mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Is STAT better than Bosh?

You joking?..Injuries aside, who is better?

Well injuries are not aside, and Bosh is a far far better defender.

If I were to sign one of them for one year, next year, at the max - I sign Bosh in a heartbeat. And, Bosh's jumper was deadly in the playoffs. Stats is in witness protection.

Well yeah, Of course..If a player is injured it's a no brainer...I'll take Tony Douglas over Scotty Pippen, Next Year...But what Amare brings is muvh more than that..U might have forgotten, Amare was a beast when he broke into the league, he imposed his physical will on vets...Amare leads, Bosh Spice follows...

Amare was - Amare was. Amare isn't that Amare. Again, I do not dispute that he "was".

If you could do it all over again, would you have signed him to the max? If you answer yes then you (and the other Amare homers) are alone. Walsh/The Knicks I am sure realize that it was a mistake. He gave us one good half out of a five year contract and 2 big playoff no shows.

Can he prove everyone who would not take a chance on him, which is everyone other than the knicks wrong? Of course he can - lets see how it plays out.

I never wanted to sign Amare to that number...It was just two guys here railing against the signing of Amare...Myself and Killa...For kicks, I'll find our many post against the signing...Amare showed me something tho..He led once he got here..He showed me he wants to win unlike most of the guys who we starphucked and brought here...He was all alone..I respect that, so on that alone, I think he is coming back and has lots to prove...I really hope Melo trust the guy and adopts what he sees from Bron and orchestrates with Felton...Big year for those guys... I wish we had Riley as our coach so he can sell those guys it's on us against the world..Because no one believes, not even Knick fans who live through the dark years...Dudes are hedging and talking about the Nets...This is the year...Gallo is yapping, Marbs is yapping, Barkley is yapping, Karl is yapping, Phil Jax is yapping,Lovers on this board are yapping, yet u hear nothing from our guys..I love it... Can't wait for Lin and Lando to chime in...Too much variables to call it but Melo has to change, Amare has to change, Felton has to step up...They know it, is my bet...I'm so pumped I'm working out for the season getting in shape...Can't f**king wait!!!!!!!!!!!

CashMoney wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:To me Amare is more of a 'winner' than Bosh (despite Bosh's titles).

The Heat don't win their TITLE without Bosh. And, when he was hurt, they did not look too good.

Not saying much when he's 1 of 3 players that can actually ball.

So for a one year contract (next year), you would take Amare over Bosh?

Yes without a 2nd thought. Amare, had a bad year last year, no disputing that but STAT is the better player of the two.

Amare is going to have a great season..... no doubt in my mind.

People foget just how good of a player Amare is. He has holes but who doesn't?

A healthy Amare = Best PF in the league.

Its all about his health. A healthy Amare is a (offensive) stud.

There is a reason for the leagues pessimism including PHX and their great medical staff. And, its not a dig at Amare, its his body which he does not necessarily control. If it gives out - no one will blame him (personally).

Amare (first half of 2010-2011) vs Bosh is a no brainer. Is that the Amare you expect to see? If yes, for the whole season? I don't think he will/can hold up based on what I have seen. But heck - what the phuck do I know - I am just a NY Kvetch.

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Is STAT better than Bosh?

You joking?..Injuries aside, who is better?

Well injuries are not aside, and Bosh is a far far better defender.

If I were to sign one of them for one year, next year, at the max - I sign Bosh in a heartbeat. And, Bosh's jumper was deadly in the playoffs. Stats is in witness protection.

bosh is playing with 2 excellent slashing guards that open up everything for it's supporting players..So bosh's shots are not rush and are in rythem..

Amare was damn near coming off of screens like a guard, rearly ever got the ball in rythem, and quite frankly wasn't all that healthy, but we already know that..

The issue I'm having, who was going to follow bosh here, certainly not Melo, certainly not chris paul, certainly not Tyson chandler..

You think Joe's $120 mill contract is more attractive then Amare's $100 mill uninsured contract, Joe's an absolute roll player making superstar bread..yet he was traded.

You think bosh could handle NY like Amare, for god sake this guy was sobbing OUT OF CONTROL in the locker room after a loss of a regular season game..The media would have had a frenzy..

Is that the kind of leader you really prefer

VCoug wrote:It's not just one bad season, he's been bad since the 14-1 run ended his first year here. That whole year, until the Melo trade, MDA ran Amare into the ground to the point that he was playing well into the 4th quarter during blowouts. I think there's a reasonable chance that Amare will never be the same player he was.

He has had a maturity beyond his years dealing with his mother and now his brother and has been a true professional since he was 18. This is a dude that despite many off court problems has bought his game. No off court antics or on court meltdowns.

I am a fan of his professonalism. He has flaws in his game but I am not measuring his contract, just Amare! Blatch should have signed with the knicks just to hang out with this guy and learn.

NUPE wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Is STAT better than Bosh?

You joking?..Injuries aside, who is better?

Well injuries are not aside, and Bosh is a far far better defender.

If I were to sign one of them for one year, next year, at the max - I sign Bosh in a heartbeat. And, Bosh's jumper was deadly in the playoffs. Stats is in witness protection.

LoL, this is hilariously absurd on so many levels.

People kill Melo for losing in the First Round.

People kill Amar'e even though he got past the first round numerous time.

People hype Bosh even though he never got out of the first round and routinely missed the playoffs prior to being carried by Wade and LeBron.

My point is most people just have no real perspective. If Bosh were in NY you kids would be killing him, calling him soft and screaming his defense sucks. Bosh is an average defender at best.

i TAKE amare over bosh 100 times out of 10.....

Nalod wrote:
Lets be real, Bosh is the better player right now but in light of that realistic fact and the bling he has I am a fan of Amare and prefer his game. Anyone that has seen Amare in person on a good nite understands the electric nature of his game and gravitiy defying moves. He is an amazing athlete who with his new allience working with Hakeem I hope is adding more fundamentals to his game to proling his effectiveness.

He has had a maturity beyond his years dealing with his mother and now his brother and has been a true professional since he was 18. This is a dude that despite many off court problems has bought his game. No off court antics or on court meltdowns.

I am a fan of his professonalism. He has flaws in his game but I am not measuring his contract, just Amare! Blatch should have signed with the knicks just to hang out with this guy and learn.

I was a fan of amare since his HS days, I remember back in the early days on realgm, i was screaming for the knicks to draft this kid.. I am rooting for him, as I feel he is the key to our success and the team should be focused around him.. having him change his game to me, was absolutely ridiculous.. nothing wrong with adding a few moves, but amare is amare... pick and roll is his game...

I keep hearing we should let melo be melo.. why? when amare has been amare, the past shows his teams have had more success......

Blatch should have signed with the knicks just to hang out with this guy and learn.

great point nalod.. but just don't let amare take him clothes shopping.. lol

3G4G wrote:Once again I look at the whole scope of a player's game including how they impact team scheme. Last year if I'm not mistaken the Heat had a 10-1 stretch without Wade and Bosh's numbers were filthy during that time.

Look Amar'e has beasted on all of Duncan/Pau/Dirk in the playoffs but ask yourself why is it you take each one of them over Amar'e and quite honestly Bosh probably fits the same bill. It's how those other guys play/operate within the scheme of what the team does. Amar'e may be the better INDIVIDUAL player, but I'm not quite sure he's the better TEAM player.

It's very similar to arguing Melo in comparison to Paul Pierce/Joe Johnson/Brandon Roy....give me the more SYNERGETIC players, no matter what stats or name recognition says.

oh, I agree with you in theory here...100%, but in this case, even with bosh most likely being a better "team" player.. I think that talent wise, amare is just that much better where it makes up that gap.... duncan, pau, dirk, all are elite talents, and great team guys... bosh is a good team player with good talent.. not great..... amare when healthy is close to a great talent, but does lack in other areas as you mention..