smackeddog wrote:I'm not going to take this Lin thing out on Felton- he loved playing here and wanted to come back despite the way we treated him. And while he played badly last year, once he got the coach fired, he actually played quite well- Last 10 games, 14.2pts 46% FG, 42% 3pt! 4 reb, 7.7assists.

Last 10 games that didnt matter on a depleted lottery team. talk about small sample size! Look I dont mean to dish Felton loved him when he was her under dantoni but im trying to look at the big picture and the future of.thus team.

crzymdups wrote:So the Knicks are losing their best point guard, third leading scorer in Lin. They're losing one of their most versatile defenders in Jeffries. They lost their plus/minus leader Landry Fields.

All of those guys could have been retained if they'd approached them with reasonable contracts on July 1st.

But, nope, they had to get used by Steve Nash who said "NY was never really an option." All that cost us was Fields and pissed off Lin who then decided he wanted to go to Houston for real.

This is one of the most horribly managed off-seasons I've ever seen.

Lin, Fields and Jeffries were three of the best players on the team last year and some of the only reasons the team made the playoffs along with Melo, Tyson and Shumpert.

So the Knicks essentially gave up half of their functional rotation, overpaid Novak, retained JR Smith (they'll have to overpay him next off-season), downgraded PG, signed two 40yr old backups... and traded like five second round picks in the process if you count this year's... Shump is out for half the season to boot.

oh, yeah, Amar'e Stoudemire is now the longest tenured Knick and he punched a fire extinguisher thus ruining any chance of being competitive against the Heat.

Do people think that the record next year will be better winning %?

I agree with your assessment. Steve Nash punked the Knicks again. I put it out there a while ago.

crzymdups wrote:So the Knicks are losing their best point guard, third leading scorer in Lin. They're losing one of their most versatile defenders in Jeffries. They lost their plus/minus leader Landry Fields.

All of those guys could have been retained if they'd approached them with reasonable contracts on July 1st.

But, nope, they had to get used by Steve Nash who said "NY was never really an option." All that cost us was Fields and pissed off Lin who then decided he wanted to go to Houston for real.

This is one of the most horribly managed off-seasons I've ever seen.

Lin, Fields and Jeffries were three of the best players on the team last year and some of the only reasons the team made the playoffs along with Melo, Tyson and Shumpert.

So the Knicks essentially gave up half of their functional rotation, overpaid Novak, retained JR Smith (they'll have to overpay him next off-season), downgraded PG, signed two 40yr old backups... and traded like five second round picks in the process if you count this year's... Shump is out for half the season to boot.

oh, yeah, Amar'e Stoudemire is now the longest tenured Knick and he punched a fire extinguisher thus ruining any chance of being competitive against the Heat.

Do people think that the record next year will be better winning %?

Vmart wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I'm not going to take this Lin thing out on Felton- he loved playing here and wanted to come back despite the way we treated him. And while he played badly last year, once he got the coach fired, he actually played quite well- Last 10 games, 14.2pts 46% FG, 42% 3pt! 4 reb, 7.7assists.

Problem with Felton is he sucks and we can't expect the MDA Felton because he couldn't do it in other systems.

I made a post that when the Knicks fired D'Antoni they'd lose Lin, Novak, Fields, Jeffries and others. People mocked me. I guess I only got 3 out of 4.

crzymdups wrote:So the Knicks are losing their best point guard, third leading scorer in Lin. They're losing one of their most versatile defenders in Jeffries. They lost their plus/minus leader Landry Fields.

All of those guys could have been retained if they'd approached them with reasonable contracts on July 1st.

But, nope, they had to get used by Steve Nash who said "NY was never really an option." All that cost us was Fields and pissed off Lin who then decided he wanted to go to Houston for real.

This is one of the most horribly managed off-seasons I've ever seen.

Lin, Fields and Jeffries were three of the best players on the team last year and some of the only reasons the team made the playoffs along with Melo, Tyson and Shumpert.

So the Knicks essentially gave up half of their functional rotation, overpaid Novak, retained JR Smith (they'll have to overpay him next off-season), downgraded PG, signed two 40yr old backups... and traded like five second round picks in the process if you count this year's... Shump is out for half the season to boot.

oh, yeah, Amar'e Stoudemire is now the longest tenured Knick and he punched a fire extinguisher thus ruining any chance of being competitive against the Heat.

Do people think that the record next year will be better winning %?

Camby,Kidd, Felton, Kurt Thomas >>> JJ, Fields, Jorts and Gadzuric.

Fields is horrible dude. Talk about +- all you want. He sucks.

And I'm not conceding that Lin is gone. People need to stop freaking out and look at our entire roster.

Thank you for bringing some sanity Briggs.

crzymdups wrote:I wonder if Kidd would've signed here if he knew the Knicks were gonna let Jeremy Lin walk?

crzymdups wrote:

RonRon wrote:i am still praying it is smoke, hoping Knicks are using the media and the Felton acquisition to let Houston think they have Lin and make moves like we did before they actually have him.

In about 30 hours, we will no for sure, and whether how many people, will officially give up on this organization....

If we can acquire a penetrate PG like Barea, I believe he can bring the same some of the things that Lin can do, at a cheaper price, but we cannot.....

After this off-season, Lin or no Lin, the Knicks are essentially locked into this roster. We'll be over the tax limit, meaning no sign and trades (again this is with or without Lin) and we've traded most draft picks.

Get ready for 3yrs of wondering when Kidd and Camby will be off the injured reserve.

Get ready for all sorts of horrible boring Isiah era crap.

I actually accidentally called Melo "Marbury" today. We're headed towards that same crap.

crzymdups wrote:

MSG3 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:So the Knicks are losing their best point guard, third leading scorer in Lin. They're losing one of their most versatile defenders in Jeffries. They lost their plus/minus leader Landry Fields.

All of those guys could have been retained if they'd approached them with reasonable contracts on July 1st.

But, nope, they had to get used by Steve Nash who said "NY was never really an option." All that cost us was Fields and pissed off Lin who then decided he wanted to go to Houston for real.

This is one of the most horribly managed off-seasons I've ever seen.

Lin, Fields and Jeffries were three of the best players on the team last year and some of the only reasons the team made the playoffs along with Melo, Tyson and Shumpert.

So the Knicks essentially gave up half of their functional rotation, overpaid Novak, retained JR Smith (they'll have to overpay him next off-season), downgraded PG, signed two 40yr old backups... and traded like five second round picks in the process if you count this year's... Shump is out for half the season to boot.

oh, yeah, Amar'e Stoudemire is now the longest tenured Knick and he punched a fire extinguisher thus ruining any chance of being competitive against the Heat.

Do people think that the record next year will be better winning %?

Camby,Kidd, Felton, Kurt Thomas >>> JJ, Fields, Jorts and Gadzuric.

Fields is horrible dude. Talk about +- all you want. He sucks.

And I'm not conceding that Lin is gone. People need to stop freaking out and look at our entire roster.

You forgot to add Lin in the gone pile.

You're just hoping against hope that all the sources who said the Knicks were acquiring Felton and cutting Lin loose were only right about the Felton part of that report?

It makes no sense. Lin is gone.

I'll admit I'd be shocked if Lin isnt matched.

Even still, I like our roster without him. Much better with him because he's a good player with potential to be great. But without him I still like our roster.