arkrud wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:This berman article has no merit, gimme a break, everytime IT gets within spitting range of Dolan, berman rights a article claiming IT is being considered for some position..

You know if berman has a hate(curry Isiah) or a liking( steph, MDA) of anybody, he's going to write a trumped up story to sway it one way or the other, its never the FACTS

I think Beramn artical is pretty neutral. Just stating the facts.
There are 10th of articles about the matter which are more harash that his.
The fact that the meeting was made public news by Doaln is a statement about him being the only one to have a say about wnat Knicks organization will do.
No more liberal smoke screens with Walsh, D'antony and such... Time to get back to business as usual.

I think all of the articles written about this situation site Berman or the Post as their source. Berman has his hot topics, Isiah, Marbs, Curry etc. so speculation about the reporting is fair in my opinion.

nixluva wrote:

biglove44 wrote:the snake NEVER left. He'll just have an official title now. i'm coming home, i'm coming home, tell the world i'm coming home.

YUP! Isiah was always working with Dolan. Dolan never liked Stern telling him what to do and he quickly rectified things starting with Walsh. IMO none of this matters. If u like this team you have Isiah to thank for this in part cuz he's Dolan's real GM!!!

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

biglove44 wrote:the snake NEVER left. He'll just have an official title now. i'm coming home, i'm coming home, tell the world i'm coming home.

YUP! Isiah was always working with Dolan. Dolan never liked Stern telling him what to do and he quickly rectified things starting with Walsh. IMO none of this matters. If u like this team you have Isiah to thank for this in part cuz he's Dolan's real GM!!!

I don't know if he is Dolan's real gm. I think that is selling Grunwald short. I agree that he has always had a lot of influence and I also agree about Dolan's reaction to Stern. I think Walsh is gone at least partially because Dolan was told to hire a more stable gm/exec to replace Thomas.

Shortly after Grunwald was hired by Isiah Thomas as assistant General Manager for the Toronto Raptors, he replaced the recently resigned General Manager after Thomas' majority ownership bid had failed.[2]

Glen is almost by default a follower of Isiah. He looks up to him and he knows Dolan views Isiah highly. There's no way Glen has a bigger voice than Isiah. Glen can present his ideas to Dolan but Dolan will bounce that off Isiah and if he says no Dolan won't approve it. Make no mistake Isiah has more power.

Now you have to ask why does Dolan want to keep Thomas around after his disaster tenure with Knicks? CAA!

Creative Artists Agency (CAA), the most influential representation in the NBA. Isiah has a good relationship with CAA and its power broker, William Wesley, whom Isiah used to convince Dolan to get involved in the chases for LeBron and Carmelo.

Look at Miami's big 3 of Lebron, Bosh, and wade. Guess who their agents are? All belong to CAA.

Why do you think JR Smith stayed in NY knowing he could get more else where (especially everyone expected him to opt out)? CAA.

Who did Woodson have to hire to get his coaching job? CAA.

It's sad that it has to come to a day when an agency has so much influence over every decision made by Knicks. Isiah only serves as go between. Whether you like it or not, this is what is happening to Knicks.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

biglove44 wrote:the snake NEVER left. He'll just have an official title now. i'm coming home, i'm coming home, tell the world i'm coming home.

YUP! Isiah was always working with Dolan. Dolan never liked Stern telling him what to do and he quickly rectified things starting with Walsh. IMO none of this matters. If u like this team you have Isiah to thank for this in part cuz he's Dolan's real GM!!!

I don't know if he is Dolan's real gm. I think that is selling Grunwald short. I agree that he has always had a lot of influence and I also agree about Dolan's reaction to Stern. I think Walsh is gone at least partially because Dolan was told to hire a more stable gm/exec to replace Thomas.

Shortly after Grunwald was hired by Isiah Thomas as assistant General Manager for the Toronto Raptors, he replaced the recently resigned General Manager after Thomas' majority ownership bid had failed.[2]

Glen is almost by default a follower of Isiah. He looks up to him and he knows Dolan views Isiah highly. There's no way Glen has a bigger voice than Isiah. Glen can present his ideas to Dolan but Dolan will bounce that off Isiah and if he says no Dolan won't approve it. Make no mistake Isiah has more power.

Really, how do you explain us getting Tyson?

Isiah hated that move, as it officially closed the door for CP3.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/isiah_move_for_tyson_no_knockout_VXZqYnFtH6h33VBnZlUFpO

Maybe this is a good sign.

Isiah Thomas, FIU coach and former Knicks president, finally spoke out on the club’s acquisition of center Tyson Chandler and did not sound enthused.

Conveniently appearing on the "Sid Rosenberg Show" on Miami radio yesterday following the Knicks’ 2-4 start, Thomas questioned Glen Grunwald’s acquisition of Chandler, which forced the team to cut Chauncey Billups to get under the salary cap.

Thomas said the NBA has become a guard’s league, and the Knicks cannot win solely with a star-powered frontcourt of Chandler, Amar’e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony. The Chandler commitment cost them a shot at point guard Chris Paul with next summer’s salary cap space, and Paul was subsequently dealt to the Clippers.

“The guard play right now in the NBA is off the charts,’’ Thomas said. “Losing Chauncey, I thought he brought a veteran leadership to the team. His savviness and guard play has always been severely undervalued. Detroit found that out when they let Chauncey go. I think there was a certain amount of leadership to what he brought to [the Knicks] last year.’’

Grunwald has an interim general manager tag, but Thomas is no longer considered to be in the running if Knicks owner James Dolan makes a move for a permanent GM this summer. Thomas defended Mike D’Antoni, saying it is tough to win with the guards the coach has.

“If you don’t have great guards, it’s hard to put together a game plan,’’ Thomas said. “You’re only as good a coach as your guards.’’

Thomas still is friends with Dolan, and was named a team consultant 17 months ago before declining the offer because David Stern felt it was a conflict of interest with his role at FIU. Dolan would not hire him as president, partly because he was disillusioned Thomas had openly campaigned for the job. However, Thomas is believed to be always offering up his services to Dolan informally.

During Chandler’s introductory press conference, Dolan conspicuously never mentioned Thomas’ name as in the past. Despite being hired by Thomas, Grunwald has not engaged Thomas much for basketball advice since taking over for Donnie Walsh.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/isiah_move_for_tyson_no_knockout_VXZqYnFtH6h33VBnZlUFpO#ixzz2607WJeuZ

mrKnickShot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

biglove44 wrote:the snake NEVER left. He'll just have an official title now. i'm coming home, i'm coming home, tell the world i'm coming home.

YUP! Isiah was always working with Dolan. Dolan never liked Stern telling him what to do and he quickly rectified things starting with Walsh. IMO none of this matters. If u like this team you have Isiah to thank for this in part cuz he's Dolan's real GM!!!

I don't know if he is Dolan's real gm. I think that is selling Grunwald short. I agree that he has always had a lot of influence and I also agree about Dolan's reaction to Stern. I think Walsh is gone at least partially because Dolan was told to hire a more stable gm/exec to replace Thomas.

Shortly after Grunwald was hired by Isiah Thomas as assistant General Manager for the Toronto Raptors, he replaced the recently resigned General Manager after Thomas' majority ownership bid had failed.[2]

Glen is almost by default a follower of Isiah. He looks up to him and he knows Dolan views Isiah highly. There's no way Glen has a bigger voice than Isiah. Glen can present his ideas to Dolan but Dolan will bounce that off Isiah and if he says no Dolan won't approve it. Make no mistake Isiah has more power.

Really, how do you explain us getting Tyson?

Isiah hated that move, as it officially closed the door for CP3.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/isiah_move_for_tyson_no_knockout_VXZqYnFtH6h33VBnZlUFpO

Maybe this is a good sign.

Isiah Thomas, FIU coach and former Knicks president, finally spoke out on the club’s acquisition of center Tyson Chandler and did not sound enthused.

Conveniently appearing on the "Sid Rosenberg Show" on Miami radio yesterday following the Knicks’ 2-4 start, Thomas questioned Glen Grunwald’s acquisition of Chandler, which forced the team to cut Chauncey Billups to get under the salary cap.

Thomas said the NBA has become a guard’s league, and the Knicks cannot win solely with a star-powered frontcourt of Chandler, Amar’e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony. The Chandler commitment cost them a shot at point guard Chris Paul with next summer’s salary cap space, and Paul was subsequently dealt to the Clippers.

“The guard play right now in the NBA is off the charts,’’ Thomas said. “Losing Chauncey, I thought he brought a veteran leadership to the team. His savviness and guard play has always been severely undervalued. Detroit found that out when they let Chauncey go. I think there was a certain amount of leadership to what he brought to [the Knicks] last year.’’

Grunwald has an interim general manager tag, but Thomas is no longer considered to be in the running if Knicks owner James Dolan makes a move for a permanent GM this summer. Thomas defended Mike D’Antoni, saying it is tough to win with the guards the coach has.

“If you don’t have great guards, it’s hard to put together a game plan,’’ Thomas said. “You’re only as good a coach as your guards.’’

Thomas still is friends with Dolan, and was named a team consultant 17 months ago before declining the offer because David Stern felt it was a conflict of interest with his role at FIU. Dolan would not hire him as president, partly because he was disillusioned Thomas had openly campaigned for the job. However, Thomas is believed to be always offering up his services to Dolan informally.

During Chandler’s introductory press conference, Dolan conspicuously never mentioned Thomas’ name as in the past. Despite being hired by Thomas, Grunwald has not engaged Thomas much for basketball advice since taking over for Donnie Walsh.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/isiah_move_for_tyson_no_knockout_VXZqYnFtH6h33VBnZlUFpO#ixzz2607WJeuZ

Like it or not. Isiah had a good point / argument.

I'd love to here the justification of keeping an old pg, who eventually went down in injury to a guy who just came off a championship and won DPOY later.

Isiah was pissed we couldn't get chris paul, and that was all.

mrKnickShot wrote:The point is, and I have said this in many of my posts, Chris Paul makes a bigger difference to this team than Tyson. This IS a guards league and as great as Tyson is/was, I don't think he makes the difference on this team as much as cp would.

Not amnestying CB would have saved us the Amnesty, Tysons contract, and possibly Amare's (if he has a bad year).

Ben Walace was a better player than Tyson but does that make him better than cp3?

And, lets not forget that we went into last season with Tony Fukkin Douglass as our starter last year? How were we suppose to win with that.

Ben Wallace was a huge reason for the success of the pistons, that should never be questioned.

You sound just like Isiah, go get the name player, screw building an actual team.

Is Chris Paul talented? yes, but he aint won shyt with all his talent, and still won't.

But as far as Isiah's comment, and your thinking, you don't need a Chris Paul to win, it's been proven over the last 20+ years.

And so what about the amnesty? All you're doing is saving cap space that isn't even there.

Besides, Melo and CP3 would have been over 35 mil in payroll, what do you do to field the team with the other 13 spots and 20 mil, and that's assuming you get the Hornets to agree to a trade featuring Chauncey.