How about when we let Bernard King walk to open a roster spot for Sidney Green?

I tend to agree with Lochon though. Don't be discouraged because people are mean on this forum, they are justifying what occurred. In the end, certain players on this team, and certain broadcasters who hold weight, and certain owners who are easily swayed decided he was not worth bringing back. Everyone says it's the money, but if Jeremy Lin were someone who wasn't who he was, and didn't take fame away from those who think they deserve it more, maybe he would be back with the team.

23 year old point guard free agents who average 17 and 8 tend to get that type of money. He was a victim of his own fame.

Paladin55 wrote:I don't look at that $15M year without considering the other 2 years. He is making about $8.3M/year for 3 years, and that is how you should look at it when considering Lin's value and whether or not he is overpaid.

Unfortunately with the new cba you have to look at the third year as 15 mil. You also have to realize that to move 15 mil you have to take15 mil back. Lin's situation was pretty unique because most capped out teams don't have league minimum guys become world wide stars.

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CrushAlot wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:I don't look at that $15M year without considering the other 2 years. He is making about $8.3M/year for 3 years, and that is how you should look at it when considering Lin's value and whether or not he is overpaid.

Unfortunately with the new cba you have to look at the third year as 15 mil. You also have to realize that to move 15 mil you have to take15 mil back. Lin's situation was pretty unique because most capped out teams don't have league minimum guys become world wide stars.

I was looking more at how to assess his value in general if I am another player, or a fan, not in relation to cap space. Will the player with a 3 year 10/10/10 contract be upset that third year if Lin, who is getting $5M less over 3 years, is making about $5M more that third year?

I would think it depends on who the players is.

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BasketballJones wrote:

blackisblack wrote:All this doesn't matter anymore. Lin is gone. I wish him the best. I want him to succeed.

Oh, we are not gonna hear the end of this anytime soon. We still hear people pining for Gallinari on a fairly regular basis. They are not gonna get over this for a long time,if ever.

A shameless and self-promoting "thread placement" on your part

I'm shocked anyone noticed.

Paladin55 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:I don't look at that $15M year without considering the other 2 years. He is making about $8.3M/year for 3 years, and that is how you should look at it when considering Lin's value and whether or not he is overpaid.

Unfortunately with the new cba you have to look at the third year as 15 mil. You also have to realize that to move 15 mil you have to take15 mil back. Lin's situation was pretty unique because most capped out teams don't have league minimum guys become world wide stars.

I was looking more at how to assess his value in general if I am another player, or a fan, not in relation to cap space. Will the player with a 3 year 10/10/10 contract be upset that third year if Lin, who is getting $5M less over 3 years, is making about $5M more that third year?

I just read another post where it was pointed out that Lin is making more than anyone in his draft class than John wall. That really highlights the flaws in the cba and also how unique his situation is.

misterearl wrote:SFX: Buzzer

tj23 wrote:Because kidd only averaged 6 PTs and 5 asts

tj23 - you are making a common mistake by looking only at the superficial things that matter less than team cohesion and chemistry. Put down the NBA Almanac and step away from the vehicle. Now consider the human element.

Basketball is a fine art of getting twelve men to trust each other. The less drama the better. The reason New York is so different from other places is the intense scrutiny of every detail. Think of it this way - here you are here in July, talking relative productivity with The Answer Man. Thank about that.

The main point is that getting those 12 players together requires more than statistics. It demands an understanding of egos and comprehension. Phil Jackson understod this and gave his players books chosen to address their individual personalities. There is more to this thing that simply basketball. It is team building.

Jeremy Lin is a good player to have on Houston's roster because they desperately needed a point guard, could use the attention and blew it the first time. Their roster is young and impressionable. Nice fit.

The Knicks roster is composed of grizzled veterans, with a few yoots sprinkled in. Hell, even our Summer league dudes are older. Copeland is 28 and Parakhouski is 25. James White is a contemporary of David Lee. The veterans are expected to lead. Does the money empower Lin at an unbalanced rate that causes tension, which the media is happy to exploit and magnify?

You tell me where the better emotional, egotistical/ economic FIT is.

You do not pay the expert mentor (with 1315 games and 107 triple doubles) 1/3 the salary of the unproven student, with 25 games).

You simply do not.

Kyrie Irving makes double what Jason Kidd makes. If we could trade Felton and Kurt for him you wouldn't pull the trigger? Sorry, I'm about winning basketball games, not satisfying egos.

smackeddog wrote:I really don't understand what the point of this thread was. Paying Lin $15mil in one season is okay if you paid Tyson $25mil in one season. WTF?!?! And then the attitude when people disagreed.

And anyway, it's not even the contract that was the reason for Lin leaving- it was due to the renegotiation. Most of the board would have matched the offer too- we merely differ on how bothered we are that he's gone.

Right. It's a question of whether you can move on, or instead remain forever fixated on this one move.