AnubisADL wrote:Not matching Lin won't kill us. Signing Lin to a bad deal will.

Agreed. +1

Bonn1997 wrote:

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Not matching Lin won't kill us. Signing Lin to a bad deal will.

Agreed. +1

A 5 year, $100 mil Amare-esque contract is a bad deal. 3 year $25 mil just means you're underpaid by Knicks' standards

It nowhere close to the bad deals we gave Melo and Amare.

JamesLin wrote:Is it just me or most of the posters have no sense of money value? I keep reading dumping Jeremy, Jeremy Lin is bad, ungrateful, will not perform, etc, etc. But what did you learn about Asians in Asia spending MILLIONS and MILLIONS of money to watch him, buy Knicks products featuring Lin and don't forget the jerseys he sold MORE THAN KOBE BRYANT?

Yes, there's a very likelihood he won't be a legit starter that demands 25 million dollars in 3 years, but whichever team acquires him, will make 25 million dollars back within a few months. Do the math and see why ANYONE will get rid of him without getting another star that can command more money. Is it because he's Asian? Seriously. I'm not even joking. Are you all that clueless? Owners are here to make money, and Jeremy Lin is practically guaranteed that. Maybe you just think Jimmy Dolan is just that dumb, and in that case, I totally understand. Otherwise please lecture me about how Jeremy Lin will NOT make any money, and please don't say we can get better player to get championships. Owners like championships, but owners love money more, period. If you want to argue with me on that last statement, then I strongly suggest you get a dna test and see if your mom and dad are related.

i think every poster here wants jeremy back.

BUT:

a) it kinda seems like Lin doesn't want to come back. why else would his team work with Morey on a SECOND offer that would be more likely to deter the knicks? word is lin's team leaked the details of the first offer and also that the knicks would match it. so his team used that leverage to get a second offer.

b) in the third season, the Knicks will face the repeater tax, which essentially makes committing to Lin's $15M salary in that year a $57M investment in YEAR THREE ALONE.

a) Who cares if Jeremy Lin choose to go to Houston. That's not the issue I'm talking about. I'm talking about why would Jimmy Dolan not sign him? If Jeremy Lin chooses to let Rockets make lots of money this coming season, that's his choice. It has nothing to do with Jimmy Dolan letting him go. Two completely different topics.

b) In the third season... Let's start with first 2 seasons.. 10 million for first 2 seasons. I think Jeremy Lin can triple that alone for the Knicks just on product sales. Plus with all the signed contracts, Knicks are already in the penalties in 3rd year so Lin won't make a huge difference on luxury taxes. At least not huge enough to discount the money he'll be bringing in.

crzymdups wrote:

JamesLin wrote:1. Most of the posters here are against having Jeremy Lin back, especially now that Houston made that ridiculous offer just to see Knicks matching it.

a) Who cares if Jeremy Lin choose to go to Houston. That's not the issue I'm talking about. I'm talking about why would Jimmy Dolan not sign him? If Jeremy Lin chooses to let Rockets make lots of money this coming season, that's his choice. It has nothing to do with Jimmy Dolan letting him go. Two completely different topics.

b) In the third season... Let's start with first 2 seasons.. 10 million for first 2 seasons. I think Jeremy Lin can triple that alone for the Knicks just on product sales. Plus with all the signed contracts, Knicks are already in the penalties in 3rd year so Lin won't make a huge difference on luxury taxes. At least not huge enough to discount the money he'll be bringing in.

a) if you don't think Dolan or Knicks management paid attention to the fact that Lin went BACK to Houston to get a better offer sheet when it seemed like the Knicks would match...

b) i think the garden front office has a little better understanding what the pros and cons financially of keeping lin are. for one thing, i believe "product sales" like jersey sales are distributed equally to teams around the league. if lin is worth $500 million, the knicks will likely sign him.

This is something I am surprised isn't getting a lot of play. The guy went back to negotiate a better deal. He may have wanted out. He may have wanted to play in Houston because his feeling got hurt. He is a smart guy and knows what that new contract would mean for the Knicks. Who am I kidding Lin is Mr. Humble. He is about the good of the game. HE sacrifices his body for the team and comes back to help the team in the playoffs. He likes to challenge himself by competing against the best on the U.S. Select team.

Let's get real. It ok that he didn't take those risks and went after the high money but I find it interesting how people say Melo held the Knicks hostage but he did not make the deal. On the other hand Lin made this deal and had a choice. Just like JR had a choice to take less money to play for your beloved but he is a knucklehead me first player so that doesn't count. Blame management all you want if they do not match but LIn deserves most of the blame.

I think it's one if those "prove a point" things.....knicks aren't just about making money off some kid. They have money and found a point guard that is proven to play well for the knicks in the past.....

Man Grunwald is a beast

crzymdups wrote:

JamesLin wrote:Is it just me or most of the posters have no sense of money value? I keep reading dumping Jeremy, Jeremy Lin is bad, ungrateful, will not perform, etc, etc. But what did you learn about Asians in Asia spending MILLIONS and MILLIONS of money to watch him, buy Knicks products featuring Lin and don't forget the jerseys he sold MORE THAN KOBE BRYANT?

Yes, there's a very likelihood he won't be a legit starter that demands 25 million dollars in 3 years, but whichever team acquires him, will make 25 million dollars back within a few months. Do the math and see why ANYONE will get rid of him without getting another star that can command more money. Is it because he's Asian? Seriously. I'm not even joking. Are you all that clueless? Owners are here to make money, and Jeremy Lin is practically guaranteed that. Maybe you just think Jimmy Dolan is just that dumb, and in that case, I totally understand. Otherwise please lecture me about how Jeremy Lin will NOT make any money, and please don't say we can get better player to get championships. Owners like championships, but owners love money more, period. If you want to argue with me on that last statement, then I strongly suggest you get a dna test and see if your mom and dad are related.

i think every poster here wants jeremy back.

BUT:

a) it kinda seems like Lin doesn't want to come back. why else would his team work with Morey on a SECOND offer that would be more likely to deter the knicks? word is lin's team leaked the details of the first offer and also that the knicks would match it. so his team used that leverage to get a second offer.

b) in the third season, the Knicks will face the repeater tax, which essentially makes committing to Lin's $15M salary in that year a $57M investment in YEAR THREE ALONE.

This is silly. I go back all day if it meant an extra $5m. Why is that anti-Knick move. The kid just wants the best deal he can get.