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DurzoBlint
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9/14/2012  3:31 PM
To be honest, I never really saw any significant improvement from Howard....at least not nearly enough to proclaim Pat a good big man coach. Dwight really hasn't added much to his game imo
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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9/14/2012  4:59 PM
Glad to see he wasn't "insulted" by the offer to work with our guys...
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9/14/2012  5:00 PM
Definitely good news. Possibly the most versatile big man ever. This can only mean good things. Hope he stays and becomes a coach.
TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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9/14/2012  5:39 PM
Ewing seems to have this thing where he keeps making poor decisions. The decision to push for a trade. The refusal to accept a lower coaching position and build up his credentials. I just think he's missing something in his prideful attitude and hurting himself.

This thing with Hakeem is all about Woody and his use of his friends as his support system. This makes sense and I think he's really learned from his mistakes in the past and wants to make sure that he's doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to give this team a chance to succeed. I wasn't sure about Woody, but he's been making nothing but smart moves that make sense even if some don't like them. You have to respect that Woody has a vision for what he wants this team to be and he's executing that vision.

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9/14/2012  8:56 PM
nixluva wrote:This is all about WOODY!!! This guy is putting his imprint on this team. He's been doing nothing but great things since he got the job and in particular after the season ended. There's no negative in this at all. Yes the Ewing thing is odd, but that isn't Woody, but Dolan who has messed that up over the years. Woody is doing what he feels is right and this is one of the smartest things i've seen this franchise do in decades.

I was a bit disappointed when Tyson wasn't able to get with Hakeem but now that's all taken care of. This may not work, but you can't fault the effort. That's all you can ask is that your team does everything it can to increase it's chances of winning. From what i've seen this franchise is 100% on the same page and on the right track in terms of making smart decisions. At the very least you see some kind of direction and vision here. Woody used his great relationship with Hakeem to help convince him to leave his home and come to NY. That's a bold move and shows Woody wants his players to get better and learn from a WINNER! Just listening to Hakeem tells you he knows what he's talking about.


Agreed. As mush as some of us wanted the Knicks to talk to Phil Jackson, really cant complain about the job Woodson has done since MDA's departure. 18-6 to end the season despite injuries, and so far a stellar off season.....

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9/16/2012  8:01 AM
What Olajuwon said.

“It was something I wanted to do for Mike”

“Mike showed a flash toward the last part of the season of what he can do. You can tell he is comfortable making the right move to succeed.”

“When you work with a player for hours, days and weeks, you want to see them play. You want to see how quickly they improve and mature.”

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9/16/2012  10:45 AM
nixluva wrote:Ewing seems to have this thing where he keeps making poor decisions. The decision to push for a trade. The refusal to accept a lower coaching position and build up his credentials. I just think he's missing something in his prideful attitude and hurting himself.

This thing with Hakeem is all about Woody and his use of his friends as his support system. This makes sense and I think he's really learned from his mistakes in the past and wants to make sure that he's doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to give this team a chance to succeed. I wasn't sure about Woody, but he's been making nothing but smart moves that make sense even if some don't like them. You have to respect that Woody has a vision for what he wants this team to be and he's executing that vision.

Good post Nix.

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9/16/2012  2:11 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:Ewing seems to have this thing where he keeps making poor decisions. The decision to push for a trade. The refusal to accept a lower coaching position and build up his credentials. I just think he's missing something in his prideful attitude and hurting himself.

This thing with Hakeem is all about Woody and his use of his friends as his support system. This makes sense and I think he's really learned from his mistakes in the past and wants to make sure that he's doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to give this team a chance to succeed. I wasn't sure about Woody, but he's been making nothing but smart moves that make sense even if some don't like them. You have to respect that Woody has a vision for what he wants this team to be and he's executing that vision.

Good post Nix.

TO be honest my biggest knock on Woody was that he didn't seem to have a plan. No vision about the game and what he wanted to do. He scared me in the playoffs with his lack of ability to adjust, but now i'm thinking he was just in a bad situation and with time he's been able to more clearly figure out how he could structure things and how exactly he wants the team to play on BOTH ENDS.

Woody isn't too proud to solicit help and the help he's getting is first rate. He and Glen seem to be completely in sync and that is so key to a teams success. For SOOOOOOOO long this team has not had a completion of it's coaches vision. The MDA years were maddeningly insufficient in terms of the roster fitting with the coaches vision. This roster has been retooled and is shaped to fit even more with Woody and what he wants to do now. I fully expect the team to get off to a much better start than in previous years. The 82 game schedule will test the rosters older players, but hopefully they have so much depth that it won't effect them too negatively.

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9/16/2012  2:18 PM
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:Ewing seems to have this thing where he keeps making poor decisions. The decision to push for a trade. The refusal to accept a lower coaching position and build up his credentials. I just think he's missing something in his prideful attitude and hurting himself.

This thing with Hakeem is all about Woody and his use of his friends as his support system. This makes sense and I think he's really learned from his mistakes in the past and wants to make sure that he's doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to give this team a chance to succeed. I wasn't sure about Woody, but he's been making nothing but smart moves that make sense even if some don't like them. You have to respect that Woody has a vision for what he wants this team to be and he's executing that vision.

Good post Nix.

TO be honest my biggest knock on Woody was that he didn't seem to have a plan. No vision about the game and what he wanted to do. He scared me in the playoffs with his lack of ability to adjust, but now i'm thinking he was just in a bad situation and with time he's been able to more clearly figure out how he could structure things and how exactly he wants the team to play on BOTH ENDS.

Woody isn't too proud to solicit help and the help he's getting is first rate. He and Glen seem to be completely in sync and that is so key to a teams success. For SOOOOOOOO long this team has not had a completion of it's coaches vision. The MDA years were maddeningly insufficient in terms of the roster fitting with the coaches vision. This roster has been retooled and is shaped to fit even more with Woody and what he wants to do now. I fully expect the team to get off to a much better start than in previous years. The 82 game schedule will test the rosters older players, but hopefully they have so much depth that it won't effect them too negatively.

I appreciate your optimism, however, I need to see how Woody gets this team to blend. While I too love the offseason moves/extra work. I love that he communicates and has the respect of the team.

I need to be sold that he can run this offense.

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9/16/2012  4:00 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:Ewing seems to have this thing where he keeps making poor decisions. The decision to push for a trade. The refusal to accept a lower coaching position and build up his credentials. I just think he's missing something in his prideful attitude and hurting himself.

This thing with Hakeem is all about Woody and his use of his friends as his support system. This makes sense and I think he's really learned from his mistakes in the past and wants to make sure that he's doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to give this team a chance to succeed. I wasn't sure about Woody, but he's been making nothing but smart moves that make sense even if some don't like them. You have to respect that Woody has a vision for what he wants this team to be and he's executing that vision.

Good post Nix.

TO be honest my biggest knock on Woody was that he didn't seem to have a plan. No vision about the game and what he wanted to do. He scared me in the playoffs with his lack of ability to adjust, but now i'm thinking he was just in a bad situation and with time he's been able to more clearly figure out how he could structure things and how exactly he wants the team to play on BOTH ENDS.

Woody isn't too proud to solicit help and the help he's getting is first rate. He and Glen seem to be completely in sync and that is so key to a teams success. For SOOOOOOOO long this team has not had a completion of it's coaches vision. The MDA years were maddeningly insufficient in terms of the roster fitting with the coaches vision. This roster has been retooled and is shaped to fit even more with Woody and what he wants to do now. I fully expect the team to get off to a much better start than in previous years. The 82 game schedule will test the rosters older players, but hopefully they have so much depth that it won't effect them too negatively.

I appreciate your optimism, however, I need to see how Woody gets this team to blend. While I too love the offseason moves/extra work. I love that he communicates and has the respect of the team.

I need to be sold that he can run this offense.

OF course they have to actually execute what he's asking them to do. What I like is that Woody isn't just talking about how he wants them to go inside more. He's actively making sure that they have the kind of preparation to succeed and have confidence in playing in the post. If you think about it, he's looking to get some of that excellent inside/out play that Hakeem and the Rockets had.

If he's successful in improving STAT's post game along with Tyson and even Melo, that really opens up the offense to be a lot different than it was. Then you really increase the effectiveness of Felton and Kidd. You really give Novak more time to get his shots off. Nothing stretches a defense out more than having legit post offense. If STAT and TYson get down court and setup inside quickly that really helps to put pressure on defenses. IMO all Tyson needs is a solid jump hook and a little mix of pump fakes to draw fouls. It just makes the offense so much harder to defend when Tyson is a threat to look for his offense in the post. The you have single coverage on STAT and Melo. No matter who sits you ALWAYS have a serious post threat between Melo, STAT and Tyson. That's a very legit offensive attack.

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9/16/2012  9:11 PM
Right. Ewing just seems to think that everything is owed him for his time at the Knicks. When he was fading, the the ball still had to go through him. He needed a trade. He's too good to coach D -league. Like other have mentioned I've never seen that he has the leadership skills to be an average-above average coach and he doesn't really seem like the kind of person that will learn how or accept tutelage.
nixluva wrote:Ewing seems to have this thing where he keeps making poor decisions. The decision to push for a trade. The refusal to accept a lower coaching position and build up his credentials. I just think he's missing something in his prideful attitude and hurting himself.

This thing with Hakeem is all about Woody and his use of his friends as his support system. This makes sense and I think he's really learned from his mistakes in the past and wants to make sure that he's doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to give this team a chance to succeed. I wasn't sure about Woody, but he's been making nothing but smart moves that make sense even if some don't like them. You have to respect that Woody has a vision for what he wants this team to be and he's executing that vision.

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9/16/2012  9:44 PM
Really love this. I know he's well-respected around the league, but I sometimes feel like Hakeem might be one of the more underrated--or at least under-talked-about--all time greats.

We talk about how Dwight and Lebron are athletic freaks, but Hakeem, to me, has them both beat. A legit seven-footer that moved like a two-guard.

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9/17/2012  12:33 AM
Gymkata wrote:Really love this. I know he's well-respected around the league, but I sometimes feel like Hakeem might be one of the more underrated--or at least under-talked-about--all time greats.

We talk about how Dwight and Lebron are athletic freaks, but Hakeem, to me, has them both beat. A legit seven-footer that moved like a two-guard.


you do understand that he will not be playing right? LOL.... JK.. but you make it sound like he will be playing center for us....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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9/17/2012  7:33 AM
Gymkata wrote:Really love this. I know he's well-respected around the league, but I sometimes feel like Hakeem might be one of the more underrated--or at least under-talked-about--all time greats.

We talk about how Dwight and Lebron are athletic freaks, but Hakeem, to me, has them both beat. A legit seven-footer that moved like a two-guard.

Hakeem was 6'10"...I would venture to say he might have been a touch under that....

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9/17/2012  7:37 AM
I hope this doesn't change Melo's game...It could help Melo because he has a first quick step but Melo is a physical player who gets fouled a lot in the post...Dream was more of a finesse player...
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9/17/2012  7:44 AM
to change is to grow

holfresh - Carmelo Anthony can only benefit from having his running buddies elevate their inside games. If he adds another wrinkle, that is only one more thing for a defender to be concerned about.

Melo's Olympics experience is another huge plus in The Answer Man's Book Of Love. Can we give extra credit to a player who stays extra sharp in the off season?

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9/17/2012  8:07 AM
misterearl wrote:to change is to grow

holfresh - Carmelo Anthony can only benefit from having his running buddies elevate their inside games. If he adds another wrinkle, that is only one more thing for a defender to be concerned about.

Melo's Olympics experience is another huge plus in The Answer Man's Book Of Love. Can we give extra credit to a player who stays extra sharp in the off season?

I hear ya but doesn't always work out that way...Tiger Woods changed his swing how many times?..

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9/17/2012  12:13 PM
Don't know if anyone posted a link to this story yet, but it's making me more and more comfortable with Woodson and getting me even more excited for the start of camp and the season. Can't wait....

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/sports/basketball/how-hakeem-olajuwon-became-invested-in-the-knicks.html?_r=1&smid=tw-share

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9/17/2012  12:51 PM
misterearl wrote:to change is to grow

holfresh - Carmelo Anthony can only benefit from having his running buddies elevate their inside games. If he adds another wrinkle, that is only one more thing for a defender to be concerned about.

Melo's Olympics experience is another huge plus in The Answer Man's Book Of Love. Can we give extra credit to a player who stays extra sharp in the off season?

He's certainly owed some extra credit after all the extra demerits he's earned around here...

I cannot wait for camp to start! Bring on the first exhibition Game Thread already!!!

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9/17/2012  2:01 PM
There can be no downside to players working to improve their games. If a guy like Jared Jeffries can make small improvements and at least gain the confidence to take shots, then really anyone should be able to make improvements and gain some confidence. STAT and Melo already have loads of talent and skill, so any additions will only help to add some new wrinkles and keeps defenders guessing. Tyson has the least comfort with his offense but I actually think he's only lacking confidence and if he ever gets to the point where he plays offense without fear of failure, he's going to really be able to contribute more on the offensive end.

I can't imagine a better tutor than Hakeem!!! Just watching the workout videos you can tell that he's very detail oriented and is teaching not only the moves but the thought process behind the moves. That has more impact than just memorizing footwork. The more time he spends with our players the more they'll get to learn his mind on how to play BB. IMO that's a huge plus for this team. We've got a lot of talent and it's still possible to get more out of that talent.

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