arkrud wrote:I am not a fan of Melo even in NY.
On other team I will not even check on him.

No sh@t. I never would have known.

Nalod wrote:Maybe sometime you can come over and we can pray over it together during a knick-Nugget game?

See Fishmike and Nalod secretly drinking a chicken blood toast that Gallo dunks over Melo and kicks his nose up into his smiling cranium during the process. While they continue chanting "starphucque...starphucque...starphucque..." and sticking pins in their Jimmie D dolls.

VCoug wrote:I've always been a big Melo fan going back to his days at Syracuse. And, I never hated the Nets the way other people here do so I wouldn't care if he was playing for Brooklyn. I also don't believe we gave up too much to get him but I do believe we gave up more than we had to.

Yes, your wording is more precise, the Knicks gave up more than they had to in the acquisition. I liked all the guys that were traded for him, but they were not irreplaceable and nowhere near his level (and I doubt the two best combined ever will be). Not a Nets fan though, so I'm glad he didn't end up there.

Gymkata wrote:I think he's a good guy and my criticisms of his play come from the perspective of wanting him to succeed, not a desire to see him falter.

I want the team to succeed (i.e.: championship) and if that happens with Melo leading them but only scoring 15 ppg, I'd be more than happy with that.

gunsnewing wrote:Only in orange and blue. Used to think of him as Denvers version of Iverson early on in his career but hebhas improved

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:Maybe sometime you can come over and we can pray over it together during a knick-Nugget game?

See Fishmike and Nalod secretly drinking a chicken blood toast that Gallo dunks over Melo and kicks his nose up into his smiling cranium during the process. While they continue chanting "starphucque...starphucque...starphucque..." and sticking pins in their Jimmie D dolls.

But its still more productive than circle jerking over Melo in a NYK jersey with the homers while blasting "JD and the Straigh Shot" music with the bass turned up!

What exactly does your dream night with fishmike actually produce, again? Comparitively speaking, of course.

Nalod wrote:
Add the poll votes up and its still 100% are fans or are rooting for him.

I think really its not so much that there any real hate but its the expectations given:

The price paid for him.
Dolans stench is on the trade.
Knick propoganda machine to promote its star.
Some fans unabashed love from moment he took those goofy pictures with Dolan.

Style vs substance and many fans want results.

THe record speaks for itself but this trade will take years to really unfold itself.

Until then, we have the games to watch.

Nalod, why did you not put in an option for - People Who Dislike Him?

Nalod wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Add the poll votes up and its still 100% are fans or are rooting for him.

I think really its not so much that there any real hate but its the expectations given:

The price paid for him.
Dolans stench is on the trade.
Knick propoganda machine to promote its star.
Some fans unabashed love from moment he took those goofy pictures with Dolan.

Style vs substance and many fans want results.

THe record speaks for itself but this trade will take years to really unfold itself.

Until then, we have the games to watch.

Nalod, why did you not put in an option for - People Who Dislike Him?

I don't really get the sense there are many that do. I was curious because I thought Melo's "don't snitch" and his punk ass punch in the "fight" would have turned some knick fans off.

I don't see much dislike for him. I was not a fan of his but he is a knick and players can grow up and change. As so it could, so could our perceptions.

I have come to like the guy. He is personable and I hope he does well.

I do think he is over rated in some UK circles. Aren't we all?

You definitely have two extremes. However, you would be foolish to assume that there aren't many here that don't like him at all.

I like him because he is now a knick but I was really disappointed that they did not go after Deron. I thought he was a far better fit for this team.

Melo is here now and as you said, he is not a bad guy and is quite personable. He is our best (primary) player at this point and if we are to win anything, it will need to be because of him.

He needs to trust his teammates more though his teammates need to do a better job of earning his trust.

He MUST minimize those "I am on a hot streak" or "I need to get myself going" jumpers and let the game come to him.

I think that his defense is underrated and he actually was the only one who even bothered Lebron.

I blame him in the MDA fight just like I blame Kobe in his fight with PJax. Diva attitude towards a stubborn ass coach with the only difference being that MDA has a bit to go before he reaches Phils class.

I am also not sure who really affects Amare. Is it Melo? Tyson? Or mostly Amare.

It is definitely now in Melo's court with a coach that fits his style and PG's to facilitate the offense.

I think the key to this season is actually Tyson's health.

smackeddog wrote:Never really was a fan of Melo's before we got him. Hated the trade at the time, but we ended up getting Tyson thanks to it, and Felton has returned too, so looks like I was wrong. Last season, he started in pretty good shape and focused more on defense. Then there were injuries and his fued with D'Antoni. He then plumpened up and stopped trying.

I'm glad D'Antoni is gone- since then Melo's won me over a bit. The hate he gets is too much- media and some fans literally blame him for everything and are obsessed that he hated their beloved Jeremy and drove him out of town!

Under Woodson, he's playing defense, and lost weight before the olympics, and he was flat out awesome during that stretch where he pretty much single handedly got us into the playoffs against some tough apponents. For me, that stretch was just as exciting and impressive as the Linsanity run.

Then we had a disasterous playoffs (Tyson ill, Shump tears ACL, BD's knee explodes, Amar'e punches fire extinguisher), and somehow Melo gets blamed for all this- crazy! Why did we end up playing Melo ball in the playoffs? Because there was no one else left! At least he was still playing in the playoffs, and was key to the one win we did get. I really, really don't understand the hate Melo has gotten for the playoffs- to the point his detractors don't even mention that he got us into the playoffs with that run.

Oh but he dogged it before Woody took over. Yes he did, but loads of star players have done that when they didn't like their coach. Heck Ewing did it under Don Nelson.

Just catching up on some forum activity...

This is an excellent post, and sums up how I feel as well. Melo is a terrific all-around player (he can rebound as well as any SF, and can also defend and pass), and seems like a pretty good guy, yet he gets lambasted all the time.

Whatever...I'll continue to enjoy watching him and am happy we have an elite player in his prime.