Q. gunsnewing - I would gladly take 45% from Melo. Where was he last year 43?

A. You are correct. 43, which was percent was below his career average of .456.

Then again his assists (3.6) were ahead of career average of 3.1.

Apparently, playing through pain and dragging his puffy body through 55 games, Carmelo was hitting the open man with slightly more frequency.

jmpasq - Good signs abound in London. Nobody cares about that.

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Q. gunsnewing - I would gladly take 45% from Melo. Where was he last year 43?

A. You are correct. 43, which was percent was below his career average of .456.

Then again his assists (3.6) were ahead of career average of 3.1.

Apparently, playing through pain and dragging his puffy body through 55 games, Carmelo was hitting the open man with slightly more frequency.

Good signs abound in London. Nobody cares about that.

Don't you know Earl, Negativity reigns supreme around here.

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I noticed yesterday that no one made a thread. He was great yesterday. Melo along with Westbrook Looked like the best players on the floor.Guy is playing great defense. Even on the FT's he is showing great effort establishing position to get possible rebounds.I think melo is figuring things out.

That could be it or it could be just a random string of good play. I remember after he first joined the Knicks and had a high shooting % (including 40+% from 3 pt range), many said he finally figured things out and has become a much more efficient shooter.

Lol at random string of good play. Dude just lucked into 5 All star games and 5 All NBA Teams. I guess USA Basketball just picked him for the last 3 Olympics because they need the token fat guy too.

Yes, if you equate popularity (all star appearances) with good play, then my arguments will be laughable. The problem is merely with your definition of good play.

Of course you know more than the experts that pick him for All NBA every year, Bonn. I hope you know the difference between All NBA vs All Star appearances. Your genius is all encompassing when it comes to judging good play.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I noticed yesterday that no one made a thread. He was great yesterday. Melo along with Westbrook Looked like the best players on the floor.Guy is playing great defense. Even on the FT's he is showing great effort establishing position to get possible rebounds.I think melo is figuring things out.

That could be it or it could be just a random string of good play. I remember after he first joined the Knicks and had a high shooting % (including 40+% from 3 pt range), many said he finally figured things out and has become a much more efficient shooter.

Lol at random string of good play. Dude just lucked into 5 All star games and 5 All NBA Teams. I guess USA Basketball just picked him for the last 3 Olympics because they need the token fat guy too.

Yes, if you equate popularity (all star appearances) with good play, then my arguments will be laughable. The problem is merely with your definition of good play.

Of course you know more than the experts that pick him for All NBA every year, Bonn. I hope you know the difference between All NBA vs All Star appearances. Your genius is all encompassing when it comes to judging good play.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I noticed yesterday that no one made a thread. He was great yesterday. Melo along with Westbrook Looked like the best players on the floor.Guy is playing great defense. Even on the FT's he is showing great effort establishing position to get possible rebounds.I think melo is figuring things out.

That could be it or it could be just a random string of good play. I remember after he first joined the Knicks and had a high shooting % (including 40+% from 3 pt range), many said he finally figured things out and has become a much more efficient shooter.

Lol at random string of good play. Dude just lucked into 5 All star games and 5 All NBA Teams. I guess USA Basketball just picked him for the last 3 Olympics because they need the token fat guy too.

Yes, if you equate popularity (all star appearances) with good play, then my arguments will be laughable. The problem is merely with your definition of good play.

Of course you know more than the experts that pick him for All NBA every year, Bonn. I hope you know the difference between All NBA vs All Star appearances. Your genius is all encompassing when it comes to judging good play.

I don't claim to know more than the experts. We just disagree on who the experts are. I know much less than experts like Bill James and David Berri. Ironically you claim to know more than these experts.

So you're giving no validity to the All NBA Team?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-NBA_Team

It's just a bunch of scrubs they throw in there?

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I noticed yesterday that no one made a thread. He was great yesterday. Melo along with Westbrook Looked like the best players on the floor.Guy is playing great defense. Even on the FT's he is showing great effort establishing position to get possible rebounds.I think melo is figuring things out.

That could be it or it could be just a random string of good play. I remember after he first joined the Knicks and had a high shooting % (including 40+% from 3 pt range), many said he finally figured things out and has become a much more efficient shooter.

Lol at random string of good play. Dude just lucked into 5 All star games and 5 All NBA Teams. I guess USA Basketball just picked him for the last 3 Olympics because they need the token fat guy too.

Yes, if you equate popularity (all star appearances) with good play, then my arguments will be laughable. The problem is merely with your definition of good play.

Of course you know more than the experts that pick him for All NBA every year, Bonn. I hope you know the difference between All NBA vs All Star appearances. Your genius is all encompassing when it comes to judging good play.

I don't claim to know more than the experts. We just disagree on who the experts are. I know much less than experts like Bill James and David Berri. Ironically you claim to know more than these experts.

So you're giving no validity to the All NBA Team?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-NBA_Team

It's just a bunch of scrubs they throw in there?

I'd give a little validity to it. There is a correlation between intuitive assessment (which is what all-star appearances and the like are based on) and actual contribution to wins. So any awards based solely on intuition will not be entirely arbitrarily; they'll be moderately connected to the player's contribution to wins. They'll also suffer from all the limitations and biases of intuition, though.

Huh? Did you even read the link I sent you? It's the All NBA Team not the All Star Team. I severely overestimated your amount of basketball knowledge. All NBA is based on stats, not popularity. It's the very best at each position. Guess I have to spell things out for you, Boston Bill James.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I noticed yesterday that no one made a thread. He was great yesterday. Melo along with Westbrook Looked like the best players on the floor.Guy is playing great defense. Even on the FT's he is showing great effort establishing position to get possible rebounds.I think melo is figuring things out.

That could be it or it could be just a random string of good play. I remember after he first joined the Knicks and had a high shooting % (including 40+% from 3 pt range), many said he finally figured things out and has become a much more efficient shooter.

Lol at random string of good play. Dude just lucked into 5 All star games and 5 All NBA Teams. I guess USA Basketball just picked him for the last 3 Olympics because they need the token fat guy too.

Yes, if you equate popularity (all star appearances) with good play, then my arguments will be laughable. The problem is merely with your definition of good play.

Of course you know more than the experts that pick him for All NBA every year, Bonn. I hope you know the difference between All NBA vs All Star appearances. Your genius is all encompassing when it comes to judging good play.

I don't claim to know more than the experts. We just disagree on who the experts are. I know much less than experts like Bill James and David Berri. Ironically you claim to know more than these experts.

So you're giving no validity to the All NBA Team?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-NBA_Team

It's just a bunch of scrubs they throw in there?

I'd give a little validity to it. There is a correlation between intuitive assessment (which is what all-star appearances and the like are based on) and actual contribution to wins. So any awards based solely on intuition will not be entirely arbitrarily; they'll be moderately connected to the player's contribution to wins. They'll also suffer from all the limitations and biases of intuition, though.

Huh? Did you even read the link I sent you? It's the All NBA Team not the All Star Team. I severely overestimated your amount of basketball knowledge. All NBA is based on stats, not popularity. It's the very best at each position. Guess I have to spell things out for you, Boston Bill James.

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I noticed yesterday that no one made a thread. He was great yesterday. Melo along with Westbrook Looked like the best players on the floor.Guy is playing great defense. Even on the FT's he is showing great effort establishing position to get possible rebounds.I think melo is figuring things out.

That could be it or it could be just a random string of good play. I remember after he first joined the Knicks and had a high shooting % (including 40+% from 3 pt range), many said he finally figured things out and has become a much more efficient shooter.

Lol at random string of good play. Dude just lucked into 5 All star games and 5 All NBA Teams. I guess USA Basketball just picked him for the last 3 Olympics because they need the token fat guy too.

Yes, if you equate popularity (all star appearances) with good play, then my arguments will be laughable. The problem is merely with your definition of good play.

Of course you know more than the experts that pick him for All NBA every year, Bonn. I hope you know the difference between All NBA vs All Star appearances. Your genius is all encompassing when it comes to judging good play.

I don't claim to know more than the experts. We just disagree on who the experts are. I know much less than experts like Bill James and David Berri. Ironically you claim to know more than these experts.

So you're giving no validity to the All NBA Team?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-NBA_Team

It's just a bunch of scrubs they throw in there?

I'd give a little validity to it. There is a correlation between intuitive assessment (which is what all-star appearances and the like are based on) and actual contribution to wins. So any awards based solely on intuition will not be entirely arbitrarily; they'll be moderately connected to the player's contribution to wins. They'll also suffer from all the limitations and biases of intuition, though.

Huh? Did you even read the link I sent you? It's the All NBA Team not the All Star Team. I severely overestimated your amount of basketball knowledge. All NBA is based on stats, not popularity. It's the very best at each position. Guess I have to spell things out for you, Boston Bill James.

All-nba team is based on popularity, which derives from intuition. Then those intuitive assessments are statistically added to determine votes. You have not removed intuition and its inherent limitations from the analysis.

Likewise, the awards do not utilize any scientifically defensible statistical analysis.

gunsnewing wrote:Posting on an android sux

So basically you're saying the All NBA Team means diddly squat

that you know more than all the people that cover the sport for a living?