Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Are we really paying Felton $18 mil? I don't get it.

Thank heaven that you are not our GM

Well we wouldn't have Mr. .470 and we wouldn't have won only one playoff game in the past 10+ years.

I guess you would not have these Mr's on your team:

Mr .450 - Deron
Mr .470 - CPaul (he might be borderline?)
Mr .440 - PPierce
Mr .450 - Kobe
Mr .420 - GALLO
Mr .440 - Granger
Mr .440 - Lin (.340 against > .500 teams)
Mr .460 - KLove (who I love)
Mr .460 - Rudy Gay
Mr .430 - Ryan Anderson (who you love??)

Do you need a new knick name?

All of those numbers are incorrect. The .470 is winning percentage in games played in on current team. The Knicks have won 47% and lost 53% of the games Melo has played in.

Oh ... hahaha - I didn't realize your nickname was so dumb and out of context - hahhaha

My fault! I should have realized how low you stoop to be pointless.

Memory problems? It hasn't even been a week since we had a discussion on this. I also mentioned the .470 is partly tongue in cheek since I don't think Melo actually hurts his teams. I just haven't seen any evidence that he helps them significantly.
You seem to be the one ignoring context though - You've found and obsessed on a sample of 102 shots from Lin. We don't even know how many of those games he was playing on a bad knee during. All we do know is that he was learning to play under a new coach with a very different offense.

I remember the conversation but I thought you were referencing fg%.

The 102 sample is small but its all you have to go on. How would a college player be judged in tournaments? Won't he also be judged on a small sample size of clutch situations? Won't that greatly affect draft position?

If we had more to go on it would have been an easier decision.

For now, all we have is 102 shots at 34% when it counts - that ain't to hot! Even according to the Sabermetricians.

BTW,

Here is a good article for you from 2008 - Morey's 'Moneyball' approach paying off

http://www.thestar.com/article/345327

2012 - I guess it ain't payin off.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Are we really paying Felton $18 mil? I don't get it.

Thank heaven that you are not our GM

Well we wouldn't have Mr. .470 and we wouldn't have won only one playoff game in the past 10+ years.

I guess you would not have these Mr's on your team:

Mr .450 - Deron
Mr .470 - CPaul (he might be borderline?)
Mr .440 - PPierce
Mr .450 - Kobe
Mr .420 - GALLO
Mr .440 - Granger
Mr .440 - Lin (.340 against > .500 teams)
Mr .460 - KLove (who I love)
Mr .460 - Rudy Gay
Mr .430 - Ryan Anderson (who you love??)

Do you need a new knick name?

BTW what's Melo against > .500 teams?

46% in his worst shooting season!! Glad you asked

But it's .390 in playoff games as a Knick.

Yeah - there is blame there even though we asked him to play 1 on 5 - two years in a row. I kind of feel for him here.

How did PP, Harden and Granger do against Miami???????? PUTRID!

How was Lin's FG% in the playoffs? Oh ... I forgot, he wouldn't play as to not lose his payday therefore, no sample size - not my type of player

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Are we really paying Felton $18 mil? I don't get it.

Thank heaven that you are not our GM

Well we wouldn't have Mr. .470 and we wouldn't have won only one playoff game in the past 10+ years.

DLee would be our starting center..

holfresh wrote:Lin and him camp needs to get a life...They jacked up the third year of the deal making it difficult forths Knicks to match..Now they are applying the version of spin to make Lin look like the good guy..The more his camp talk the less credibility they have..

Nobody cares about their credibility.
They get the money and good place for Lin.
Great job on their part. They get 10.
Lin was not compatible with what we have in MSG. Not bbal-vise not character-vise.
Same kind of people stick together. Dolan, Melo, Stat, Kid, JR. Perfect company of egocentric sobs.
Let’s them ride this wreck to the ground. We are there to watch the show

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Are we really paying Felton $18 mil? I don't get it.

Thank heaven that you are not our GM

Well we wouldn't have Mr. .470 and we wouldn't have won only one playoff game in the past 10+ years.

DLee would be our starting center..

Nope

babyKnicks wrote:Nobody cares anymore. Let's talk Camby!

yup, yup. All these days later guys are sill more emotional than most girls. Time to pull out that good ole Knicks tradition and hate on the guy cause he's wearing the enemies colors.

The Cambyman is back in New York!!!!

smackeddog wrote:I'm so bored of the c**p flying out of Lin's Camp:

First he said he was at 85% in the playoffs, now he clarifies he meant 85% of the absolute minimum needed to play.

On hearing news that the Knicks weren't matching, he says in an interview by his college friend, that he "honestly" preferred New York. Then at the Rockets press conference he clarifies that he meant he preferred New York, only before any other suitors had made themselves known (Ha ha!) and that he actually preferred both the Rockets and Knicks equally!

He says he isn't interested in money, has enough and has very few endorsements because he isn't interested in money, yet negotiates a big poison pill contract and hires a new shark agent who specializes in endorsements.

Now he can't make up his mind whether he really expected the Knicks to match anything and was shocked that they didn't, or whether he knew all along that they wouldn't and that's why he renegotiated the Rockets offer.

So we didn't plan on matching Lin all along? So why did we let him sit out the playoffs to protect his long term interests? Why did we let him work out with our assistant coach during the whole off season process? Why did Woody invite him for dinner? Oh but that's not enough for Lin- he really needs to feel wanted and expected a phone call at 12.01 sharp! News flash- teams don't phone their restricted free agents at 12.01, because they have the power to match anything- they instead focus on unrestricted free agents because they need to impress them more.

He claims that he would have accepted less to play for the Knicks (we could only offer him about half of what other teams could), yet mysteriously renegotiates his Rockets deal to the highest possible amount. Really, are we suppose to think if we phoned him at 12.01 and said "here's $24 mil over 4 years" his new shark agent would have said- "sure! I'm not even going to bother trying to get the $40mil that other teams could offer him!".

I liked Lin and think its a big mistake we let him go for nothing, but I find these media spin games and lies by his people irritating, just like I find Dolan's decision that he doesn't need to explain or say anything about this matter to fans amazingly arrogant.

You can't understand how devastating it was for Jeremy to be called about a contract that will be worth tens of millions of dollars at 12:15 instead of 12:01. Who cares that most people in this country are just trying to keep their head above water in a depression? Those 15 minutes were brutal for him! Leave Jeremy alone!!!

Caseloads wrote:Some serious sauce here

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8179341/nba-jeremy-lin-six-degrees-separation-lin-camp

Lin camp knew Knicks were being cost conscious

Knew Knicks might not match

Wanted to pay lin 14 million for 3 yrs

Lin wanted to go to raptors ?

Lin liked Houston's team

It makes sense the Knicks didnt want to really match. My guess is if they really wanted Lin back they would of put a standing offer of the Max immediatly on the table when FA opened. The Knicks never gave Lin an option to walk away from the Rockets offer because they never put 1 on the table themselves. In the end I think Lin got a better situation for himself with more money.His high usage style wasnt going to fit as the knicks starting PG. I would of like to see them keep him to play opposite Melo as the PG or with Melo as the 2 but hey what r u going to do. The Knicks had to rush the Felton move because the Trailblazers would of had them to the wall after Lin left. Still dont get why we had to give Felton 4 years 18 million Should of kept that deal to 3 years. The original rumor of 3 years 10 million i was very happy about.

jrodmc wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I'm so bored of the c**p flying out of Lin's Camp:

First he said he was at 85% in the playoffs, now he clarifies he meant 85% of the absolute minimum needed to play.

On hearing news that the Knicks weren't matching, he says in an interview by his college friend, that he "honestly" preferred New York. Then at the Rockets press conference he clarifies that he meant he preferred New York, only before any other suitors had made themselves known (Ha ha!) and that he actually preferred both the Rockets and Knicks equally!

He says he isn't interested in money, has enough and has very few endorsements because he isn't interested in money, yet negotiates a big poison pill contract and hires a new shark agent who specializes in endorsements.

Now he can't make up his mind whether he really expected the Knicks to match anything and was shocked that they didn't, or whether he knew all along that they wouldn't and that's why he renegotiated the Rockets offer.

So we didn't plan on matching Lin all along? So why did we let him sit out the playoffs to protect his long term interests? Why did we let him work out with our assistant coach during the whole off season process? Why did Woody invite him for dinner? Oh but that's not enough for Lin- he really needs to feel wanted and expected a phone call at 12.01 sharp! News flash- teams don't phone their restricted free agents at 12.01, because they have the power to match anything- they instead focus on unrestricted free agents because they need to impress them more.

He claims that he would have accepted less to play for the Knicks (we could only offer him about half of what other teams could), yet mysteriously renegotiates his Rockets deal to the highest possible amount. Really, are we suppose to think if we phoned him at 12.01 and said "here's $24 mil over 4 years" his new shark agent would have said- "sure! I'm not even going to bother trying to get the $40mil that other teams could offer him!".

I liked Lin and think its a big mistake we let him go for nothing, but I find these media spin games and lies by his people irritating, just like I find Dolan's decision that he doesn't need to explain or say anything about this matter to fans amazingly arrogant.

You can't understand how devastating it was for Jeremy to be called about a contract that will be worth tens of millions of dollars at 12:15 instead of 12:01. Who cares that most people in this country are just trying to keep their head above water in a depression? Those 15 minutes were brutal for him! Leave Jeremy alone!!!

+1

Have fun passing to Omer Asik, Lin!

Us bull’s fan don’t care. Hey Houston have fun with a 7 footer who can’t catch the ball in the paint and averages 3 points a game. You just paid 25 million for a back-up center, and a PG who played 15 good NBA games.

Omersanity!

tj23 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Are we really paying Felton $18 mil? I don't get it.

Thank heaven that you are not our GM

Well we wouldn't have Mr. .470 and we wouldn't have won only one playoff game in the past 10+ years.

DLee would be our starting center..

Where did that come from?

Bonn1997 wrote:

tj23 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Are we really paying Felton $18 mil? I don't get it.

Thank heaven that you are not our GM

Well we wouldn't have Mr. .470 and we wouldn't have won only one playoff game in the past 10+ years.

DLee would be our starting center..

Where did that come from?

Good question

Ha..Bonn gonna pretend we didn't have a big back and forth about him saying We should have brought back DLee to be our starting center...Ok