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RicanHavok
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7/18/2012  1:59 PM
Just read the Facebook bashing Lin thread...those people need to redirect their ire.
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7/18/2012  2:06 PM
Can't believe you buy that story by Lin! So he's not interested in endorsements or money? Oh so why did you just dump your long term agent and hire a shark who's speciality is in endorsements?! Please answer me that! We absolutely wanted Lin back, it was obvious right until the point he secretly renegotiated the deal. He is not some innocent victim, he made a money grab after we had showed him good faith by telling him we'd match the offer!

Didn't want him? Absolute rubbish! We were looking at veteran guards to mento him- Nash, Kidd and miller are all old. That was a fluff piece BS interview to make Lin out to be some bambi innocent. Oh poor Lin had to fly to his coach rather than the other way round! Oh poor Lin!

Don't buy the 'aw shucks' act.

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7/18/2012  2:07 PM
smackeddog wrote:Can't believe you buy that story by Lin! So he's not interested in endorsements or money? Oh so why did you just dump your long term agent and hire a shark who's speciality is in endorsements?! Please answer me that! We absolutely wanted Lin back, it was obvious right until the point he secretly renegotiated the deal. He is not some innocent victim, he made a money grab after we had showed him good faith by telling him we'd match the offer!

Didn't want him? Absolute rubbish! We were looking at veteran guards to mento him- Nash, Kidd and miller are all old. That was a fluff piece BS interview to make Lin out to be some bambi innocent. Oh poor Lin had to fly to his coach rather than the other way round! Oh poor Lin!

Don't buy the 'aw shucks' act.

Should we buy the 'these dumb idiots will pay for whatever crap i put on the floor' act by Dolan?

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7/18/2012  2:09 PM
smackeddog wrote:Can't believe you buy that story by Lin! So he's not interested in endorsements or money? Oh so why did you just dump your long term agent and hire a shark who's speciality is in endorsements?! Please answer me that! We absolutely wanted Lin back, it was obvious right until the point he secretly renegotiated the deal. He is not some innocent victim, he made a money grab after we had showed him good faith by telling him we'd match the offer!

Didn't want him? Absolute rubbish! We were looking at veteran guards to mento him- Nash, Kidd and miller are all old. That was a fluff piece BS interview to make Lin out to be some bambi innocent. Oh poor Lin had to fly to his coach rather than the other way round! Oh poor Lin!

Don't buy the 'aw shucks' act.

Are you for real? You don't think there's a line from your azz to China forming for endorsements for Lin? Endorsements is where the money's at, not your salary. You think that he has to go seeking endorsements with some shark? What the F is wrong with you (and your mom who bore you)?

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7/18/2012  2:10 PM
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Jmpasq wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:I really wonder if the Knicks did ever intend to keep him. Even though I dont think Lin would of accepted the max Knicks offer without testing FA why not just throw it out there just because. Whats the harm in it? Where they worried he would take it? Did Melo or Woodson express privately they didnt want him back. From a Knicks PR Standpoint they would look better had they just lobbed it out there. I mean maybe if Lin had that definitive contract maybe he wouldnt of signed the Rockets reworked deal. Very doubtful,but at least U could say, Hey we offered him this but he took the money. The thing that bothers me about losing Lin isnt losing the player its that we did a trade with houston. Couldnt of we got Camby back from them and not given up the Bigs and Picks. Could of used those in another trade for another player OJ Mayo perhaps. I truly believe Lin didnt want to be here and for his game he is better off in Houston. Still the Knicks made it real easy for people to take shots at them.

It really seemed like Woodson wanted Lin back. He flew out to have a dinner with Lin, Melo, Tyson, etc in California.

Then after the first offer, Woodson giddily said the Knicks would match and he was "absolutely" excited for Lin to be his starting PG. He said absolutely several times and was beaming in the interview.

I have to think this is about the offer upping. Maybe if Lin was worried he could have checked back with the Knicks... but there were multiple places quoting that the knicks would match "up to a billion dollars". Offer gets raised $6M... Jimmy picks up his toys and goes home.

But still why didnt they offer the 4 years 24 Million or whatever. Whats the harm in doing that. Thats the 1 thing that has bothered me about this. It just looks better from the Knicks point if they had just put that on the table

I'm pretty sure the max the Knicks could OFFER themselves was 3yr $16.5M or so. They could match anything, but couldn't offer more than basically $5M per year with raises for three years.

But, yes, I absolutely agree the Knicks should've put that on the table as a standing offer.

At least with that and if u want to believe Lin really only wanted to be a Knick u had an offer that was competitve with the first 3 years of the original Rocket offer of 19 mil. At least then U gave him a fall back if he wanted to walk away to stay a Knick. The Knicks didnt really give him an alternative. Now i want to say I do believe Lin wanted out. I dont think once Fields was gone they went after Nash, Dantoni left Lin wanted to stay. Knicks didnt really cover their bases to give themselves some tangible evidence of an accuse to let him walk though. All they have is an accusation he went to redo the deal on his own. Now even if thats true its not like the Knicks have any tangible proof they wanted him back.All we have is their word that they would of matched the offer. Bad Job by the Knicks of at least spinning things their way

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7/18/2012  2:10 PM
JamesLin wrote:If what he said was true, then the Knicks purposely screwed this deal. Talked to him only once this month? No wonder.. they never wanted Lin back unless it's for super cheap. Now I don't even think the Knicks were interested in Lin at all. You say they will match, but where's the paper? Always get it in writing. I now think Jimmy Dolan never wanted him back.

and how many times were they supposed to contact him. Woody flew out and took him to dinner, the Knicks let him know they wanted him. Letting the market set a free agents value is nothing knew. strange or rare. As for the 30second phone call, at that point, what else was there to say?

If Lin hadn't informed Houston that they could up the price because in his arrogance he thought they would match anything.

There is nothing new here but you Linofiles will cling onto anything you can use to try to justify your butthurt feelings.

Just go, become a Nets or Houston fan.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/18/2012  2:13 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:I really wonder if the Knicks did ever intend to keep him. Even though I dont think Lin would of accepted the max Knicks offer without testing FA why not just throw it out there just because. Whats the harm in it? Where they worried he would take it? Did Melo or Woodson express privately they didnt want him back. From a Knicks PR Standpoint they would look better had they just lobbed it out there. I mean maybe if Lin had that definitive contract maybe he wouldnt of signed the Rockets reworked deal. Very doubtful,but at least U could say, Hey we offered him this but he took the money. The thing that bothers me about losing Lin isnt losing the player its that we did a trade with houston. Couldnt of we got Camby back from them and not given up the Bigs and Picks. Could of used those in another trade for another player OJ Mayo perhaps. I truly believe Lin didnt want to be here and for his game he is better off in Houston. Still the Knicks made it real easy for people to take shots at them.

It really seemed like Woodson wanted Lin back. He flew out to have a dinner with Lin, Melo, Tyson, etc in California.

Then after the first offer, Woodson giddily said the Knicks would match and he was "absolutely" excited for Lin to be his starting PG. He said absolutely several times and was beaming in the interview.

I have to think this is about the offer upping. Maybe if Lin was worried he could have checked back with the Knicks... but there were multiple places quoting that the knicks would match "up to a billion dollars". Offer gets raised $6M... Jimmy picks up his toys and goes home.

the problem was/is the ramifications of the third year. You guys complained about Isiah overpaying guys but, this guy ISN'T WORTH RONDO MONEY. Hows about leading a team to the playoffs before getting paid like a superstar. Hows about making an allstar game before being paid like today's top allstars.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/18/2012  2:15 PM
I'm done posting here till the over emotional, weak ass fake ass fans leave.
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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7/18/2012  2:20 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:I'm done posting here till the over emotional, weak ass fake ass fans leave.

Bye, fake fan.

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7/18/2012  2:22 PM
crzymdups wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Can't believe you buy that story by Lin! So he's not interested in endorsements or money? Oh so why did you just dump your long term agent and hire a shark who's speciality is in endorsements?! Please answer me that! We absolutely wanted Lin back, it was obvious right until the point he secretly renegotiated the deal. He is not some innocent victim, he made a money grab after we had showed him good faith by telling him we'd match the offer!

Didn't want him? Absolute rubbish! We were looking at veteran guards to mento him- Nash, Kidd and miller are all old. That was a fluff piece BS interview to make Lin out to be some bambi innocent. Oh poor Lin had to fly to his coach rather than the other way round! Oh poor Lin!

Don't buy the 'aw shucks' act.

Should we buy the 'these dumb idiots will pay for whatever crap i put on the floor' act by Dolan?

Usually the truth is always in the middle.

Lets not forget Lin is already a huge brand. His team knows this. He has a team of people making sure his image and future always go to the right direction. So while I believe many of the points presented in this article, lets not forget this is a piece about Lin's version of how things happened and some details will either be omitted or made look good for the side that is presenting it.

For example, this article leaves the impression that the revamped offer had nothing to do with Felton coming in. It looks like Lin got an offer, the offer was revamped, Lin saw the writing on the wall with Felton's move and the deal was set to go to the Rockets. How many of us went to bed one night relieved Lin had gotten such a favorable deal that NY would definitely match and woke up to a new offer and Lin immediately signing it? Felton's deal came after this and it was evidently a reactionary move to a new reality on the Lin situation. But according to the article, Lin saw the writing on the wall on the Felton move and knew he wasn't going back.

As I said before, usually the truth is in the middle. But because of their broken hearts, some fans will believe everything on this piece and, as the tittle says, vomit. I wanted Lin back and I think NY should've acted differently than they did, but don't believe for a second that they are the sole responsible force behind this mess and the reason Lin isn't a Knick. Each side has its fault.

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7/18/2012  2:25 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:I'm done posting here till the over emotional, weak ass fake ass fans leave.

c ya

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7/18/2012  2:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/18/2012  2:28 PM
Hippo wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:I'm done posting here till the over emotional, weak ass fake ass fans leave.

Bye, fake fan.

seriously... what a ***** (female anatomy if you have filtering on)
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7/18/2012  2:30 PM
How does Lin saying that his heart is always with the New York fans going to help him in Houston. Don't be so cynical. I think Lin is pretty straightforward in this interview, and there is no doubt that he loved playing in New York (which is still different than willing to play in NY no matter what -- it isn't equal to that). But he loved playing in NY -- that much come through loud and clear.
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7/18/2012  2:31 PM
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smackeddog wrote:Can't believe you buy that story by Lin! So he's not interested in endorsements or money? Oh so why did you just dump your long term agent and hire a shark who's speciality is in endorsements?! Please answer me that! We absolutely wanted Lin back, it was obvious right until the point he secretly renegotiated the deal. He is not some innocent victim, he made a money grab after we had showed him good faith by telling him we'd match the offer!

Didn't want him? Absolute rubbish! We were looking at veteran guards to mento him- Nash, Kidd and miller are all old. That was a fluff piece BS interview to make Lin out to be some bambi innocent. Oh poor Lin had to fly to his coach rather than the other way round! Oh poor Lin!

Don't buy the 'aw shucks' act.

Are you for real? You don't think there's a line from your azz to China forming for endorsements for Lin? Endorsements is where the money's at, not your salary. You think that he has to go seeking endorsements with some shark? What the F is wrong with you (and your mom who bore you)?

He clearly claimed in that article that he's not interested in money or endorsements, yet he dumped his old agent and replaced him with a really aggressive one who's speciality is in building endorsements. What is wrong with you in that you can't smell the BS? If he wants to go for the big bucks that's completely fine- its a once in a life time chance. But don't do it while you're lying that you don't care about money! Be honest.

He's not evil or anything, but he is lying and just as much to blame for this as Dolan.

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7/18/2012  2:35 PM
He didn't say that he didn't care about endorsements (he said he signed three deals). That's different than caring ONLY for money. He has more than he needs already. He can sign for 150 million dollars if he wants. That 15 million in year 3 is chump change. Don't you get that???
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7/18/2012  2:35 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:I really wonder if the Knicks did ever intend to keep him. Even though I dont think Lin would of accepted the max Knicks offer without testing FA why not just throw it out there just because. Whats the harm in it? Where they worried he would take it? Did Melo or Woodson express privately they didnt want him back. From a Knicks PR Standpoint they would look better had they just lobbed it out there. I mean maybe if Lin had that definitive contract maybe he wouldnt of signed the Rockets reworked deal. Very doubtful,but at least U could say, Hey we offered him this but he took the money. The thing that bothers me about losing Lin isnt losing the player its that we did a trade with houston. Couldnt of we got Camby back from them and not given up the Bigs and Picks. Could of used those in another trade for another player OJ Mayo perhaps. I truly believe Lin didnt want to be here and for his game he is better off in Houston. Still the Knicks made it real easy for people to take shots at them.

It really seemed like Woodson wanted Lin back. He flew out to have a dinner with Lin, Melo, Tyson, etc in California.

Then after the first offer, Woodson giddily said the Knicks would match and he was "absolutely" excited for Lin to be his starting PG. He said absolutely several times and was beaming in the interview.

I have to think this is about the offer upping. Maybe if Lin was worried he could have checked back with the Knicks... but there were multiple places quoting that the knicks would match "up to a billion dollars". Offer gets raised $6M... Jimmy picks up his toys and goes home.

But still why didnt they offer the 4 years 24 Million or whatever. Whats the harm in doing that. Thats the 1 thing that has bothered me about this. It just looks better from the Knicks point if they had just put that on the table

This is a bit of the evidence to me. OUT OF RESPECT for what Lin did, you offer him the max you can - 4 years at 24 million - IMMEDIATELY! Now, if Lin doesn't accept that right away, that is reasonable. But if he then signs that 3 year 25 million dollar deal and we don't match, well the burden sort of falls on Lin. As it stands now, the Knicks and Dolan look terrible. This article shows there was no communication to Lin but once a month or something like that? What? Man, this is just hard to believe. You know, they say actions speak louder than words. Well, there were next to no words and the actions were just terrible on Dolans part.

I'll watch the team on occasion, for sure. But the magic that it was is gone. If I'm wrong then I'll be happy, but I just see us being a worse team. For us to be better, Felton would have to play better than he was playing when he was playing good under D'Antoni - that is not happening under Woody.

It's just sad as many of you understand - so close, so very close to having the team we dreamed about...

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7/18/2012  2:51 PM
Oh and by the way, according to Isola ( who has gone berserk with the anti Lin tweets) said that the interviewer was a former classmate of Lins. So great, objective journalistic work there. It's a fluff piece. Lin will try and spin that he is an innocent who wasn't wanted, and really wanted to return to NY, while Dolan is spinning it was a financial decision (it wasn't it was purely emotional). Both are lying, so don't get suckered by them, they're both in the wrong.
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7/18/2012  2:55 PM
smackeddog wrote:Oh and by the way, according to Isola ( who has gone berserk with the anti Lin tweets) said that the interviewer was a former classmate of Lins. So great, objective journalistic work there. It's a fluff piece. Lin will try and spin that he is an innocent who wasn't wanted, and really wanted to return to NY, while Dolan is spinning it was a financial decision (it wasn't it was purely emotional). Both are lying, so don't get suckered by them, they're both in the wrong.
one guy is wrong Dolan. Every player should get what they can get. It could always be your last contract. You can get traded anytime to some crap city you dont want to play in. Dolan made the team weaker and the future dimmer because he's a baby. Lin was doing what every player does. Thats the game. Dolan screwed us with his baby crap
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7/18/2012  2:57 PM
smackeddog wrote:

He clearly claimed in that article that he's not interested in money or endorsements, yet he dumped his old agent and replaced him with a really aggressive one who's speciality is in building endorsements. What is wrong with you in that you can't smell the BS? If he wants to go for the big bucks that's completely fine- its a once in a life time chance. But don't do it while you're lying that you don't care about money! Be honest.

He's not evil or anything, but he is lying and just as much to blame for this as Dolan.

He retained his former agent. So he has two agents and is paying both of them. At least that's what it said even in that SI article unless you have something different. Point that out to me though in a Lin-k.

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7/18/2012  3:04 PM
smackeddog wrote:Oh and by the way, according to Isola ( who has gone berserk with the anti Lin tweets) said that the interviewer was a former classmate of Lins. So great, objective journalistic work there. It's a fluff piece. Lin will try and spin that he is an innocent who wasn't wanted, and really wanted to return to NY, while Dolan is spinning it was a financial decision (it wasn't it was purely emotional). Both are lying, so don't get suckered by them, they're both in the wrong.

Isola is a toad. He loves jerking the chain of NY Fans more than anyone.

He also admitted he MADE UP his report that Lin had dinner with Knicks coach Kenny Atkinson after agreeing to the first deal in Houston. He just made it up.

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