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I would't be suprised if Melo might jump ship and play with a team like LeBron, Kobe. They called LeBron a chocker now a winner
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Bonn1997
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8/5/2012  7:00 PM
People mention it but there's not much to discuss. He was a slow, old man last year who couldn't play well on the one end of the court he did earlier in his career.
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8/5/2012  8:29 PM
Why would Melo jump ship if he only cares about money and scoring? Doesn't he own the Knicks. I mean he makes all the moves right? So why leave his kingdom?
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8/5/2012  9:05 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
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IrishKnickFan wrote:
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arkrud wrote:Melo is a Star player. He can score the basketball. He can dominate offense and can play multiple positions.
He can defend and can rebound. He may even pass the ball once in a blue moon and can handle the ball but he hate it.
Melo want to finish, want to shine, want to take it easy, to be cool.
Will he be a leader, will he sacrifice his game, will he make other players better, will he concentrate on team and on winning?
Debates are over. We'll see it soon. The moment of truth is coming starting November.
i agree this year is a big year for him especially since lebron has finally won his ring. I'd say he at least had to bring us to the ECF for this year to be considered a good one

So if the Knicks lose to a better seed and a team that has more talent like the Heat, in the semi's, would you still consider the season to be a failure?

if we meet the heat in the semi's and it goes 7 games or its a close series i wouldnt be mad but the goal is to win a championship

Winning a 'Chip is our goal and the goal of 29 other teams. Only 1 can win it which makes it extremely elusive and difficult.

Nah really haha. Listen you seem to think im bashing melo but actually i've been defedning him. However i do feel taht he does have a lot to prove since his playoff history is not good. I have said 1000 times that its not just melo but amare also need to have a good year as well as tyson and felton.

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Listen Melo can't win it by himself. He need 2 more stars playing with him. Right now he don't have another star almost equal to him and with out that he can't win it all. With what we have now we can't compete and beat the Heat in a 7 game series. We may win 2 games but thats it until we get a CP3. I like Chandlers defense but he is not a Bosh on offense. And who can be equal to D Wade?? The Knicks still have a lot of work to do lets face it.

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8/5/2012  10:16 PM
callmened wrote:I agree with irish...i find amazing that no one mentions how amare isnt playing welll...hes just as overpaid as melo to

+1,000,000

At least Melo has actually been on the floor for all our playoff games the last two years.

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8/5/2012  11:35 PM
callmened wrote:I agree with irish...i find amazing that no one mentions how amare isnt playing welll...hes just as overpaid as melo to

Who is this Amare person you speak of?

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8/6/2012  2:25 AM
You can bash STAT all you want for the last 2 seasons poor playoffs, but for his career STAT has been a very good playoff performer. STAT has a lot to make up for this year and I think he'll be up for the challenge.

GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Melo 54 54 38.9 8.6-20.4 .419 1.0-3.2 .327 6.8-8.3 .815 2.5 4.9 7.4 3.0 0.4 1.3 3.8 3.0 24.9
Amare 60 60 36.8 8.2-15.9 .516 0.1-0.3 .200 6.5-8.8 .745 3.1 5.8 8.9 1.0 1.6 1.0 3.8 2.7 22.9

STAT needs to get the ball more in this offense. He's been a more efficient scorer over his career and if given the ball regularly he can dominate. The only issue has been staying free of injury and the lack of good PG play. The back was a major issue, but he was able to come back from it and looked healthy. I don't count the hand thing as it was a freak accident.

If both players have a big year, this team is gonna go far. Now with a roster full of good PG's that may just happen. Both players can be more effective with PG's that are looking for them all the time.

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8/6/2012  2:31 AM
nixluva wrote:You can bash STAT all you want for the last 2 seasons poor playoffs, but for his career STAT has been a very good playoff performer. STAT has a lot to make up for this year and I think he'll be up for the challenge.

GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Melo 54 54 38.9 8.6-20.4 .419 1.0-3.2 .327 6.8-8.3 .815 2.5 4.9 7.4 3.0 0.4 1.3 3.8 3.0 24.9
Amare 60 60 36.8 8.2-15.9 .516 0.1-0.3 .200 6.5-8.8 .745 3.1 5.8 8.9 1.0 1.6 1.0 3.8 2.7 22.9

STAT needs to get the ball more in this offense. He's been a more efficient scorer over his career and if given the ball regularly he can dominate. The only issue has been staying free of injury and the lack of good PG play. The back was a major issue, but he was able to come back from it and looked healthy. I don't count the hand thing as it was a freak accident.

If both players have a big year, this team is gonna go far. Now with a roster full of good PG's that may just happen. Both players can be more effective with PG's that are looking for them all the time.

Wow! I did not realize that Amare's assist -> TO ratio was that bad -OUCH!

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8/6/2012  5:55 AM
Kidd and Felton are going to get Amare a lot more easy looks then he got last season. Amare though needs to find his jumper again, put more focus on rebounding, and hopefully develop a little post game.
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8/6/2012  9:56 AM
Nalod wrote:This will really be his first full season with the club.

When you earn 19mil a year, isn't EVERY year a BIG year?

Please tell this to Eddy Curry.

mrKnickShot wrote:
callmened wrote:I agree with irish...i find amazing that no one mentions how amare isnt playing welll...hes just as overpaid as melo to

Who is this Amare person you speak of?

Melo hate has now broken loose from it's containment. It's now spreading to the rest of the team. Please head for the forum exits in an orderly fashion and head for the nearest link to the ultimateNyets site. Your patient cooperation is appreciated. Don't forget to click the ad links there as well, as UK may still be able to retrieve some income from Broolyn love. <------this last comment is not sarcasm, martin.

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8/6/2012  10:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/6/2012  10:40 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:You can bash STAT all you want for the last 2 seasons poor playoffs, but for his career STAT has been a very good playoff performer. STAT has a lot to make up for this year and I think he'll be up for the challenge.

GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Melo 54 54 38.9 8.6-20.4 .419 1.0-3.2 .327 6.8-8.3 .815 2.5 4.9 7.4 3.0 0.4 1.3 3.8 3.0 24.9
Amare 60 60 36.8 8.2-15.9 .516 0.1-0.3 .200 6.5-8.8 .745 3.1 5.8 8.9 1.0 1.6 1.0 3.8 2.7 22.9

STAT needs to get the ball more in this offense. He's been a more efficient scorer over his career and if given the ball regularly he can dominate. The only issue has been staying free of injury and the lack of good PG play. The back was a major issue, but he was able to come back from it and looked healthy. I don't count the hand thing as it was a freak accident.

If both players have a big year, this team is gonna go far. Now with a roster full of good PG's that may just happen. Both players can be more effective with PG's that are looking for them all the time.

Wow! I did not realize that Amare's assist -> TO ratio was that bad -OUCH!


Our top 2 offensive players have slightly below average (Melo) and way below average (Amare) assist:turnover ratios. I'm not aware of any championship teams in the league's history where the same could be said. It was predictable and predicted that both would bring out the worst in each other.
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8/6/2012  11:39 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:You can bash STAT all you want for the last 2 seasons poor playoffs, but for his career STAT has been a very good playoff performer. STAT has a lot to make up for this year and I think he'll be up for the challenge.

GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Melo 54 54 38.9 8.6-20.4 .419 1.0-3.2 .327 6.8-8.3 .815 2.5 4.9 7.4 3.0 0.4 1.3 3.8 3.0 24.9
Amare 60 60 36.8 8.2-15.9 .516 0.1-0.3 .200 6.5-8.8 .745 3.1 5.8 8.9 1.0 1.6 1.0 3.8 2.7 22.9

STAT needs to get the ball more in this offense. He's been a more efficient scorer over his career and if given the ball regularly he can dominate. The only issue has been staying free of injury and the lack of good PG play. The back was a major issue, but he was able to come back from it and looked healthy. I don't count the hand thing as it was a freak accident.

If both players have a big year, this team is gonna go far. Now with a roster full of good PG's that may just happen. Both players can be more effective with PG's that are looking for them all the time.

Wow! I did not realize that Amare's assist -> TO ratio was that bad -OUCH!


Our top 2 offensive players have slightly below average (Melo) and way below average (Amare) assist:turnover ratios. I'm not aware of any championship teams in the league's history where the same could be said. It was predictable and predicted that both would bring out the worst in each other.

They both are finishers. Both can take over the game offensively.
But are inconsistent performers. God weapons but need master coach to make proper use of them.
STAT get lucky to get one coach who used him properly. Melo was not so lucky.
Not sure if Woody is this master - his offensive coaching is atrocious.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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8/6/2012  2:36 PM
always cracks me up... Melo lovers love to bash Amare, Chandler's lack of offense, MDA, Lin, George Karl and small children running lemonaid stands. Anything to take focus from Melo's actual accomplishments in the NBA so lets shirt to the excuses as to why that list is so short.

In 50+ playoff games he's a .419 shooter and owns the worst winning % of any player in the league.

But this is the year we have put the pieces around him to succeed. So go succeed. This is as close to the Nugs team that went to the WCF with Melo as you can get. If surrounding Melo with a roster of old gritty 35+ somethings is the key to bringing a title to NY so be it. Chime in motivational music... Here we go!

Let talk and more wins would be nice, but its a loooooong offsseason.

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8/6/2012  2:48 PM
nixluva wrote:You can bash STAT all you want for the last 2 seasons poor playoffs, but for his career STAT has been a very good playoff performer. STAT has a lot to make up for this year and I think he'll be up for the challenge.

GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Melo 54 54 38.9 8.6-20.4 .419 1.0-3.2 .327 6.8-8.3 .815 2.5 4.9 7.4 3.0 0.4 1.3 3.8 3.0 24.9
Amare 60 60 36.8 8.2-15.9 .516 0.1-0.3 .200 6.5-8.8 .745 3.1 5.8 8.9 1.0 1.6 1.0 3.8 2.7 22.9

STAT needs to get the ball more in this offense. He's been a more efficient scorer over his career and if given the ball regularly he can dominate. The only issue has been staying free of injury and the lack of good PG play. The back was a major issue, but he was able to come back from it and looked healthy. I don't count the hand thing as it was a freak accident.

If both players have a big year, this team is gonna go far. Now with a roster full of good PG's that may just happen. Both players can be more effective with PG's that are looking for them all the time.

Yea, all I can say is amare had a team with felton and a bunch of young guys and that team went 28-26.. In comes this loser malcontent and we lose a coach, amare's game and the best thing to happen to the knicks this decade.. jeremy lin...

this team has taken on the stinking, dirty, air of carmelo.... I am not sure how you are expecting both players to have a big year.. amare can't play with this dude.. at least with amare, we can look back as some sort of playoff success in his history.. with carmelo?

call me a hater? sure, I hate guys like carmelo... Loser mentality and the IQ if a JR smith.. I rather have those types of guys play elsewhere....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:You can bash STAT all you want for the last 2 seasons poor playoffs, but for his career STAT has been a very good playoff performer. STAT has a lot to make up for this year and I think he'll be up for the challenge.

GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Melo 54 54 38.9 8.6-20.4 .419 1.0-3.2 .327 6.8-8.3 .815 2.5 4.9 7.4 3.0 0.4 1.3 3.8 3.0 24.9
Amare 60 60 36.8 8.2-15.9 .516 0.1-0.3 .200 6.5-8.8 .745 3.1 5.8 8.9 1.0 1.6 1.0 3.8 2.7 22.9

STAT needs to get the ball more in this offense. He's been a more efficient scorer over his career and if given the ball regularly he can dominate. The only issue has been staying free of injury and the lack of good PG play. The back was a major issue, but he was able to come back from it and looked healthy. I don't count the hand thing as it was a freak accident.

If both players have a big year, this team is gonna go far. Now with a roster full of good PG's that may just happen. Both players can be more effective with PG's that are looking for them all the time.

Yea, all I can say is amare had a team with felton and a bunch of young guys and that team went 28-26.. In comes this loser malcontent and we lose a coach, amare's game and the best thing to happen to the knicks this decade.. jeremy lin...

this team has taken on the stinking, dirty, air of carmelo.... I am not sure how you are expecting both players to have a big year.. amare can't play with this dude.. at least with amare, we can look back as some sort of playoff success in his history.. with carmelo?

call me a hater? sure, I hate guys like carmelo... Loser mentality and the IQ if a JR smith.. I rather have those types of guys play elsewhere....

Lol at least we know where you stand, no flip flopping from your position.

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ChuckBuck wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:You can bash STAT all you want for the last 2 seasons poor playoffs, but for his career STAT has been a very good playoff performer. STAT has a lot to make up for this year and I think he'll be up for the challenge.

GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Melo 54 54 38.9 8.6-20.4 .419 1.0-3.2 .327 6.8-8.3 .815 2.5 4.9 7.4 3.0 0.4 1.3 3.8 3.0 24.9
Amare 60 60 36.8 8.2-15.9 .516 0.1-0.3 .200 6.5-8.8 .745 3.1 5.8 8.9 1.0 1.6 1.0 3.8 2.7 22.9

STAT needs to get the ball more in this offense. He's been a more efficient scorer over his career and if given the ball regularly he can dominate. The only issue has been staying free of injury and the lack of good PG play. The back was a major issue, but he was able to come back from it and looked healthy. I don't count the hand thing as it was a freak accident.

If both players have a big year, this team is gonna go far. Now with a roster full of good PG's that may just happen. Both players can be more effective with PG's that are looking for them all the time.

Yea, all I can say is amare had a team with felton and a bunch of young guys and that team went 28-26.. In comes this loser malcontent and we lose a coach, amare's game and the best thing to happen to the knicks this decade.. jeremy lin...

this team has taken on the stinking, dirty, air of carmelo.... I am not sure how you are expecting both players to have a big year.. amare can't play with this dude.. at least with amare, we can look back as some sort of playoff success in his history.. with carmelo?

call me a hater? sure, I hate guys like carmelo... Loser mentality and the IQ if a JR smith.. I rather have those types of guys play elsewhere....

Lol at least we know where you stand, no flip flopping from your position.

lol.. no flip flop here.. I don't like the dude.... can't root for him.. it really sucks he is on the knicks....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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8/6/2012  3:15 PM
tkf wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:You can bash STAT all you want for the last 2 seasons poor playoffs, but for his career STAT has been a very good playoff performer. STAT has a lot to make up for this year and I think he'll be up for the challenge.

GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Melo 54 54 38.9 8.6-20.4 .419 1.0-3.2 .327 6.8-8.3 .815 2.5 4.9 7.4 3.0 0.4 1.3 3.8 3.0 24.9
Amare 60 60 36.8 8.2-15.9 .516 0.1-0.3 .200 6.5-8.8 .745 3.1 5.8 8.9 1.0 1.6 1.0 3.8 2.7 22.9

STAT needs to get the ball more in this offense. He's been a more efficient scorer over his career and if given the ball regularly he can dominate. The only issue has been staying free of injury and the lack of good PG play. The back was a major issue, but he was able to come back from it and looked healthy. I don't count the hand thing as it was a freak accident.

If both players have a big year, this team is gonna go far. Now with a roster full of good PG's that may just happen. Both players can be more effective with PG's that are looking for them all the time.

Yea, all I can say is amare had a team with felton and a bunch of young guys and that team went 28-26.. In comes this loser malcontent and we lose a coach, amare's game and the best thing to happen to the knicks this decade.. jeremy lin...

this team has taken on the stinking, dirty, air of carmelo.... I am not sure how you are expecting both players to have a big year.. amare can't play with this dude.. at least with amare, we can look back as some sort of playoff success in his history.. with carmelo?

call me a hater? sure, I hate guys like carmelo... Loser mentality and the IQ if a JR smith.. I rather have those types of guys play elsewhere....

Lol at least we know where you stand, no flip flopping from your position.

lol.. no flip flop here.. I don't like the dude.... can't root for him.. it really sucks he is on the knicks....

Ok to just not like a dude - your honesty is actually refreshing

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8/7/2012  9:50 AM
I meant to respond to this thread on day one, but wasn't coming to NY his jumping ship? Me thinks 'twas. NY is where he's trying to be a part of big team like the Riley's douchebags.
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8/7/2012  11:13 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/7/2012  11:14 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
tkf wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
tkf wrote:
nixluva wrote:You can bash STAT all you want for the last 2 seasons poor playoffs, but for his career STAT has been a very good playoff performer. STAT has a lot to make up for this year and I think he'll be up for the challenge.

GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Melo 54 54 38.9 8.6-20.4 .419 1.0-3.2 .327 6.8-8.3 .815 2.5 4.9 7.4 3.0 0.4 1.3 3.8 3.0 24.9
Amare 60 60 36.8 8.2-15.9 .516 0.1-0.3 .200 6.5-8.8 .745 3.1 5.8 8.9 1.0 1.6 1.0 3.8 2.7 22.9

STAT needs to get the ball more in this offense. He's been a more efficient scorer over his career and if given the ball regularly he can dominate. The only issue has been staying free of injury and the lack of good PG play. The back was a major issue, but he was able to come back from it and looked healthy. I don't count the hand thing as it was a freak accident.

If both players have a big year, this team is gonna go far. Now with a roster full of good PG's that may just happen. Both players can be more effective with PG's that are looking for them all the time.

Yea, all I can say is amare had a team with felton and a bunch of young guys and that team went 28-26.. In comes this loser malcontent and we lose a coach, amare's game and the best thing to happen to the knicks this decade.. jeremy lin...

this team has taken on the stinking, dirty, air of carmelo.... I am not sure how you are expecting both players to have a big year.. amare can't play with this dude.. at least with amare, we can look back as some sort of playoff success in his history.. with carmelo?

call me a hater? sure, I hate guys like carmelo... Loser mentality and the IQ if a JR smith.. I rather have those types of guys play elsewhere....

Lol at least we know where you stand, no flip flopping from your position.

lol.. no flip flop here.. I don't like the dude.... can't root for him.. it really sucks he is on the knicks....

Ok to just not like a dude - your honesty is actually refreshing

Very, very true. I looked it up while doing post research for another thread.[yes, I know I need to go outside more and play] tkf is absolutely the staunchest, most prolific defender of the Melo hate. And he at least doesn't try to hide behind the "I only hate because I love the team" bs.

Honesty is always refreshing.

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8/7/2012  12:50 PM
since your all so refreshed by honesty you guy who ride Melo's jock are douches.

tfk... what are you going to do? Root against the Knicks? Root for Knicks to win but Melo to fail? Just check out all together? What if the Knicks have a great run this year? Can you get behind Melo?

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8/7/2012  1:01 PM
fishmike wrote:since your all so refreshed by honesty you guy who ride Melo's jock are douches.

tfk... what are you going to do? Root against the Knicks? Root for Knicks to win but Melo to fail? Just check out all together? What if the Knicks have a great run this year? Can you get behind Melo?

Haha at least TKF doesn't hedge his bets, fishmike, like some posters in case Melo does well.

I would't be suprised if Melo might jump ship and play with a team like LeBron, Kobe. They called LeBron a chocker now a winner

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