Nalod wrote:
Grunny, here yah go:

"We enjoyed what was called LInsanity last year and was quite thrilled to be a part of it. We thought Jeremy has a great deal of potential and was looking forward to him be a part of the knicks for many years. The sad truth is in todays CBA we could not match the offer because of implications down the road that could be problematic to futre roster flexibility. We loved his potential but in some situations you can pay if you feel it can take you over the top, and maybe Lin has that kind of potential but we just felt at a certain price we thought it best to go in another direction. We look forward to seeing Jeremey in the future and wish him the best of luck!"

No so hard is it? Tell the truth and not try to be a bytch about it.

Correction Nalod

Grunny: I personally wanted him back, I been after this kid since he came in the league, Thought he would do well under MDA, not only did he play well enough to earn himself a nice little pay day, he actually got me promoted in the process.
I have a sensitive boss who thinks he knows more then he actual does, the contract was a little out there and the financially ramifications were pretty enormous for such a player, but at the end of the day my dick of a boss, who has 43 million dollars in his piggy bank, felt be trade and hurt like a bitch..

If Ray Allen, a future Hall of Fame guard, could leave the Celtics, ending a spectacular five-year run with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce as Boston's Big Three, why are we kvetching over an often-injured, second year guard who has never played a full season? The Boston Celtics are focused on busting The Heat and Ray Allen's azz. As it should be. No looking back and absolutely no whining.

Does anyone think the Boston Celtics are crying about Ray Allen, or have they moved forward?

Grumwald is moving on.

mrKnickShot wrote:

misterearl wrote:why are we kvetching over an often-injured, second year guard who has never played a full season?

Because he played beautiful basketball.

Absolutely. So did Ray Allen. And Allen is a Hall of Famer.

Rivers has come to realize that Allen's leaving was inevitable and his return would've only exacerbated the issues and made for an untenable situation in Boston. Shooting guards Jason Terry and Courtney Lee were signed in free agency, and they'll replace Allen.

"For a week or two, I was really disappointed, pissed, because I thought it was for all the wrong reasons," Rivers said. "It was more about himself, his team. And then I realized: Well, it should be about himself. It was free agency. I wasn't thinking right.

"If Ray came back, it had to be because he was thinking, 'We're going to work this [stuff] out, and we're going to win.' And if he didn't come back, it was because he thought he couldn't work it out here. What they're asking him to do in Miami, he just couldn't do in Boston.

"But here's what wasn't going to change: The ball's not going to be in Ray's hands more, the ball's going to be in Rondo's hands. That's not going to change. Now that you've voiced you should have the ball more, or you want to start, or you want more freedom in the offense, that's not going to go away. It's going to be the same stuff. If he comes back, it's going to be because he's figured it out. If he leaves, it's going to be because he didn't get over it. Whatever he decided, his decision was right."

Similarly, in NYC, the basketball is in the hands of Raymond Felton, Jason Kidd and Pablo Prigioni.

"Life Go On."

misterearl wrote:Doc Rivers Asked About Ray Allen

If Ray Allen, a future Hall of Fame guard, could leave the Celtics, ending a spectacular five-year run with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce as Boston's Big Three, why are we kvetching over an often-injured, second year guard who has never played a full season? The Boston Celtics are focused on busting The Heat and Ray Allen's azz. As it should be. No looking back and absolutely no whining.

Does anyone think the Boston Celtics are crying about Ray Allen, or have they moved forward?

Grumwald is moving on.

the knicks didn't get that with lin, so much potential we never will get to see fulfilled here in a knick uniform, instead we will have to sit back and watch felton play like he is drunk, and prigs move like he is in quicksand.... how exciting!!!! smdh

tkf wrote:

misterearl wrote:Doc Rivers Asked About Ray Allen

If Ray Allen, a future Hall of Fame guard, could leave the Celtics, ending a spectacular five-year run with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce as Boston's Big Three, why are we kvetching over an often-injured, second year guard who has never played a full season? The Boston Celtics are focused on busting The Heat and Ray Allen's azz. As it should be. No looking back and absolutely no whining.

Does anyone think the Boston Celtics are crying about Ray Allen, or have they moved forward?

Grumwald is moving on.

Boston got the best of ray allen that they could. they won a ring with him, they reached the mountain top... ray wanted to leave after 5 years.. all great things come to an end..

the knicks didn't get that with lin, so much potential we never will get to see fulfilled here in a knick uniform, instead we will have to sit back and watch felton play like he is drunk, and prigs move like he is in quicksand.... how exciting!!!! smdh

Very exciting to finally have a PG that can defend any other PG in the league...Able to run an offense inclusive of our two top players...If Felton is able to knock down his shot with consistency, which Lin can't do either, it will only be the Lin groupies talking about him come playoff time....

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

misterearl wrote:Doc Rivers Asked About Ray Allen

If Ray Allen, a future Hall of Fame guard, could leave the Celtics, ending a spectacular five-year run with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce as Boston's Big Three, why are we kvetching over an often-injured, second year guard who has never played a full season? The Boston Celtics are focused on busting The Heat and Ray Allen's azz. As it should be. No looking back and absolutely no whining.

Does anyone think the Boston Celtics are crying about Ray Allen, or have they moved forward?

Grumwald is moving on.

Boston got the best of ray allen that they could. they won a ring with him, they reached the mountain top... ray wanted to leave after 5 years.. all great things come to an end..

the knicks didn't get that with lin, so much potential we never will get to see fulfilled here in a knick uniform, instead we will have to sit back and watch felton play like he is drunk, and prigs move like he is in quicksand.... how exciting!!!! smdh

Very exciting to finally have a PG that can defend any other PG in the league...Able to run an offense inclusive of our two top players...If Felton is able to knock down his shot with consistency, which Lin can't do either, it will only be the Lin groupies talking about him come playoff time....

I believe Lin is actually a better jump shooter than Felton. Everything else in your post is spot on though.

On last season - “I’d be a huge liar if I told myself, I knew I could do that. That’s not realistic. Let’s just be honest. I had no idea I could play like that."

After the Mike Woodson June dinner in LA with Lin, Carmelo Anthony and Tyson Chandler - "Before that dinner, I had reservations. Afterward I was like, Yeah, this is going to be good.”

On his treatment - “There’s a lot of perceptions and stereotypes of Asian-Americans that are out there today. I’m going to have to play well for a longer period of time for certain people to believe it, because I’m Asian. And that’s just the reality of it.”

holfresh wrote:I really don't get how this works with the Lin groupies...We hate Carmelo because he competes with Lin for the spotlight and lead player...We hate Felton because we want to prove no one else can play PG for the NY Knicks..We only wanted Kidd as a back-up because he is no threat to Lin no matter how badly Lin plays...Woody was not a good choice for Lin's game...But call themselves Knick fans...

im happy with what we have now in regards to felton/kidd/pablo however i think those people are still diehard knick fans they just embraced linsanity. Linsanity was probably best best thing weve seen in the garden since 2000

IrishKnickFan wrote:

holfresh wrote:I really don't get how this works with the Lin groupies...We hate Carmelo because he competes with Lin for the spotlight and lead player...We hate Felton because we want to prove no one else can play PG for the NY Knicks..We only wanted Kidd as a back-up because he is no threat to Lin no matter how badly Lin plays...Woody was not a good choice for Lin's game...But call themselves Knick fans...

im happy with what we have now in regards to felton/kidd/pablo however i think those people are still diehard knick fans they just embraced linsanity. Linsanity was probably best best thing weve seen in the garden since 2000

Papabear Says

We keep talking about linsanity in those six or seven games but what about the other players on the floor at that time. All of them were playing above thier game. It took LeBron and the Heat to bring us back down to earth. Lin was magic during that time and the news media ran with it. Now he have to prove himself for what he really is. And the buzz word in Houston is that they got suckered for 25million. Yes the Knicks new something that Houston didn't know and that was that Lin's body couldn't hold up for a half a season playing those minuets.

Papabear wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

holfresh wrote:I really don't get how this works with the Lin groupies...We hate Carmelo because he competes with Lin for the spotlight and lead player...We hate Felton because we want to prove no one else can play PG for the NY Knicks..We only wanted Kidd as a back-up because he is no threat to Lin no matter how badly Lin plays...Woody was not a good choice for Lin's game...But call themselves Knick fans...

im happy with what we have now in regards to felton/kidd/pablo however i think those people are still diehard knick fans they just embraced linsanity. Linsanity was probably best best thing weve seen in the garden since 2000

Papabear Says

We keep talking about linsanity in those six or seven games but what about the other players on the floor at that time. All of them were playing above thier game. It took LeBron and the Heat to bring us back down to earth. Lin was magic during that time and the news media ran with it. Now he have to prove himself for what he really is. And the buzz word in Houston is that they got suckered for 25million. Yes the Knicks new something that Houston didn't know and that was that Lin's body couldn't hold up for a half a season playing those minuets.

This is not really determined yet is it?

In my mind he has two years to play up to his third year salary. He has to figure out a lot of things on the court and as a leader of his new team. As far as holding up, the kid reminds me what Phil Ford did coming out of UNC back in the day. The kid might have been one of the best PG's in college history and took that game to the NBA. Lin is effective as a threat to penetrate and it beats down the body. Phil Ford eventually had health problems as it could not sustain it for a long time. Lin has to look at how Nash is able to mix it up. Back up and Nash kills you with the shot. Play up and he'll blow buy you. Double and trap and he finds the pick and roll. Stop him penetrating and Nash kicks it out.

YOu need tools to do that around you. Novak was great in the corner, Tyson on the pick and roll. I believe Melo could have had many easy baskets and we Know Amare can pick and roll.

But in the end we all know the contract was "ridiculous" and while most of us prefer he stayed, Knicks never made an offer and Rockets over paid to get the man they wanted.

Right now they are treating him like an investment and won't press him. He'll have time to work it thru.

For some Knick fans he is like the hot college girl we dated and had a brief but amazing time with! She meets a dude with lots of money and goes away. Over the years you hope she gets fat and is no longer hot. Bottom line is she is gone and what you do wit your life is what counts. If you end up with a great girl, all pretty and hot and your happy, it don't matter how the Ex turned out. If the KNicks succeed without Lin its irrelevant.

Felton is like the rebound chick who lost lots of weight and wants to flaunt it. He'll do for while but we know long term he is not the kind of player Lin had the potential to be. What is a long time with the knicks? Two or three seasons? Who the hell knows!

Knicks just need to take care of business themselves. If not, then the bitching will continue.