Me & Smokey

Bippity10 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Everything has a price Bip.

What price do you consider too much? 50 million over 3 years? Your price and their price could be a bit different.

Financial Analysts seem to strongly feel that it was a mistake for Dolan to match and that it would show great discipline and restraint if he did not.

Me as a fan that does not care about his or MSG's money was really hoping that they match.

He's obviously overpaid. But again, we just spent the better part of a decade overpaying non assets like Weatherspoon and Jeffries and Curry and Shandon and Eisley etc. Why this moment? We would have been able to trade that contract in year 3 to someone looking for cap relief if we had to. I'm still not sure I completely understand why that year 3 is such an issue.

It's personally for the knicks, no matter how you slice it. plus too many years of signing guy's on potential has clouded ppls judgment

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Everything has a price Bip.

What price do you consider too much? 50 million over 3 years? Your price and their price could be a bit different.

Financial Analysts seem to strongly feel that it was a mistake for Dolan to match and that it would show great discipline and restraint if he did not.

Me as a fan that does not care about his or MSG's money was really hoping that they match.

Jesus are you clowns dense or something. For the final time it's NOT ABOUT THE LUXURY TAX! Read this and get a clue.

One point the Knicks have made is they don’t want to take a tax hit of $43 million or so in the last year of Lin’s deal. But the CBA contains a stretch provision clause that allows a team to waive a player with an odorous contract and spread the remaining years out over twice the number of years, plus one.

So say the Knicks waive Lin after he completes two years of the 3-year, $25.1 million deal with $14.9 in that third year. They could stretch the third year payment over three years (one year, times two, plus one) and the salary would only cost $5 million against the Knicks cap. The luxury tax would them also be in line.

And if after two years the Knicks determine Lin is worth every penny, they could keep him and perhaps use the provision on a different player. Lin’s contract, of course, would stay the same.

We know about the stretch provision and I am sure the clowns at msg are aware of it too.

And anyways, who the hell are you? Syniko?

Whats with all the clown stuff?

What a clown

If you know about the stretch provision then stop talking about financial analysts as if this was a financial decision.
If you don't see the connection and why I pointed out your error then you truly are dense.

Dense? Hahahaha - what a dope.

This is not a financial decision and YOU know and understand better than they do.

NOW THATS RICH!!

Keep talkin and calling people clown.

YOU ARE A CLOWN.

OK

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Everything has a price Bip.

What price do you consider too much? 50 million over 3 years? Your price and their price could be a bit different.

Financial Analysts seem to strongly feel that it was a mistake for Dolan to match and that it would show great discipline and restraint if he did not.

Me as a fan that does not care about his or MSG's money was really hoping that they match.

Jesus are you clowns dense or something. For the final time it's NOT ABOUT THE LUXURY TAX! Read this and get a clue.

One point the Knicks have made is they don’t want to take a tax hit of $43 million or so in the last year of Lin’s deal. But the CBA contains a stretch provision clause that allows a team to waive a player with an odorous contract and spread the remaining years out over twice the number of years, plus one.

So say the Knicks waive Lin after he completes two years of the 3-year, $25.1 million deal with $14.9 in that third year. They could stretch the third year payment over three years (one year, times two, plus one) and the salary would only cost $5 million against the Knicks cap. The luxury tax would them also be in line.

And if after two years the Knicks determine Lin is worth every penny, they could keep him and perhaps use the provision on a different player. Lin’s contract, of course, would stay the same.

We know about the stretch provision and I am sure the clowns at msg are aware of it too.

And anyways, who the hell are you? Syniko?

Whats with all the clown stuff?

What a clown

If you know about the stretch provision then stop talking about financial analysts as if this was a financial decision.
If you don't see the connection and why I pointed out your error then you truly are dense.

Dense? Hahahaha - what a dope.

This is not a financial decision and YOU know and understand better than they do.

NOW THATS RICH!!

Keep talkin and calling people clown.

YOU ARE A CLOWN.

This man, better come to play

IrishKnickFan wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Everything has a price Bip.

What price do you consider too much? 50 million over 3 years? Your price and their price could be a bit different.

Financial Analysts seem to strongly feel that it was a mistake for Dolan to match and that it would show great discipline and restraint if he did not.

Me as a fan that does not care about his or MSG's money was really hoping that they match.

Jesus are you clowns dense or something. For the final time it's NOT ABOUT THE LUXURY TAX! Read this and get a clue.

One point the Knicks have made is they don’t want to take a tax hit of $43 million or so in the last year of Lin’s deal. But the CBA contains a stretch provision clause that allows a team to waive a player with an odorous contract and spread the remaining years out over twice the number of years, plus one.

So say the Knicks waive Lin after he completes two years of the 3-year, $25.1 million deal with $14.9 in that third year. They could stretch the third year payment over three years (one year, times two, plus one) and the salary would only cost $5 million against the Knicks cap. The luxury tax would them also be in line.

And if after two years the Knicks determine Lin is worth every penny, they could keep him and perhaps use the provision on a different player. Lin’s contract, of course, would stay the same.

We know about the stretch provision and I am sure the clowns at msg are aware of it too.

And anyways, who the hell are you? Syniko?

Whats with all the clown stuff?

What a clown

If you know about the stretch provision then stop talking about financial analysts as if this was a financial decision.
If you don't see the connection and why I pointed out your error then you truly are dense.

Dense? Hahahaha - what a dope.

This is not a financial decision and YOU know and understand better than they do.

NOW THATS RICH!!

Keep talkin and calling people clown.

YOU ARE A CLOWN.

mr.knickshot is actually a good fan who tell is like it is

He may be a good fan but he can't even follow the discussion in a logical fashion. Good fans are what Dolan wants since
they just follow blindly as he screws them over and over again.

BasketballJones wrote:Maybe we could wait until the Knicks actually announce their decision before we FREAK OUT. Or would that be illogical?

This thread is strictly hypothetical

Bippity10 wrote:Does anyeone get the point of this thread? Your front office is once again following the pattern of pissing away young assets. What are we getting in return?Felton, KT? Camby and Kidd? I love the first 3 and really don't have a problem with the 4th guy but..............Does this group get you closer to beating the Thunder and the Heat? If yes, great. If not, how are you improving?

Well trading away young assets bothers me, however, we have a 3 year window and the greeks were not really gonna help us in this window.

Could they have been traded for better assets? Maybe - but I don't know since I am not a GM negotiating deals.

I am just another Open Source Capologist from the UK

mrKnickShot wrote:

BasketballJones wrote:Maybe we could wait until the Knicks actually announce their decision before we FREAK OUT. Or would that be illogical?

Clown move.

Just ask FeltonSyniko

Why don't you answer my question. Oh yea you're a CLOWN!