Nalod wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:the nets owner was crushing adults at chess as a 6 year old boy. the dude has a superior intellect.

his maternal grandmother was a doctoral candidate.

he is entirely self made and utterly focussed on keeping his mind and body sharp and in shape.

the knicks owner is a spoiled brat of an heir who was born crossing home plate believing he has hit a home run.

he is entirely a product of circumstance and has been an alcoholic and drug abuser, attracting people of low character and alienating good, competent people. a bungler who hides behind an endless stack of chips and thinks he is a good poker player just because he can buy into every hand no matter how bad the cards.

if prokhorov had bought the knicks instead of dolan, who was handed the keys by his father, the knicks would not have become a laughingstock.

I hope this is just ignorance...A entirely self made oligarch ...Nice one...

ol·i·garch/ˈäliˌgärk/
Noun:
A ruler in an oligarchy.
(esp. in Russia) A very rich businessman with a great deal of political influence.

Doe-lan
Noun:
pudgy son of Charles. inherited power and money. fancies himself a successful man and blues singer. Drug, Isiah and booze addictions.

Right and in the frontier of the Post-Soviet era, Prokhorov got there on his own...

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:the nets owner was crushing adults at chess as a 6 year old boy. the dude has a superior intellect.

his maternal grandmother was a doctoral candidate.

he is entirely self made and utterly focussed on keeping his mind and body sharp and in shape.

the knicks owner is a spoiled brat of an heir who was born crossing home plate believing he has hit a home run.

he is entirely a product of circumstance and has been an alcoholic and drug abuser, attracting people of low character and alienating good, competent people. a bungler who hides behind an endless stack of chips and thinks he is a good poker player just because he can buy into every hand no matter how bad the cards.

if prokhorov had bought the knicks instead of dolan, who was handed the keys by his father, the knicks would not have become a laughingstock.

I hope this is just ignorance...A entirely self made oligarch ...Nice one...

ol·i·garch/ˈäliˌgärk/
Noun:
A ruler in an oligarchy.
(esp. in Russia) A very rich businessman with a great deal of political influence.

Doe-lan
Noun:
pudgy son of Charles. inherited power and money. fancies himself a successful man and blues singer. Drug, Isiah and booze addictions.

Right and in the frontier of the Post-Soviet era, Prokhorov got there on his own...

Yeah, he pretty much did. He survived both the gangsters and the gangster politicians where many before him ended up dead or in Jail. He cleaned up on the heels of the first wave of crooked men who grabbed state owned assets. The guy is part lucky (always helps), part suave, part brilliant, and very ambitious!

All great fortunes have a crime attached to it. Even microsoft! Nobody said the guy is not without fault or totally clean, but he is self made.

They guy looks like James Bond compared to Dolan, who looks like "Francis" the spoiled brat on "pee wee's big adventure"!

This is the problem with the knicks, they are owned but a totally inept dork. Homers, this is your man?

loweyecue wrote:I would much rather have Porkhorov than Dolan as the owner of the Knicks. The guy is passionate, flamboyant and over the top. Dolan is humongous pile of rat droppings. And don't tell me to go root for the Nets.

Not arguable.

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:I would much rather have Porkhorov than Dolan as the owner of the Knicks. The guy is passionate, flamboyant and over the top. Dolan is humongous pile of rat droppings. And don't tell me to go root for the Nets.

Not arguable.

Really??...Joe Johnson make more money than Melo...Mr. Kardashian makes 12 mil per, Bropez makes 15 per, more than Chandler, DWill makes 20 mil, Gerald Wallace makes 10 mil per...And I doubt Prok would have given up 70 mil for Lin, well he might have...Prok was going hard after Melo before DWill which I think was the right move and I wholehearted disagree with your call about DWill for many reasons..Nets might have a first round pick in 2017...But yeah, Prok would have been a great owner..

The Nets are a bit different and need desperate measures since most players do not/did not have Jersey at the top of their list.

Also, getting DWil to resign without DH was a big coup.

I look at where the Nets are right now and compare that to where they were 3 years ago and I am impressed.

Comparing to NY is unfair.

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:I would much rather have Porkhorov than Dolan as the owner of the Knicks. The guy is passionate, flamboyant and over the top. Dolan is humongous pile of rat droppings. And don't tell me to go root for the Nets.

Not arguable.

Really??...Joe Johnson make more money than Melo...Mr. Kardashian makes 12 mil per, Bropez makes 15 per, more than Chandler, DWill makes 20 mil, Gerald Wallace makes 10 mil per...And I doubt Prok would have given up 70 mil for Lin, well he might have...Prok was going hard after Melo before DWill which I think was the right move and I wholehearted disagree with your call about DWill for many reasons..Nets might have a first round pick in 2017...But yeah, Prok would have been a great owner..

The Nets are a bit different and need desperate measures since most players do not/did not have Jersey at the top of their list.

Also, getting DWil to resign without DH was a big coup.

I look at where the Nets are right now and compare that to where they were 3 years ago and I am impressed.

Comparing to NY is unfair.

I totally disagree with your assessment on DWill...20 mil per for who is essentially a role player is a bit much..A very good role player at that...The way I see DWill is all the things he won't do for you as max player...He is not considered a full fledged scorer but can put up points...He isn't going to make all those around him better like a Chris Paul...He really isn't a leader...He isn't going to carry you in stretches like Melo did last year at the end of the season...He isn't really a go to guy when the game is on the line...He isn't a great defender for his size at his position...But what he is, is a solid ball player, max player, no...number 10 on ESPN list, wow...But a must get for the Nets if they want to sell seats in Knickland...So who is getting screwed here, Prov is overpaying..

The Knicks problem at the trade deadline last year wasn't PG...They had Felton or was getting Billups...They needed a second scorer...Gallo, Will, and Felton could only help to muster a .500 record...For me, a PG who can get you the ball where your scorer can score, knock down the open J, penetrate and play D when needed is exactly what we needed that's a lot cheaper than 20 per...Meaning Felton of early 2010...DWill is a good player but a max player is nuts and no way I would start a team with him ahead of Melo, but thats me the Melo lover...That has more to do with the position than the individual...You can get by with an adequate PG if you have two scorers on the front line who can get to the line...Nets are going to be interesting team...They spent their money on jump shooters who aren't leaders...Let's see how it pans out...I think it's starphucing 2.0 but the owner is now a God, so what do I know...

IrishKnickFan wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:I would much rather have Porkhorov than Dolan as the owner of the Knicks. The guy is passionate, flamboyant and over the top. Dolan is humongous pile of rat droppings. And don't tell me to go root for the Nets.

Not arguable.

Really??...Joe Johnson make more money than Melo...Mr. Kardashian makes 12 mil per, Bropez makes 15 per, more than Chandler, DWill makes 20 mil, Gerald Wallace makes 10 mil per...And I doubt Prok would have given up 70 mil for Lin, well he might have...Prok was going hard after Melo before DWill which I think was the right move and I wholehearted disagree with your call about DWill for many reasons..Nets might have a first round pick in 2017...But yeah, Prok would have been a great owner..

The Nets are a bit different and need desperate measures since most players do not/did not have Jersey at the top of their list.

Also, getting DWil to resign without DH was a big coup.

I look at where the Nets are right now and compare that to where they were 3 years ago and I am impressed.

Comparing to NY is unfair.

I totally disagree with your assessment on DWill...20 mil per for who is essentially a role player is a bit much..A very good role player at that...The way I see DWill is all the things he won't do for you as max player...He is not considered a full fledged scorer but can put up points...He isn't going to make all those around him better like a Chris Paul...He really isn't a leader...He isn't going to carry you in stretches like Melo did last year at the end of the season...He isn't really a go to guy when the game is on the line...He isn't a great defender for his size at his position...But what he is, is a solid ball player, max player, no...number 10 on ESPN list, wow...But a must get for the Nets if they want to sell seats in Knickland...So who is getting screwed here, Prov is overpaying..

The Knicks problem at the trade deadline last year wasn't PG...They had Felton or was getting Billups...They needed a second scorer...Gallo, Will, and Felton could only help to muster a .500 record...For me, a PG who can get you the ball where your scorer can score, knock down the open J, penetrate and play D when needed is exactly what we needed that's a lot cheaper than 20 per...Meaning Felton of early 2010...DWill is a good player but a max player is nuts and no way I would start a team with him ahead of Melo, but thats me the Melo lover...That has more to do with the position than the individual...You can get by with an adequate PG if you have two scorers on the front line who can get to the line...Nets are going to be interesting team...They spent their money on jump shooters who aren't leaders...Let's see how it pans out...I think it's starphucing 2.0 but the owner is now a God, so what do I know...

Well to be honest the biggest problem with the trade for us was that we lost a lot of depth at the time. However now we do have a lot of depth. In regards to D-Will he is not a role player he is a top pg. Now i dont like d-will but i have to give him credit.

U can be a top PG and be a role player which is exactly what DWill is...What does DWill do that stands out...What do u get out of him night in and night out???..As to how much depth we lost, we were a .500 team with that depth, a .500 team, changes had to be made...

IrishKnickFan wrote:

holfresh wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:I would much rather have Porkhorov than Dolan as the owner of the Knicks. The guy is passionate, flamboyant and over the top. Dolan is humongous pile of rat droppings. And don't tell me to go root for the Nets.

Not arguable.

Really??...Joe Johnson make more money than Melo...Mr. Kardashian makes 12 mil per, Bropez makes 15 per, more than Chandler, DWill makes 20 mil, Gerald Wallace makes 10 mil per...And I doubt Prok would have given up 70 mil for Lin, well he might have...Prok was going hard after Melo before DWill which I think was the right move and I wholehearted disagree with your call about DWill for many reasons..Nets might have a first round pick in 2017...But yeah, Prok would have been a great owner..

The Nets are a bit different and need desperate measures since most players do not/did not have Jersey at the top of their list.

Also, getting DWil to resign without DH was a big coup.

I look at where the Nets are right now and compare that to where they were 3 years ago and I am impressed.

Comparing to NY is unfair.

I totally disagree with your assessment on DWill...20 mil per for who is essentially a role player is a bit much..A very good role player at that...The way I see DWill is all the things he won't do for you as max player...He is not considered a full fledged scorer but can put up points...He isn't going to make all those around him better like a Chris Paul...He really isn't a leader...He isn't going to carry you in stretches like Melo did last year at the end of the season...He isn't really a go to guy when the game is on the line...He isn't a great defender for his size at his position...But what he is, is a solid ball player, max player, no...number 10 on ESPN list, wow...But a must get for the Nets if they want to sell seats in Knickland...So who is getting screwed here, Prov is overpaying..

The Knicks problem at the trade deadline last year wasn't PG...They had Felton or was getting Billups...They needed a second scorer...Gallo, Will, and Felton could only help to muster a .500 record...For me, a PG who can get you the ball where your scorer can score, knock down the open J, penetrate and play D when needed is exactly what we needed that's a lot cheaper than 20 per...Meaning Felton of early 2010...DWill is a good player but a max player is nuts and no way I would start a team with him ahead of Melo, but thats me the Melo lover...That has more to do with the position than the individual...You can get by with an adequate PG if you have two scorers on the front line who can get to the line...Nets are going to be interesting team...They spent their money on jump shooters who aren't leaders...Let's see how it pans out...I think it's starphucing 2.0 but the owner is now a God, so what do I know...

Well to be honest the biggest problem with the trade for us was that we lost a lot of depth at the time. However now we do have a lot of depth. In regards to D-Will he is not a role player he is a top pg. Now i dont like d-will but i have to give him credit.

U can be a top PG and be a role player which is exactly what DWill is...What does DWill do that stands out...What do u get out of him night in and night out???..As to how much depth we lost, we were a .500 team with that depth, a .500 team, changes had to be made...

Relax Holfresh im not bashing the melo trade i know you get upset if you think someone is hating on Melo. I actually like our team and I feel this is the best Knicks team since 2000. In regards to the nets i think people are overrating them. I never said D-Will is the best player i just said that he is a very good point guard in this league

We are talking about DWill right??..I know u like to get your Melo dig in there, cause I love Melo...So tell me, what does DWill give you as a top player???...Does he carry your team??..Is he a leader??..Does he make everyone better??Does he have big game presence??? What??

Bonn1997 wrote:I think the Nets have the most overrated team in the league right now.

+100000000000000000000

The most overrated 20-something win team in the history of the league, actually.

Shhhhhhhhhh, listen? You can hear the Dolan/Melo haters trying to dig up attractive pics of the N*yets dancer hos!

All this "my owner is suave and hip and your owner is a fat doofus" makes sooooooooo much more sense than any other line of discussion I've ever read on this board. Very enlightening. Keep it up fellas.

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I think the Nets have the most overrated team in the league right now.

+100000000000000000000

The most overrated 20-something win team in the history of the league, actually.

Shhhhhhhhhh, listen? You can hear the Dolan/Melo haters trying to dig up attractive pics of the N*yets dancer hos!

All this "my owner is suave and hip and your owner is a fat doofus" makes sooooooooo much more sense than any other line of discussion I've ever read on this board. Very enlightening. Keep it up fellas.

i think he played dolan pretty bad, doing a bait and switch to get dolan to bite on anthony and overpay while he got the point guard the knicks could have actually used-- williams-- to play with stoudemire. if anything it was an act of attrition... you know, the kind of move a savvy chess player would make in the short run in order to take advantage of a rival in the longer run.

the nets roster is not the most convincing but the knicks roster looks like a mess right now.

Right and Joe Johnson make more than Melo...DWill who isn't a max player making 20 mil...DWill isn't a leader, can't carry you in stretches like Melo did last year towards the end of the season, Doesn't make player around him better, not a great defender for his size, Isn't a floor general like Paul...I'm dumbfounded by the hoopla over DWill...Prok is winning a chess match huh...He is paying Gerald Wallace 10 mil the next 4 year and paying Bopez 15 per who isn't better than Chandler at 13 mil per...