mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The Heat were the best team in the NBA - what makes you think a guy who hadn't played in 5 weeks against NBA competition would have been any help? He would've gotten brutalized. Not because he "SUCKS LOL", because to play NBA playoffs basketball you have to be ready.

Saying anything else is empty macho BS said by guys who have never played sports at a high level. Disgraceful.

Not to mention Lin played hurt for weeks before shutting it down.

So why was there even discussion. It was a day to day decision if you remember clearly. It was obviously a very strong contemplation.

But I do agree that he woulda gotten brutalized just like the last time he (sort of) played against miami. Nobody said the kid is dumb.

The Heat were out to embarrass Lin and put an end to Linsanity. They did. They're very very good. As you've said in another thread, Lebron is so far ahead of Melo it's not even funny. Wade is a killer against the Knicks. Chalmers is alright, but it gets easier when you're playing alongside two top 5 NBA players. Wade isn't top 5 all the time anymore, but he's top 5 when he turns it on. That night he undeniably had it turned on. That was like when Pippen and Jordan used to try to embarrass guys - they often did.

Look, the Knicks are not gonna beat the Heat with or without Lin. I just think it might've been smart to hold onto a stud young PG who is gonna be 28yr old when Lebron is 34 and Wade is 36.

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The Heat were the best team in the NBA - what makes you think a guy who hadn't played in 5 weeks against NBA competition would have been any help? He would've gotten brutalized. Not because he "SUCKS LOL", because to play NBA playoffs basketball you have to be ready.

Saying anything else is empty macho BS said by guys who have never played sports at a high level. Disgraceful.

Not to mention Lin played hurt for weeks before shutting it down.

So why was there even discussion. It was a day to day decision if you remember clearly. It was obviously a very strong contemplation.

But I do agree that he woulda gotten brutalized just like the last time he (sort of) played against miami. Nobody said the kid is dumb.

As you've said in another thread, Lebron is so far ahead of Melo it's not even funny

That is not my exact quote, was it?

I just think that there is Lebron way up there and then there is everybody else a distant second. Melo is in the distant second group somewhere but Lebron is just a freak right now and completely unstoppable - the closest to Jordan domination (this past season) that I have seen.

Anyway, as much as you disparage the dissenters, I think that it was up to Lin to play and he carefully chose not to. That is my opinion - not macho bravado or whatever. You don't even remotely consider that? Is that being honest?

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The Heat were the best team in the NBA - what makes you think a guy who hadn't played in 5 weeks against NBA competition would have been any help? He would've gotten brutalized. Not because he "SUCKS LOL", because to play NBA playoffs basketball you have to be ready.

Saying anything else is empty macho BS said by guys who have never played sports at a high level. Disgraceful.

Not to mention Lin played hurt for weeks before shutting it down.

So why was there even discussion. It was a day to day decision if you remember clearly. It was obviously a very strong contemplation.

But I do agree that he woulda gotten brutalized just like the last time he (sort of) played against miami. Nobody said the kid is dumb.

As you've said in another thread, Lebron is so far ahead of Melo it's not even funny

That is not my exact quote, was it?

I just think that there is Lebron way up there and then there is everybody else a distant second. Melo is in the distant second group somewhere but Lebron is just a freak right now and completely unstoppable - the closest to Jordan domination (this past season) that I have seen.

Anyway, as much as you disparage the dissenters, I think that it was up to Lin to play and he carefully chose not to. That is my opinion - not macho bravado or whatever. You don't even remotely consider that? Is that being honest?

I don't think he should have and I certainly don't think it would've made a difference.

I was an advocate of the Knicks trying to alter their playoffs seeding to not have to play the Heat in the first round.

Even if Shump, Lin and Amar'e had been healthy all series, I don't think they would've won more than 2 games against the Heat. The Heat beat the Thunder in 5 games. They were really good.

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The Heat were the best team in the NBA - what makes you think a guy who hadn't played in 5 weeks against NBA competition would have been any help? He would've gotten brutalized. Not because he "SUCKS LOL", because to play NBA playoffs basketball you have to be ready.

Saying anything else is empty macho BS said by guys who have never played sports at a high level. Disgraceful.

Not to mention Lin played hurt for weeks before shutting it down.

So why was there even discussion. It was a day to day decision if you remember clearly. It was obviously a very strong contemplation.

But I do agree that he woulda gotten brutalized just like the last time he (sort of) played against miami. Nobody said the kid is dumb.

As you've said in another thread, Lebron is so far ahead of Melo it's not even funny

That is not my exact quote, was it?

I just think that there is Lebron way up there and then there is everybody else a distant second. Melo is in the distant second group somewhere but Lebron is just a freak right now and completely unstoppable - the closest to Jordan domination (this past season) that I have seen.

Anyway, as much as you disparage the dissenters, I think that it was up to Lin to play and he carefully chose not to. That is my opinion - not macho bravado or whatever. You don't even remotely consider that? Is that being honest?

I don't think he should have and I certainly don't think it would've made a difference.

I was an advocate of the Knicks trying to alter their playoffs seeding to not have to play the Heat in the first round.

Even if Shump, Lin and Amar'e had been healthy all series, I don't think they would've won more than 2 games against the Heat. The Heat beat the Thunder in 5 games. They were really good.

So if you are a huge underdog, whats the point of anybody playing?

Tyson was puking
Amare had one arm
BD was being wheeled up the court in a wheelchair
Bibby was our best PG for heaven sakes!!

But Mr Lin is too valuable to himself to play? How do you think that sat with his team?

Uh ... I say, not so good. But, who freakin cares cause they were too good anyway.

BD played in a wheelchair?

I forget, how did Amar'e hurt his hand?

Also everyone here is saying the Knicks went 18-6 (more like 12-5 but hey who's factorial?) without Lin and are so much better without Lin... isn't it for the best Lin didn't play?

I'm not sure how it works that the team is better without him but he's also a punk for not playing in the playoffs?

Which did you want? Be factorial

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Did I ever say the knicks are better without Lin?

I don't know. did you?

Now you are asking?

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Did I ever say the knicks are better without Lin?

I don't know. did you?

Now you are asking?

hey man, what do you think of the decision to give away our franchise point guard for free when the knicks could have match him to a contract that paid him $19M less guaranteed than Javale McGee who literally ran the wrong way on a basketball court after a rebound?

Who is this that you speak of?

VCoug wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The Heat were the best team in the NBA - what makes you think a guy who hadn't played in 5 weeks against NBA competition would have been any help? He would've gotten brutalized. Not because he "SUCKS LOL", because to play NBA playoffs basketball you have to be ready.

Saying anything else is empty macho BS said by guys who have never played sports at a high level. Disgraceful.

Not to mention Lin played hurt for weeks before shutting it down.

So why was there even discussion. It was a day to day decision if you remember clearly. It was obviously a very strong contemplation.

But I do agree that he woulda gotten brutalized just like the last time he (sort of) played against miami. Nobody said the kid is dumb.

As you've said in another thread, Lebron is so far ahead of Melo it's not even funny

That is not my exact quote, was it?

I just think that there is Lebron way up there and then there is everybody else a distant second. Melo is in the distant second group somewhere but Lebron is just a freak right now and completely unstoppable - the closest to Jordan domination (this past season) that I have seen.

Anyway, as much as you disparage the dissenters, I think that it was up to Lin to play and he carefully chose not to. That is my opinion - not macho bravado or whatever. You don't even remotely consider that? Is that being honest?

I don't think he should have and I certainly don't think it would've made a difference.

I was an advocate of the Knicks trying to alter their playoffs seeding to not have to play the Heat in the first round.

Even if Shump, Lin and Amar'e had been healthy all series, I don't think they would've won more than 2 games against the Heat. The Heat beat the Thunder in 5 games. They were really good.

So if you are a huge underdog, whats the point of anybody playing?

Tyson was puking
Amare had one arm
BD was being wheeled up the court in a wheelchair
Bibby was our best PG for heaven sakes!!

But Mr Lin is too valuable to himself to play? How do you think that sat with his team?

Uh ... I say, not so good. But, who freakin cares cause they were too good anyway.

Tyson had the flu and Amare had a lacerated hand after he punched a fire extinguisher. Neither of those conditions were going to be exacerbated or have long-term effects on their careers. Lin's injury on the other hand, required knee surgery and rushing him back could have had huge, negative consequences for the rest of his career, possibly even ending it. I can't believe that Knicks fans, who've lived through Bernard King ending his Knick career by blowing out his knee and Patrick Ewing's myriad knee problems, are saying we should have rushed back a promising young player to play in a meaningless Game 5 of a series that we clearly were going to lose anyway.

hey, maybe they knew something we didn't and we were prepared to let Lin walk for nothing. if that were the case, the knicks should have played him from Game 1 on.

also, they should have played him in Cleveland when Melo and Amar'e tanked against a lotto team and cost the Knicks the 6th seed.

mrKnickShot wrote:

VCoug wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:The Heat were the best team in the NBA - what makes you think a guy who hadn't played in 5 weeks against NBA competition would have been any help? He would've gotten brutalized. Not because he "SUCKS LOL", because to play NBA playoffs basketball you have to be ready.

Saying anything else is empty macho BS said by guys who have never played sports at a high level. Disgraceful.

Not to mention Lin played hurt for weeks before shutting it down.

So why was there even discussion. It was a day to day decision if you remember clearly. It was obviously a very strong contemplation.

But I do agree that he woulda gotten brutalized just like the last time he (sort of) played against miami. Nobody said the kid is dumb.

As you've said in another thread, Lebron is so far ahead of Melo it's not even funny

That is not my exact quote, was it?

I just think that there is Lebron way up there and then there is everybody else a distant second. Melo is in the distant second group somewhere but Lebron is just a freak right now and completely unstoppable - the closest to Jordan domination (this past season) that I have seen.

Anyway, as much as you disparage the dissenters, I think that it was up to Lin to play and he carefully chose not to. That is my opinion - not macho bravado or whatever. You don't even remotely consider that? Is that being honest?

I don't think he should have and I certainly don't think it would've made a difference.

I was an advocate of the Knicks trying to alter their playoffs seeding to not have to play the Heat in the first round.

Even if Shump, Lin and Amar'e had been healthy all series, I don't think they would've won more than 2 games against the Heat. The Heat beat the Thunder in 5 games. They were really good.

So if you are a huge underdog, whats the point of anybody playing?

Tyson was puking
Amare had one arm
BD was being wheeled up the court in a wheelchair
Bibby was our best PG for heaven sakes!!

But Mr Lin is too valuable to himself to play? How do you think that sat with his team?

Uh ... I say, not so good. But, who freakin cares cause they were too good anyway.

Lin's injury on the other hand, required knee surgery and rushing him back could have had huge, negative consequences for the rest of his career,

Are you a doctor? How did you come by this info? How come it was even being contemplated?

Blinder are convenient when you need blinders

How did I come by what info? That Lin had a torn meniscus and had knee surgery? Sorry, but clearly the only people with blinders are the ones shouting about 85% and Lin should have come back. I'd like to see one of you guys refute what I claimed in my comment.

mrKnickShot wrote:WHY WAS IT STRONGLY CONSIDERED AND A DAY TO DAY DECISION?

It destroys your argument.

What? No, it doesn't. Just because it was "strongly" considered and a day to day decision doesn't disprove anything I said. The reason it was a day to day decision was because he wasn't absolutely ready to come back. So, the team doctors and Lin had to weigh the potential benefits, having Lin play in 1 playoff game when we were already down 3-1, against potential risks, Lin re-injuring his knee, possibly irreparably.

crzymdups wrote:Derrick Rose was strongly considered a day to day decision and played and blew out his knee and may have damaged his career. Was it worth it? I guess at least the fans can say DRose is TOUGH.

At least then Rose was playing at the beginning of the playoffs and the Bulls had a chance to win a championship. We're talking about bringing Lin back for game 5, after we were already down 3-1. What purpose would that serve? Even if we won that game we weren't going to win the series