise player. We saw Dirk rise above that and win and MVP and eventual title.

Its not beyond Melo to do this so we can all sit back and see what happens. He is in the prime of his career, 15 lbs lighter and can have that kind of season we can talk about for years. Tune in!

nalod I have been saying this for a while, I even posted that in another thread... building a team around melo is a HUGE mistake, doesn't mean he can't be a useful piece. the same way amare can be... but I don't think you build around either guy.. to limited not just talent wise, but from a leadership perspective.. but melo fans would have it no other way.. either he is a star or I am a hater..

Dirk did rise above that but lets be real, it was a progression for dirk, one that we could see, dirk didn't have problems with coach's, didn't turn his nose up at teamates.. different kind of guys we are talking about here.... dirk allowed guys like nash to be nash, terry to be terry.... Carmelo had a problem with lin being Lin, he had a problem with dantoni doing things his way... this is not the mark of a leader, especially when things have been done your way with little results..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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10/17/2012  11:06 AM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

I believed this to be the case way before the article came out.. read my post man...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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10/17/2012  11:07 AM
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

I believed this to be the case way before the article came out.. read my post man...

i have read your posts and its pretty much the same thing over and over again so i dont tae it that serious. Like i said before both melo and lin have their flaws. But now lin is gone and we have a pretty good team right now so why not root for them?
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10/17/2012  11:08 AM
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

I believed this to be the case way before the article came out.. read my post man...


It's by ESPN the Magazine with uncited sources so it must be true!

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10/17/2012  11:19 AM
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10/17/2012  11:21 AM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

I believed this to be the case way before the article came out.. read my post man...

i have read your posts and its pretty much the same thing over and over again so i dont tae it that serious. Like i said before both melo and lin have their flaws. But now lin is gone and we have a pretty good team right now so why not root for them?

irish it may sound the same because I am not a flip flopper.. should try it sometimes.. no offense, but you do play both sides of the fence buddy..

and who said, I am not rooting for the knicks to win... I am just not cosigning all of this BS.. I don't agree with it...

a parent may not like the choices their child makes, but they will let them hear it every time they can, but that parent I am sure is not rooting for their child not to succeed.... I just don't think the knicks will.. and I am tired of people telling me I am a hater or crazy for not believing in this mess we have created ....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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10/17/2012  11:23 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

I believed this to be the case way before the article came out.. read my post man...


It's by ESPN the Magazine with uncited sources so it must be true!

doesn't matter... if it was a fluff article you would be busting in your pants... uncited sources or not... I was saying the same things in this article long before it came out.. where there is smoke, there is fire...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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10/17/2012  11:24 AM
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

I believed this to be the case way before the article came out.. read my post man...

i have read your posts and its pretty much the same thing over and over again so i dont tae it that serious. Like i said before both melo and lin have their flaws. But now lin is gone and we have a pretty good team right now so why not root for them?

irish it may sound the same because I am not a flip flopper.. should try it sometimes.. no offense, but you do play both sides of the fence buddy..

and who said, I am not rooting for the knicks to win... I am just not cosigning all of this BS.. I don't agree with it...

a parent may not like the choices their child makes, but they will let them hear it every time they can, but that parent I am sure is not rooting for their child not to succeed.... I just don't think the knicks will.. and I am tired of people telling me I am a hater or crazy for not believing in this mess we have created ....

i dont play both sides. I have said many times that i like lin but im happy with felton/kidd/prigioni. Also im not a melo lover. I support him but i have pointed out his flaws as well
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10/17/2012  11:27 AM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

I believed this to be the case way before the article came out.. read my post man...

i have read your posts and its pretty much the same thing over and over again so i dont tae it that serious. Like i said before both melo and lin have their flaws. But now lin is gone and we have a pretty good team right now so why not root for them?

irish it may sound the same because I am not a flip flopper.. should try it sometimes.. no offense, but you do play both sides of the fence buddy..

and who said, I am not rooting for the knicks to win... I am just not cosigning all of this BS.. I don't agree with it...

a parent may not like the choices their child makes, but they will let them hear it every time they can, but that parent I am sure is not rooting for their child not to succeed.... I just don't think the knicks will.. and I am tired of people telling me I am a hater or crazy for not believing in this mess we have created ....

i dont play both sides. I have said many times that i like lin but im happy with felton/kidd/prigioni. Also im not a melo lover. I support him but i have pointed out his flaws as well

irish, you are happy with felton kidd and this prig fella... ok, I lets just revisit this come mid season.. if you still feel the same, then I apologize....... I do have the feeling that you would cosign any 3pg's this franchise put in... it is ok to not like a move the knicks make...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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10/17/2012  11:29 AM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

So we're supposed to believe Anthony was the one to tell D'AnToni to play Lin when Linsanity took flight?

Is this another pick and choose moment according to argumentative circumstance?
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10/17/2012  11:31 AM
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

I believed this to be the case way before the article came out.. read my post man...

i have read your posts and its pretty much the same thing over and over again so i dont tae it that serious. Like i said before both melo and lin have their flaws. But now lin is gone and we have a pretty good team right now so why not root for them?

irish it may sound the same because I am not a flip flopper.. should try it sometimes.. no offense, but you do play both sides of the fence buddy..

and who said, I am not rooting for the knicks to win... I am just not cosigning all of this BS.. I don't agree with it...

a parent may not like the choices their child makes, but they will let them hear it every time they can, but that parent I am sure is not rooting for their child not to succeed.... I just don't think the knicks will.. and I am tired of people telling me I am a hater or crazy for not believing in this mess we have created ....

i dont play both sides. I have said many times that i like lin but im happy with felton/kidd/prigioni. Also im not a melo lover. I support him but i have pointed out his flaws as well

irish, you are happy with felton kidd and this prig fella... ok, I lets just revisit this come mid season.. if you still feel the same, then I apologize....... I do have the feeling that you would cosign any 3pg's this franchise put in... it is ok to not like a move the knicks make...

First of all tkf i respect you opinions and i would never try to change your mind but please respect mine. I have always liked felton. In fcat i was pissed when he was included in the melo trade because in the original trade only gallo and wilson were going.
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10/17/2012  11:41 AM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

I believed this to be the case way before the article came out.. read my post man...

i have read your posts and its pretty much the same thing over and over again so i dont tae it that serious. Like i said before both melo and lin have their flaws. But now lin is gone and we have a pretty good team right now so why not root for them?

irish it may sound the same because I am not a flip flopper.. should try it sometimes.. no offense, but you do play both sides of the fence buddy..

and who said, I am not rooting for the knicks to win... I am just not cosigning all of this BS.. I don't agree with it...

a parent may not like the choices their child makes, but they will let them hear it every time they can, but that parent I am sure is not rooting for their child not to succeed.... I just don't think the knicks will.. and I am tired of people telling me I am a hater or crazy for not believing in this mess we have created ....

i dont play both sides. I have said many times that i like lin but im happy with felton/kidd/prigioni. Also im not a melo lover. I support him but i have pointed out his flaws as well

irish, you are happy with felton kidd and this prig fella... ok, I lets just revisit this come mid season.. if you still feel the same, then I apologize....... I do have the feeling that you would cosign any 3pg's this franchise put in... it is ok to not like a move the knicks make...

First of all tkf i respect you opinions and i would never try to change your mind but please respect mine. I have always liked felton. In fcat i was pissed when he was included in the melo trade because in the original trade only gallo and wilson were going.

which is why I said, we will revisit this later and if you feel the same, my apologies..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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10/17/2012  11:45 AM

LIke I said, trust your eyes. Linsanity was about the team and they came together.

No doubt Lin had to dial it back but Tyson was on board.

MDA empowered the kid. Melo is a good guy but on the court his play was taking them down.

18-6 was about the team putting it all to the side and making it work. They did, and kudos to Melo for a hell of a run.

And I really do believe at the right price the knicks bring him back, Lin dials it back down and feeds Melo.

If Melo is not cool with not being the Alpha dog and becomes a biytch then we'll see it.

We can scream and yell but Melo is on the roster and thats all there it to it.

I think the NBA has become a guard oriented league and Im very not crazy about our back court. Felton is a great back up. Brewer is an off the bench role player. Thats my take. Lin and SHump I thought was a great combo.

As for Lin, He got 3 years in my book before I call him a bust. I know what I saw with him. We saw the potential. It did not have to be Linsanity for it to work. He got paid and left. Can't blame him.

As for Melo, I know what I have seen. I see Glen rice, Glenn Robinson, and Dominique Wilkins. All great players. If he played the 4 he'd be Adrian Dantly under the basket. All great players who put up great numbers. They were not champions.

Im rooting for Melo to change that.
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10/17/2012  11:49 AM
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IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

So we're supposed to believe Anthony was the one to tell D'AnToni to play Lin when Linsanity took flight?

Is this another pick and choose moment according to argumentative circumstance?

Somebody had to tell that stubborn dumbass to put him in.

Fact, Mike D'Antoni was about to waive Lin's ass before the NJ game happened for Mike James which is actually confirmed, not just bullshyt conjecture by a columnist looking for page views or selling magazines:

Instead, with James confirming the speculation Tuesday, the Knicks held onto Lin and "the Lin-sanity happened." James was subsequently signed by the Bulls and re-signed to a 10-day contract Tuesday.

"But you tip your hat to a guy like (Lin)," said James, a ninth-year journeyman who has played three games for a total of 25 minutes and 12 points since first signing with the Bulls to help fill the void after Derrick Rose injured his toe. "He took advantage of his opportunity and when he got on the court, he made the most of his time.
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10/17/2012  12:06 PM
Really why would anyone have a problem with this article. Ohh yea, because it's true. Every year the sports writers are spot on with their assessment of this team. Each year we suck or under achieve. It's not bias if it's true.

It is clear as day who Melo is and he didn't like what was happening so he forced his hand. He didn't want to be in limbo? Like he wasn't going to get paid. I don't understand what a lockout in which no one gets paid is that big of a deal to go in without a contract. If you have made 100MM in your career already and you want to be on a team it's selfish to gut the roster so you can have your money sooner. To me that's not about winning, it's about money, and when you're printing it you don't have to be so greedy to sabotage everything in your path. He pouted because he didn't get his way plain and simple. Dolan turned the keys over much like he did to Isiah and Marbury. Until Melo comes out and proves himself here the criticism will always be fair. 18-6 means absolute **** when you come into camp out of shape and bitch your way through the season. Without Lin our superstar leads the knicks to the lottery in the eastern conference and that's a fact. So one month doesn't make up for a season...
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10/17/2012  12:44 PM
LaLa: Hey honey, JR could use some more $$$$ till you help him earn his next contract

Melo: Thank You for throwing Lin under the buss with me

JR Smith: Appreciated it thanks, TEAM MELO always! Besides, if NY matched that ridicioulous contract, Knicks probably will not give me a bigger contract when I opt out. Besides, I want the Garden to cheer for US and not BOO you.

Melo: Yeah, Dantoni and his golden child had to go, I can't stand in the corner and perform like I did in TEAM USA all the time. I need to ball in my hands to create more STATS and do my signature move, JAB JAB JAB shoot!
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10/17/2012  12:48 PM
knicks1248 wrote:I love when they say " a person close to the knicks, or a person close to melo" that could be the damn water boy, or a cheer leader..or another beat writer..

sorry felton, Chris paul will be a knick..If this point guard tandum breaks down..I would say something like TYSON FELTON SHUMP 1st pick for jordan and pual 2 2nd round picks..

The fact that Felton came back to the knick as a stop gap, is crazy when you really think about it

Yeah, the Clippers would be tripping over themselves to accept that offer.

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ChuckBuck wrote:
3G4G wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
tkf wrote:This is why Lin isn't here.. and it is sad....


D'Antoni's conflict-averse style allowed the situation to fester. Teammates prodded Anthony to give more effort in practice. "Jeremy is a tough guy," says a source close to the team. "He told Carmelo under no uncertain terms, 'I'm not going to give you the ball unless you create space and run the plays.' None of the other guys had a problem with it. Tyson [Chandler] didn't, Amar'e didn't. They knew they had a better chance with the ball in Lin's hands in the last few minutes."

what a great teamate is carmelo dude is..... LOL.. smdh

look you cant believe everything you read. I mean the point of the media is to stir up **** that most of the time is not even true. Believe me I am critical of melo but this article is nonsense

So we're supposed to believe Anthony was the one to tell D'AnToni to play Lin when Linsanity took flight?

Is this another pick and choose moment according to argumentative circumstance?

Somebody had to tell that stubborn dumbass to put him in.
Fact, Mike D'Antoni was about to waive Lin's ass before the NJ game happened for Mike James which is actually confirmed, not just bullshyt conjecture by a columnist looking for page views or selling magazines:

Instead, with James confirming the speculation Tuesday, the Knicks held onto Lin and "the Lin-sanity happened." James was subsequently signed by the Bulls and re-signed to a 10-day contract Tuesday.

"But you tip your hat to a guy like (Lin)," said James, a ninth-year journeyman who has played three games for a total of 25 minutes and 12 points since first signing with the Bulls to help fill the void after Derrick Rose injured his toe. "He took advantage of his opportunity and when he got on the court, he made the most of his time.

Who is that? The same guy that ran Lin out of town because Linsanity took the spot light away from him and captures the heart of fans from all over the world.
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